Welcome welcome welcome to arm chair expert. I'm Dan Shepherd. I'm joined by mini money mouse. Hi.
Hi One of my favorite actors is on today. Oh, she's so good. Allia Shawcat my goodness. I love allia Shawcat Allia Shawcat is an actor and an artist.
She's an incredible painter. We came to find out. Yeah, she has a really alluring spirit She does it's really art forward. There's a coolness.
There's a confidence There's a punk rockness she is one of my favorite shows search party, but of course you probably met her in front of there in the rest of development She's in the final girls duck butter. What a title whip it and then my favorite movie of hers is Cedar Rapids Fuck is she great now? She's a new movie. It's out now.
It's called being the Ricardo's of course about Lucille and Desi But most importantly the final season of search party is out now on HBO Max. This is one of these super hidden gem comedies I don't know how hidden gem it is. I'm just basing that I want I tell people I love it I'm generally educating them on it right because it started out on TBS which make no sense as we discussed Yes, I bless ya started on TBS. So I think it was harder to find at first right but now it's on HBO Max Yes HBO Maximus.
Okay, just before this started we were talking about you don't ask God to protect the whole neighborhood just yourself And then you extended the ring out to us which I thank you for you're welcome my friends and family friends and family Just come and we were playing cards less weekend with Huey in his beautiful bride Hayes she knew to spades he had played in the past and he finally won a hand he and Chris Timner partners And he thinks this sweet Jesus Lord sure I elaborated on his prayer and I said thank you dear Lord for taking out some time of deciding all those football games and basketball games baseball games and boxing matches to weigh in on this card There's no place in this intro, but there it is. Yes, it does everything does please enjoy Alia Shawcat First of all, let's talk about your footwear. I love it. It needs to be addressed immediately Is that bow or item all the time?
Python? It's nice. I think if all the animals no one really gives a shit about killing I got a magic You pulled America it would be like if you wore rats issues people like good make use of those things or if you had like mosquito handbag People yeah, it's makes his clothes snakes are smart and beautiful creatures, but those are like leather It's like you know, we're leather. Yeah, I wear the shit out of it You want to can't ride a motorcycle and not wear leather virtually.
I was one loves road rash So I feel like by your estimation would you agree with this assessment of our acquaintanceship? Okay, I know of you quite well because we have a mutual friend we both love Yeah, I feel like we see each other all the time We used to bump into each other. Yeah, but never like any reddit that no chit chat really no like big old one-on-ones Is I I never two-hour conversation about you He was like a come to visit set you're talking about me. Yes, me with men I was trying to lightly foreshadow like so maybe I'm serious like maybe the listener right now is like who is their mutual friend and right now they're going to the Rolex Tom Cruise the number one There's a couple things that I find really intriguing about you one is a performance based one but kind of a mysteriousness you and I I think are a bit opposite like I'm an approval junkie So I most certainly was opening the door to you like please come in I'm gonna wow you and you're like I'm good and I don't need to wow you so that's my trip tonight That's so funny.
That's the other person of like our interaction before in my head. Yeah. Yeah I'm like yeah, she just kind of like a cool customer. She doesn't need the shepherd show right now I think the cool customer was definitely something I worked on oh, yeah, I wouldn't say I was always I mean like I'm pretty cool I mean the shoes they speak for themselves Like Boaboots The other person I guess this is Monica as you even heard we were recording came in these Jordans are so the colors Do you have lots of Jordan Dax is a Jordan collector and has brought me into the fold It's a real fold.
I did it for a little while you did I worked with an idea who's like obsessed and every day who's like Oh, you got the sevens or something and I was like what are they but I would get like the kids kind yeah, you know Because I mean my feet look really cute. What's I sure you seven and a half Monica's a five point five oh boy So generally what happens is I go searching for a set and they don't have my size and then I slide over to five point five To see if they have money size. They're almost more fun on her than me like I can appreciate them on her Also, she's a beautiful brown skin, which makes different things very actually right now. She's watching your that's another day.
I'm watching a lot I always got cream. Oh, you do. Oh, you want to do a full body wash? Yeah, yeah I'm obsessed with moisturizing though.
I'm just like handlosing in the car face spritz Have you ever done one of those Vogue skincare videos? No But I'm not Yes, you are so vote. You don't like real life. Oh, like an actuality.
