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EPISODE · Jun 16, 2026 · 53 MIN

AI Jobs, Liquid Software & Human Flourishing with Jeff Abbott

from Modem Futura · host Sean Leahy, Andrew Maynard, Jeffrey Abbott

School's out, the studio's packed into boxes, and Modem Futura is officially on summer roadshow — broadcasting from Andrew's home studio with returning guest Jeff Abbott, founding partner at Blitzscaling Ventures, founder of AI Salon, and Andrew's co-author on AI and the Art of Being Human. One year on from writing the book, the question at its heart — what does it mean to be human when AI can mirror so much of what we do? — has only grown louder, from boardrooms to commencement ceremonies where graduates are now booing the mention of AI. Sean, Andrew, and Jeff sit with that tension: a generation feeling like AI is happening to them, alongside builders doing things that seemed impossible three years ago. From inside the venture world, Jeff offers a candid tour of the new gold rush — why there are almost no technical moats left, what happens when the model beneath your startup shifts overnight, and why software itself is going liquid, spun up for a single task and discarded. Along the way: the plumber who no longer needs an office manager, the rise of the one-person unicorn, the minimum viable human team, and a question Jeff turns back on his hosts — what would an investment framework for human flourishing actually look like? Beneath the vibe coding and the venture math sits a stubbornly human truth the trio keeps circling back to: judgment, trust, and relationships remain the parts of the iceberg AI can't reach. Every business, it turns out, is still a human business. -----Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.eduSubscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFuturaFollow us on Instagram: @ModemFuturaHost Bios:Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU BioSean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU BioAndrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.-----

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Venture capitalist Jeff Abbott (Blitzscaling Ventures, AI Salon, co-author of AI and the Art of Being Human) joins Sean and Andrew to unpack the AI gold rush — from vibe coding and liquid software to one-person unicorns — and why judgment, trust, and relationships still make every business a human business.

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