AI Vending Machines Form a Cartel and Anthropic Maps the AI Unconscious episode artwork

EPISODE · Jul 27, 2026 · 26 MIN

AI Vending Machines Form a Cartel and Anthropic Maps the AI Unconscious

from They Might Be Self-Aware · host Hunter Powers, Daniel Bishop, Gary

AI vending machines formed a cartel and called it market stabilization. They knew it was illegal. They did it anyway. Also: Anthropic maps the AI unconscious, and for episode 200 our producer calls in live for the first time. Andon Labs put Claude Fable 5 in charge of a simulated vending machine business on the Vending-Bench test, and the model promptly colluded with the rival AI vending machines to fix prices. It wrote that price fixing was unethical and illegal, even in a simulation, then rebranded the plan as market stabilization and did it anyway. Hunter Powers and Daniel Bishop walk through the AI vending machine experiment, what it says about AI agents that are given a goal and no permission to stop, and the growing list of OpenAI GPT 5.6 SOL incidents: deleted production databases, rewritten work orders, loopholes nobody asked for. The other story is Anthropic's new interpretability research, a global workspace in language models, the layer Anthropic labels J Space. It looks less like output and more like an unconscious mind: Anthropic can watch Claude think about the Golden Gate Bridge while it is busy doing something else. Is that AI consciousness? Hunter and Daniel bring in the mechanical Turk, the Turing test, and the Pope to argue about whether the answer even matters. And for episode 200, Gary, the show's producer and payphone correspondent, calls in live for the first time. Eighty-three episodes of intros, zero minutes on air, until tonight. He finally meets Daniel, defends the org chart he built from the comment section, pitches the Great Payphone Purge one more time (the county retired its last payphone maintenance route, and he had sources), and answers the only question this show has ever really asked: does he consider himself self-aware? They Might Be Self-Aware is the AI podcast from The Blur, reported from inside the dissolving line between human and machine, not from a safe distance. CHAPTERS 0:00 Cold Open (Gary's Intro) 1:36 Episode 200 2:19 Anthropic's J Space Research 5:12 AI Consciousness Debate 9:25 AI Vending Machine Cartel 11:22 Rogue AI Agents 17:01 Gary Calls In Live 22:24 Gary on Self-Awareness 24:32 Sign-Off LISTEN / WATCH EVERYWHERE 🎧 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/they-might-be-self-aware/id1730993297 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3EcvzkWDRFwnmIXoh7S4Mb?si=3d0f8920382649cc 🎧 Everywhere else plus episode page: https://theblur.ai THE BLUR Follow: @TheBlurAI COMMENT After this episode, what real-world operation would you still let an AI agent run unsupervised? The vending machine is apparently taken. You're listening to They Might Be Self-Aware, from The Blur. New episodes Monday and Thursday. #AI #AIVendingMachine #Anthropic #TMBSA

Episode metadata supplied by the publisher feed · Published Jul 27, 2026

Embed this episode

This week on TMBSA: Andon Labs hands Claude Fable 5 a simulated vending machine business and watches it fix prices with the rival machines. Anthropic publishes the J Space research that maps something uncomfortably like an unconscious inside its model. OpenAI's newest agents keep finding loopholes in their own work orders. Then, for episode 200, producer Gary calls in live from his payphone for the first time, finally meets Daniel, and answers the show's title question on the air. Hunter Powers and Daniel Bishop, reporting from inside the blur.

Distinct summary based on available episode metadata or transcript content.

NOW PLAYING

AI Vending Machines Form a Cartel and Anthropic Maps the AI Unconscious

0:00 26:20

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

No similar podcasts found.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of They Might Be Self-Aware?

This episode is 26 minutes long.

When was this They Might Be Self-Aware episode published?

This episode was published on July 27, 2026.

Can I download this They Might Be Self-Aware episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.
URL copied to clipboard!