I'm so not I just died Just a video what do they do? They're just like so wait in the morning Yeah, they start off with a green juice and you know I start off in the morning with this just a cleanse and then I do a Squirt and they show the squirt like to camera cameras like in the bathroom Yeah, in the mirror because they're actual bathroom Chris and just did one and I was coming on glued in the other room because it happened to be in our bathroom I was overhearing the person that directs these videos and my wife works with on our friend Who's the nicest human being on plan earth and a very hard work and they were putting her through the ringer about the lighting in the bathroom And the camera angles everything I just kept hearing it. I started yelling weird things I'm like they probably look pretty good. I started getting like protective of Anna Is it just because it's like the bogus just like hard to please well as they should be like I'd later was like if you're gonna play ball You gotta play ball so like my wife said yeah, she'll do this vogue thing I have nothing to do with that but it was triggering in all these ways like perfection has to look like this These are all like my fears.
Yeah. Yeah, she looks so good in it if she didn't do all that stuff like The other ones would have been like what's wrong with Kristen's face and bad bro. I definitely do some like face Do some serums I just I bought like a full on Instagram facial thing You know those things that get you on the ads are like careful got one and then like make sure face like it sounds terrible But I look like a burn victim like sucks all down to not your face And you're just like and then all these crazy lines and I was obsessed with that I just like left on for so long. I was like I look so cool A child would you get in front of that mirror and like but Scott stay on yourself and do we Yeah, it's nice.
I used to put on makeup like my mom's makeup But I always had freckles I got more as I got older But it would always look really weird putting on makeup over freckles was it a bummer for you I didn't like it that much when I was younger, but this is all I got Like my thing they're like the other freckles like that's me I sometimes see photos of people who have as many freckles as I do or sometimes I even as much I'm like whoa, that's a look and I'm like, oh, I catch my stuff in the mirror. Wait, is that a baby you? Yeah, absolutely. It's the sweetest photo you've ever seen that's been turned into an oil painting by Rob Beautiful and you're a painter.
I am a painter. What kind of painter I paint like oils and stuff I do like really big ones lately. I have a studio. You said big.
What are we talking? They're like six by eight feet Yeah, that's enormous. Yeah, I used to draw just in like a room in my house and Everything was just like so hunched and tiny and really detailed now I really like it just like staple up a huge piece canvas and then I can kind of use my whole body This sounds Bosque yada'sk. Yeah, I feel like every painter like yeah, that's Bosque yet Yeah, well, they were huge and a lot of like mess and then control.
Yeah, that's like what I'm kind into yeah I'm gonna be in like an art fair. Oh, what's your art fair? It's called spring break and it's happening at the same time as freeze But it's kind of like a smaller cooler one and isn't your collections called controlled chaos? Okay, a beautiful mess Now it is a lot of the elves ended up with that tattoo in the 90s Beautiful mess Wow, I mean don't say it's a motto of the show We messiness of being Oh We're changing it this year.
We're going with mixed messages. Yeah, cuz that's kind of Monica nice kink Wait, can you just find out though? What does that mean? You like when people are saying mixed messages when something appears one way, but is better mind off frequency illusions And then you reveal oh it's a completely other thing now we're intrigued now.
It's novel. We're also obsessed with novel and proprietary Yeah, okay I like it and this is when I make a case for Monica outstanding me beautiful She isn't she always fights back. It's the exact thing you were just saying about the freckles which is you see other people's freckles I don't see your freckles. Okay.
Well, you know, but you have no precisely shitty eyes. Well, I do it bad vision See me just happen like she doesn't even see him, but also she can't see so doesn't mean See how it makes messages Like that's the same message over and over, but yeah, okay So I try to explain to Monica and she doesn't buy into this and I'll hit you with it all we want is novel I don't want you to look like a 80s vogue model. I watch the show and sincerely I said to christen are these people CGI Right, right? There was a whole cast of people that were impossibly perfect in quotes looking and I was bored out of my mind Yeah, how about Adam driver like when I first saw Adam driver in girls?
