EPISODE · Nov 12, 2025 · 39 MIN
AI is fueling a stock market boom but taking jobs
from Full Signal · host Phil Rosen
Kevin Gordon is the head of macro research and strategy at Charles Schwab's Center for Financial Research. He joined Phil Rosen on Full Signal to discuss the top-heavy bull market, comparisons to the dot-com bubble, the K-shaped economy, signals from alternative economic data, and more.Subscribe to Opening Bell Daily: https://www.openingbelldailynews.com/Follow Phil on X: https://x.com/philrosennFollow Phil on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philrosen/Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/vxdPVSIo_HETIMESTAMPS: 0:00 - Intro0:27 - Concentration in stock market3:33 - Top-heavy market as 'new normal'5:40 - AI vs. dot-com bubble9:43 - AI driving layoffs13:46 - White-collar recession17:12 - How Kevin uses AI at Schwab18:32 - Alternative job market data21:24 - Labor market cycles23:27 - Economists have been wrong all year26:08 - Vibecession vs. vibepression29:00 - K-shaped economy33:36 - Fed rate cuts36:13 - Where stocks go in 2026 #podcast #investing #markets #macro #stocks #bitcoin #fed
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