AI in AppSec: The Paradigm Shift with Principal Security Engineer | Ft. Brad Geesaman | Ep. 89

In this groundbreaking episode of the ScaleToZero podcast, we sit down with Brad Geesaman, a Principal Security Engineer, to explore the revolutionary impact of Agentic AI on Application Security. From the inspiration behind this cutting-edge field to the practicalities of building AI-powered solutions, we cover it all.This episode is a must-listen for CISOs, Security Engineers, CTOs, and anyone looking to understand how AI is redefining the future of AppSec.Transcript: https://www.scaletozero.com/episodes/ai-in-appsec-the-paradigm-shift-with-brad-geesaman/Brad: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradgeesaman/00:00 Teaser and Introduction04:00 Inspiration to focus on Application Security using AgenticAI05:56 Understanding AgenticAI08:52 Agentic AI versus Traditional AI12:44 Paradigm shift of secure coding with the change of AI15:28 Importance of tool integration and standardization of AgenticAI for AppSec18:00 Standardization of Agent SDKs or NCPs20:22 Using AI to secure AI23:12 Are AI systems reliable considering their nondeterminism25:15 Considerations for adopting AI for AppSec29:54 Impact of AI on organizational structure for security32:27 Elements of AppSec with the least AI benefits36:10 What is Reaperbot42:42 Advantages and disadvantages of testing methods of Reaperbot45:00 Vision for Reaperbot in the near future48:00 Building trust within teams with the rise in these decision-making agents52:12 Recommendations for operations teams to avoid vulnerabilities or misconfiguration54:58 Considerations for the operations team when using AI systems for security purposes01:00:02 Summary01:01:05 Learning recommendations