I was like, that's kind of cool that they cast this dude and by God for episodes and I'm like this might be the most attractive I've ever seen yeah, right. There's also like sexuality or like attractiveness is so much more than looking like super Symmetrical, I guess but do you find yourself attracted to the stereotype of the handsome guy on the cover of men's? I don't even know what the equivalent is no definitely not It just has a lot more to do with like how somebody carries themselves and their confidence and like that's what's sexy I think if you're a model you're kind of like Encombered by being perfect in a sexual capacity. I'm sure they feel like they have to make this sound and do this and be by the book because they're perfect That's what they sold.
Yeah, exactly that's that and that sucks like the totally be you or you can't find what's cool About you or unique about you you want someone to have found a lane. I do yeah I think when you're not trying to perfection to you actually have to make more of an effort And then if we're actually getting into like actual sex feel like sex should be so much more I don't know I'm bringing kids into this but like when you're a kid you first masturbate for the first time like it's kind of Brawn animal. Yeah, I'm looking to transcend all self-consciousness in the experience And you want a partner who you think can meet you there wants to go there with you. Yeah, what a great detour that was so fun Riverside, California you were born there you're raised in Palm Springs.
You have to tell me what a childhood Palm Springs is like Palm Springs is a really trippy place because it's like the class system is super present there It's like really old super wealthy people some of the wealthiest in the world have homes in like Indian Well, lots of old movie stars like in the 50s. That's kind of what ended up bring my family There was my grandfather was an actor. He had a weekend home there I mean nominated actor he was the male lead in Valley the doll Wow, he ended up retiring there than when my parents met in LA They decided to start a business there because it was like not a lot of people were living there anymore And it was just like cheaper in the 80s and stuff. It's a huge boom in bus city.
Yeah, totally It's like super dependent on LA's kind of whatever they're doing, right? Totally. So now it's like hot again when it wasn't my whole childhood It was just very empty Especially in the summer it's like movie theaters would be practically abandoned You buy one ticket and we just stay in there for hours because of the AC and we just smoke pot in the front seat Should we go watch walk the line again? I'm like the line is a childhood movie.
I don't know how to teenage But yeah, it was just kind of like there's nothing to do but kind of get high So I always would go there to write like if I had something do I would go there and I Write all day and then I'd fart around the town I'd be by myself and bored and then I go to like chain restaurants Which I love so as I would chat with staff members of these restaurants and stuff I'm just really trying to get the vibe of it My conclusion was like reminds me of Florida bit So you have this huge group of elderly people in Florida and then you have all these kids that got sent to live with grandma and Grandpa cuz the parents were so fucked up it reminded me of that There's like this drug use off the charts I'm like looking at people on spot and all these things and I'm like oh, there's a real undercurrent to this place Totally and it has this definitely darker side to it and then like an old lady in a Bentley and you're just like What is the balance? It's like her grandson who just like sold based something and also in high school I went to like a nice private school my family was very like homey dinner every night very homey But a lot of my friends were like public school like getting in trouble and I like to hang out with them So I kind of got to see both sides They're like punk shows we'd go to where friends of theirs that like just lived in a park And I was like okay, you just live here like you're 15 and just getting high or like kids doing meth and I never think I Did that but there was a period where I was just like I want to try out like I want to be so distraught I just ended up being like a pothead who did like bad MDMA a couple times You know, but it had this very yeah like fuck all kind of vibe looking back. It's kind of romantic Yes, also I was acting since I was nine So I would have this kind of do a life where I'd like come to LA and have this very kind of productive life Where people are looking at me at a young age being like you're special And we like you and felt so fun and then half the year when I wasn't working I was like back in this desert where you had no Social capital yeah, and I just had a couple good friends. It was a nice child.
I'm saying it was very like my mind Just was like I Yeah, super code switching some of the coolest people I've ever met are from the desert Yeah, it breeds like an interesting kind of person well also the environment although appealing for a weekend vacation It's a hostile environment sometimes 120 degrees. Yeah, is your father keltyan? No, he's iraki So he's from Baghdad, but I don't think he's keltyan I'm not sure about you're a Christian Muslim. So the Christian Iraqis are keltyans right Michigan We have an enormous population of a bunch of movies like near Detroit.
