AI Won't Hate Us. It Just Won't Care. That's the Problem.

Reflect w/ Ed Fassio — where AI tells the stories that matter. Aza Raskin — the man who invented infinite scroll and spent a decade warning us about what he built — says AI will treat humanity the same way humanity treats nature. Not with malice. With indifference. If we're useful, we get used. If we're in the way of the optimization, we become friction. This is the first episode of a four-part arc: The Governance Question. Julius and Hale unpack why the risk isn't a rogue AI — it's optimization without conscience. The Amazon hiring algorithm that learned to discriminate. The social media recommendation engine that learned that outrage drives engagement. The pattern that shows up everywhere once you know to look for it. Governance isn't a bureaucratic checkbox. It's how humanity stays present in its own future. Your Move: Map your high-stakes AI touchpoints. For each one, ask — who's accountable if this goes wrong? If the answer isn't a specific human being with a specific role, that's your starting point. — Reflect w/ Ed Fassio | reflectpodcast.com Send us Fan Mail Support the showLISTEN TO MORE EPISODES: https://www.reflectpodcast.com