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EPISODE · Jan 16, 2026 · 36 MIN

AI GTM WTF 14 | What Founders Get Wrong About Outbound Before PMF

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We need to hire an SDR. No. You don't.On Today's episode of AI GTM, I sat down with John Karsant (bootstrapped to 60 employees, runs one of the top appointment setting agencies LevelUp Leads) and he didn't hold back on what founders get wrong about GTM.The brutal truth? Most founders say they have a "GTM problem" when they really have a judgment problem.Here's what we covered:→ Why you should close your first 10-20 customers yourself (not hire sales) → The 3 buckets where agencies fail (and why most won't tell you) → Why copying SaaS playbooks in non-tech industries is financial suicide → How plumbers taught us more about GTM than any LinkedIn guru → Why 70-80% of John's agency is still manual (even with all the AI hype) → The real cost of "moving fast" vs moving smart in early GTMThe uncomfortable reality: Speed beats perfection, but only if you actually know who you're selling to and where they hang out.Most founders don't.This isn't theory. This is what actually works when you're not a venture-backed SaaS company with a $50M runway.Watch the full episode on YT - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxCIikGaAC4&t=312sIf you're a non-tech founder, early-stage CEO, or GTM leader tired of advice that only works in slides, this one's for you.#sales #sdr #GTM

We need to hire an SDR. No. You don't.On Today's episode of AI GTM, I sat down with John Karsant (bootstrapped to 60 employees, runs one of the top appointment setting agencies LevelUp Leads) and he didn't hold back on what founders get wrong about GTM.The brutal truth? Most founders say they have a "GTM problem" when they really have a judgment problem.Here's what we covered:→ Why you should close your first 10-20 customers yourself (not hire sales) → The 3 buckets where agencies fail (and why most won't tell you) → Why copying SaaS playbooks in non-tech industries is financial suicide → How plumbers taught us more about GTM than any LinkedIn guru → Why 70-80% of John's agency is still manual (even with all the AI hype) → The real cost of "moving fast" vs moving smart in early GTMThe uncomfortable reality: Speed beats perfection, but only if you actually know who you're selling to and where they hang out.Most founders don't.This isn't theory. This is what actually works when you're not a venture-backed SaaS company with a $50M runway.Watch the full episode on YT - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxCIikGaAC4&t=312sIf you're a non-tech founder, early-stage CEO, or GTM leader tired of advice that only works in slides, this one's for you.#sales #sdr #GTM

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