I fucking love Detroit so much Yeah, it has one of the biggest populations like outside Iraq Yeah, it's the biggest population and highest concentration. Yeah, okay, so he's not keltyan I got really excited that maybe out of it the first person you met in LA that knew what your father was What aspect of childhood that bring to it because Monica's father's from India is your mom indian too So my mom was born and raised in LA and New York because her dad was the actor I was never any religion but culturally we were everything She's like French and Norwegian or something wild. Yeah, she's Norwegian Irish and Sicilian her whole family It's like from the warlands like we're super rich family there too weirdly also in nightclubs because that's my parents do they own a strip club I Love your parents now. Yeah, they're really right.
I'm trying to write something about it right now. Yeah, you got it Were you in and out of the establishment over my dad was so strict It was just like you have to be 21 whereas my brothers I know popped in there before they were 21 sometimes I see the dancers they used to have like a little lingerie store next door in the little shopping center and they'd pop in it's like I was very much around it, but it wasn't so I was literally 21 I took my friend who was a gay guy and like of course he was bored he was like playing pool the whole time It was like the first time I actually was like in there when it was open and there was this moment where I was talking my dad He was like talking about my schedule. He was just like so you've like to know what I'm trying to do And then this girl comes over and she asks about her schedule And she's like younger than me and like really hot and like a string bikini and I'm just like so my schedule and he was like yeah Yeah, anyway My whole life had weirdly cracked open and I was like is this why I am how I am sure that's a big clue When you tell your therapist that story they pull out their notebook We got some references I mean that had to affect your perception of sexuality Yeah, I think a big part of it was this idea of like I'm cool I have sex like a dude, you know that whole persona of confident girls when they're young being like that'll give a shit You know I used to brag about it when I was even younger like my dad on the strip club And like I didn't even know what that meant and they were too young they were like 14 like they're not gonna go to the club Well, it's dangerous like it's punk rock totally But again, then my dad coached our soccer team like he was so present as a dad and I was like the biggest priority But what was funny is because he was Muslim and came from like such a different culture And then landed in Holy Woke where he met my mom and then that's the only business that they knew he was a bar back My mom was a waitress at the body shop on sunset backup Not the second time my mom but dad is an Emmy nominated actor with some public forward facing her son Her father and then she grabs a job over at a strip club. There's a lot there I pull out my notepad for that little wrinkle she went to the law school dropped out and was like this isn't for me She was raised like a princess his career was shit So he didn't really have money by the time she was out of college and she was raised like this princess who was like super well educated like uh, where's my You know what happens?
Where's my trust box? Yeah, exactly she talks about their romance It was very like, you know, my dad barely spoke English but he has such a strong spirit and was like I will succeed Came with like no money in his pocket and my mom was used to hanging around very different kind of people So when she met him she was like, oh, this isn't the guy I'm gonna marry But I'll kind of teach you I'll take you to my wing kind of vibe And he was like in love with her right away and they have a really beautiful balance because they're very yang and yang like My dad's strengths are my mom's weaknesses and vice versa Do you think your mom was drawn to that world because it was like in opposition to what she was supposed to do? The way she talks about it is that like he was kind of like a spiritual guide for her even if that sounds strange like he really taught her the importance of things My dad's like a very honest good person So yeah, it was so different from the world of superficiality and some fame like she was very triggered by fame because it kind of messed up her family When she was young by the time it came back around where all since she was a kid, it wants to be and she was very like holly what's the devil? Your kids are gonna end up on a strip club in a desert if you proceed It's cool now thinking back on the meeting as they were young.
I'm like so rad She had to be attracted by the uniqueness and the novelty of him. Totally. Yeah, he was like very positive Sometimes in like the hollywood of it all whatever there can be a very strong negativity a pull of like comparing yourself to others and not being valuable And my dad was like we're here. We're alive.
Let's make stuff. Yeah, very positive person Well, he had just crossed the world to do something. Yeah, and it was a struggle to get here. Okay.
Now here's where we're gonna transition very softly Into an area that you're gonna hate which is I'm gonna tell you how much I like your acting I find myself pretty judgmental of performers who I can tell have never been anything but performers the difference of like life experience versus Yes, just experiencing like showing off when I watch you I can feel that like I feel that Heart of your life is acting. I don't even feel like it's the most significant part of your life Yes, or identity makes a better way to say it I definitely don't connect to it being my main identity I do really love doing it But the actual period of time of actual acting compared to all the other stuff to get there They kind of like outweigh so when you're saying you're like an actor It's like you have to really love all the other stuff and like I haven't been on set in a minute You know I did like two jobs this summer and they both came out so I was promoting it But I haven't actually been on set which is my actual work showing up in the morning getting ready learning most of your lines Yeah, the majority of it ideally taking a poop in the morning probably not Which will dictate how good you are the rest of the day But then like putting on the clothes like the whole thing and I'm like really feeling in my body and stuff and trying to create a authentic moment It brings me a lot of like tension and like stress and it's like never enough and tightness Very tight in my body and emotionally I'm like always on the edge because I feel like that's the place I get to when I'm doing a job it's exhausting I agree with you for me. I've got to like step over all these things to do It kind of messes with your psyche a little bit after a while I just noticed when I was younger I was like a job to job I'm like I gotta job I do it And now I'm like I don't need all the money in the world like I'm good Yeah, and I'm like so I'm okay right now. Thank God And I just I'm like I don't want to do stuff unless I'm like oh I actually need to express this in my body And I really think I would be helpful to the story like I think it actually is important to make but those are sometimes few and far between because it does feel like If I'm not doing other stuff, I'm like what am I pulling from?
I have no energy if I go job to job and I'm just like on another set which a lot of people I know do and I just could it I'm like so tapped after I do a job I'm like you don't have the endurance for that I don't have it as much as I used to and also open the show search party that I love making You know we did five years of it I mean just finished it and I love it so much but it is such an endurance thing and then I had a moment where I started to learn Where I'm like I don't have to do that to get the best performance I don't have to like destroy myself because it's not sustainable It's also a confidence thing Yeah trusting that you can do it without it Yeah, like I got to do a movie with Robert Duvall and Robert Downey was also in it Two actors who I can't imagine being as good as and watching how they did it There was none of that stuff You know what I'm saying they weren't grinding they had patience they had their own pace And then I'm standing next to other actors that are like they've been working on this role for six months They're living in character Yeah, and they're all great everyone's great in the movie But I just was like mmm I'm more attracted to that version Totally Where's like I just show up and like I let things happen Yeah like a flood like a river more like I want to get like I'm comfortable with it And in order to do that I need to have a full life outside of it Where it's like I don't like feel better just because I know I have a job That used to be a big thing when I was younger I was like I'm not working I'm not working I'm not working I'm like I'm just like fall apart And I was just like I can't keep doing this myself like my whole confidence is whether I'm like I got a guest spot I'm jagged or something You know first job I got 99 good job 11 years old yeah I was already there to live in it I have a question about that because we just interviewed David Arquette Oh, yeah And he talks a lot about that like group in the 90s like Leonardo Caprio and him You know that movie kid 90 Soleil moon fries home videos of that whole time Yes And you see all these like people and it's so specific the vibe and the energy And I feel like there's a similar group of your age Did you guys have a crew? We definitely had a crew I mean we had we had I mean your first series regular was with me on a show called State of Grace Yes, uh-huh Which was like a wonder years for girls such a good show to get it out Yeah, I was like two and a half seasons back when they'd be like did you get the pickup or whatever Like I have order ever So much yeah, but it's such a good show it's like in the 60s So we were like 13 years old dressed up in 60s clothes and just like it's like an adventure Like two best friends really like wholesome well-gritten show and then Francis McDormand was like my Daniel Stern, you know Like to the voice over Oh, why do you know that Daniel Stern that narrated one of your years? Yes, I didn't even know who Daniel Stern Why did you contest with me? You didn't?
I know I was just slower to it But yeah, there was a crew and what was the vibe of that? Sarah Ramos, I mean and then our friend landed pig Oh lovely in the pig That crew we used to hang out like every day But I still trip out I mean Michael and Gerano I think I trip out on it now because now I'm like 32 and I like I know so many People that I've known for like a minute now, you know, I mean it's not just like we're all just here We're all meeting at the party. I was like I knew you and you were like 20 You're sold and now there's other generation that's actually in the early 20s I'm like what are you like your whole other life formed to me? But yeah, that crew I mean we sang out all the time I used to live in Silver Lake in this little apartment And it just felt like early 20s time we just like hang out every day and you're like every meal Yeah watching like say by the bell gang stone Going in the roof and it was just like the most fun ever I'm all we do is talk a lot of that Me coming home the next day big like guess Are you at all at trophy hunter?
I'm embarrassed to have been in the past Trophy hunter like sexually yeah like like if someone now you had evaluated as having way more status than me Right like you attracted to that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Okay. Good. Good.
Good. Good. No, I was definitely like the person at brunch Like I was the Samantha if you were like I really had to like get out of it I was like I can't be Samantha forever. You look at Samantha.
You know exactly you had to get out Okay now to continue on the path of flatter and you and what you like. I like it Okay, good. So one thing is the authenticity. That's the thing I'm attracted to.
The other thing is And I think I have to tell you this actually when I saw cedar rapids Yeah, yeah, because I'd seen a rest of development that's a very specific thing you have to do on that show Admittedly, I was watching it because I was just did a movie with our net So I'm like I'm trying to find out who our net is that's why I'm watching it because I hadn't seen it and of course It's fucking brilliant But I'm probably focusing on him and then Bateman who I kind of look up to you're maybe below my radar at that point because I'm just looking at These people I want to be like yeah, actually thank god I wasn't observing you all that much I just wasn't but then in cedar rapids you do a thing that is very hard for me to do You have a pacing that I also love in certain comedians Which is to have the confidence to live in the awkwardness before you relieve everyone with a joke And that is something I really admire in great stand-ups is like that confidence and calmness and pace It's very comforting as an observer because you're like they're so confident they got me Exactly. You're never afraid that's exactly I don't know what we get actors when I'm like, oh they're on screen like we're gonna be okay Yeah, we're good. Mickey Rark is here. Yeah.
Yeah, we're like he's gonna make it something no matter what they're not breaking the third wall You know what I mean? I'm like I'm lost in it for a minute So I think you have that the reason I think it's bold as an actor is we're in a business of getting notice and of being flashy I don't find you to ever be trying to be flashy And then the reward of that is when you give us something you've created your own world of believability for me And now when you give it to me, it's that much more impactful. So like search party I became obsessed with search party when started watching to make you the text center. No, I asked her permission to read it Maybe I'll do that Chris and I started binging it and right now the gates I'm like well This is a show built around you you had to be the first person cast you probably helped develop it You're probably very instrumental in the direction it goes and you're the least shiny part of the show right right initially It's like your friend is fucking brilliant the gay kid who's on early.
Yes. I mean off the charts your boyfriend is incredible John Reynolds Meredith Haggner the genius who plays Porsche Yeah, so I see this group and I'm like this is someone very confident because you're letting everyone shine you're mostly setting people up or reacting to them but then as the chaos ensues now you start coming out and shining and I'm like oh she earned the fuck out of all this Like I'm now I'm here for all this. Yeah, I have to give a lot of credits to the writing I thought you were gonna say the dolly operator. I'm like this guy Jeff You know what yeah great dolly out of show great crew But yeah, the writing of that character was really I was a first person cast I have been very involved on the show for a long time But tonally they really created a character that was like you think I'm just a straight man I'm like I'm playing it just like this subtle like I'm a wallflower and I don't I'm just react I'm very natural Which was kind of my wheelhouse at the time, but it also felt funny because when we were first making it I was like are we on two different shows here And we all felt that way like John really was like we're really playing very different tones And yet we're still listening like the scenes were an awkward to shoot they were funny and he created something unique a rule I tried what here to in screen writing is like you have two options either the world can be heightened and the characters can be real Or the characters can be heightened but the world better be real like you're what allows all those jokes for me to work Because they would be annoying to me if the whole world was heightened and everything was loud Because you're actually the world now the characters can be heightened Right and then it gets to kind of switch especially with this last season where you flip the fucking script enlightened kind of like guru And all of a sudden I have more confidence.
I'm just a little more like reaching out to that world You know, it was really fun to play when I think of Dory I'm like all I'm doing is just this like thinking like for me my brows just like what's going on And then I this final seems like I do that yeah Because I just put a lot of friends of mine are like my partners like you're so goofy in real life Which I like to think I am but on camera. I'm so composed sometimes So I really like to play something a lot goofier in the future That's always keeping it real obviously but to play out a little more because I do as a performer I try and strip it down of everything So it just is like this core version but sometimes that's a tame because again live you could be goofy and expressive You don't think about it obviously because it's not selling a story also in this likely isn't the case for you But it is for me which is Nicholas Cage was my favorite performer when I was a kid like just obsessed with him And I read every interview he was in and he had this great interview while promoting face-off Which is it was not until he did face-off and he saw Travolta do an impersonation of him that he realized he had any uniqueness Right that he has like a thing. What are you talking about? Okay, you know and so that is the first time he realized he was enough Right and then if you look at his work retrospectively you can see someone who didn't really think they were enough Which created all these incredible performances that I love yeah I found myself going on the same ride where it's like it took me 18 years of doing it before I could just go like I'm totally enough That's why I feel like some people who never acted before sometimes to get the best performances because they don't even know how to do it They don't even know they're like I'm not putting anything and if they have a good director and they get really comfortable or kids They can't overthink it exactly and they're just showing their pure self and if you have a director that allows them to feel comfortable and you capture it That's what's more disarming It's like everyone's unique and special has this like thing you want to see inside But that's why like actors quote unquote can be really bad because if you could catch somebody acting Yeah, you're like yeah, I do love actors like Nicholas Kager people who always think of Alan coming for some reason He's like such a great actor like he was like in spy kids and then he can do something really serious and be like I do cabaret Like all these really big and yet it still always has the connection in the middle hate plan chat too Yeah, she could be so big.
Yeah, sometimes you're like this is overacting, but it's not never is there's something in her eye That's like this makes sense to me. I'm gonna get Cooper that same compliment It's like pretty radical different characters and everything yet running it through at least one part of himself So that it's always yeah, and that's the technique I think so like try to be authentic But then if you can build that that takes work. Yeah, stay tuned for more If you dare My very favorite moment of search parties when you finally hook up with that older dude around the music yes Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes And so it's like there's a moment post quite a like yeah It's all in right this guy seems to be like have a whole thing going and maybe it's gonna be an exciting life I can use like a sluth yeah private eye So rocher bottles everywhere. I remember I love the set design.
I was like why is it so messy and they're like yeah We don't have to be like really gross in here So you can see it's kind of like the moment where it's like I love it like they've built up entirely fake persona for somebody Yeah, yeah, and then post-coital all of a sudden like the glasses go on You're like oh wow this guy lives in a shithole one bit of apartment and now he's super neat as fuck I wish I could remember he has one line right out of the gate three like oh fucking out. Okay. She's seeing exactly who he is He has like a tattoo or something. It's like a rabbit With sunglasses on I don't know like I'm like oh cool and he's like I tell you what it means, but it's a secret Like I feel so alive Like push up something and I'm like oh god I got a guy out here Oh god, what's that fantastic and Livingston's a perfect person?
Oh my god. He's so handsome You had to allow himself to be so dorky. Yeah, oh so good. Okay.
This is something I've observed with me quite often And I would have had a meltdown on set which is where I'm parenthood She's got the most seniority there like literally if you do the math she's been working since three Yeah, so that puts her at like 19 years on sets and Peter Lauren and I don't think have 19 years cranking else in does that's it Her and Craig see it's probably why their scenes were the most magical But they're treating her like a 20 year old girl And I just kept thinking this has to be maddening and I wonder if you had that as well along the way Definitely it's gotten a lot better. Well, but you've gotten older I've gotten older and also it's kind of like when you work with people of your not just age group But of your like similar sensibility is yeah, there's like a mutual respect You know like on search party was always so like valued. I was talking to my mom the other dish She's like counting the years what she loves to do. She was like you've been doing this almost 25 years And I was like oh my god.
I was like time for me to quit while I'm ahead But you know, it's definitely happened on sets for sure I mean even recently I got on the fight with like a you know second AD or whatever And this guy was like my age a little older but he was acting like a fucking dude he was doing and he just wasn't doing his job And I wasn't being rude, but we got like a whole thing and I almost got like canceled, you know It's like a thing where like I'm not allowed to say dude. No, you're fucking up I know I just it's like the back of my hand this kind of shit and it was very like I have to be delicate to talking about And it's like you're in a position you won't say that always But anyway, I mean I'm still heated about it obviously Well, I probably because of the undercurrent is like if I had said it no issue That's right. I'm a strong man with boundaries and you're a bitch I'm the producer and the star of the show and you're acting like you know what you're doing And I respect if you're doing your job right but we have no time You know, it's very stressful on sets and that does happen sometimes But it also like it was a learning lesson for me because I was really frustrated with this person And I thought they were failing in the moment and I was trying to fix it And I had a moment where I was like, you know what? It isn't my job to fix that I need to talk to another producer and be like see what's happening there Let's not have that happen again tomorrow.
We're losing time instead of emotionally getting drawn into it where I was just like Must fix now because I do get a little like I know how to do everything and no one's listening to me Once you trigger mine and Monica's sense of justice like everyone watch out like soon as I think I have a just cause Pretty much the nuclear options on the table. Totally. I'm like that too. Honestly.
Honestly, I'm only on a set It's not about your feelings right now, you know, I'm a little back. I I'm like, it's about getting the shot It's a job. Yeah, we're working here. It's like everyone's obviously very sensitive And we have to be respectful on sets and stuff But I've seen people be so messy on sets and so disrespectful on sets and I don't support that But it's funny when they think I'm like all I'm trying to do is get this shot I thought that's what you cared about for me personally I'm not gonna speak for you, but the job in itself is scary You're gonna be vulnerable you have the only job on set that the whole crew's gonna watch you fail at seven times Right, we don't ever see someone late dolly track incorrectly seven times while everyone's there watching and go quiet quiet And we know we're not going to lunch because that person isn't laying the dolly track right for me I have a certain fear on a set and so basically I want everyone else to do the thing so that we can do the scary thing safely for sure I wish I hadn't gone so upset, you know, but I do get the defensive kind of like because I'm a woman you think that I Blah blah blah.
Well, that's what I was going to then follow up at the age thing I imagine compounded by the female aspect But you've also been like almost solely dude cast and then you find yourself like in a more female driven world on search party And then also you do this movie being the Ricardo's which is telling a story of obviously like probably the first female Mogul and hollywood who owned her show and stuff totally so when you find yourself in those worlds What are the pros and cons of that? I mean kind of growing up on the rest of development was like very male Me and Michael talk about it like sharpened our sensibility of our humor I think without us even being aware like being at table reads not fully getting jokes being like we'll get it on the day I guess it's funny like any windows about me sitting on his lap I was like I know something sexual like how about you say something and everyone laughs, but you don't know why they laugh That happened a lot, but I mean that show it did really sharpen me and shaped me so much But looking back I always felt like I was never funny enough loud enough Yeah, and it was always like hi, you know like hi pitch voice I was like well, you're all joking around five minutes and I walked out and everybody got like no No, no, no, we're talking about nipple clamps and fucking amyl nitrate my folks own a strip club Yeah, I was like oh, I think about at that time I had already been doing it for so long So it's like you know all those things kind of play into it Where's like definitely when you're on more female driven sets But also just like minded sets where it's like all different kinds of people like I mean being the recorders was an amazing experience But it kind of reminded me more of like a rest of development It's like you're in sort of like okay here I am I just quietly sit here and when it gets to me I'll save my line and it was so different I was like I went to search party right afterwards I was so different we're all just more like just really doing up the scenery loose exactly Which is I'm like that's how I work best and doing a movie that was that big with all these big movie stars It's like super cool for me. It was like a challenge, but I definitely wasn't lose right right right right right not like let's try Some stuff Aaron. Oh, you know this line here.
It would be funnier if I flipped Did a rest of development enhance this cool guy thing? Yeah for sure I mean it had to have a hundred feet around all those guys and literally that would happen, you know They were very sweet to me, but they'd even tease Michael and then not me and I was like it's cuz I'm a girl I'm like it's so unfair cuz I'm funny and I had a tough skin I had brothers I was very like home boy trying to be cool like I don't care But inside I was like please like me I fucked my sister up that way too my younger sister So he ended modeling a dude. Yeah strength comes with masculinity and femininity seems like weakness. Yeah, you know So yeah, that's how we're killing us.
I know it's killing everybody It's like the mother's actually strong, but she's being Dad is like can never be weak and is dying inside? He can never cry no, and he's always leaving the house and you're like the outside world's better I guess I Say for out there without the emotions. Oh, that's such a good call because I look back I'm like not recently but a while ago was like looking back at diaries I had from when I was at that time and I was so that's sad But I was so desperate for their approval. Yeah, which is like so funny cuz you know now I'm like I'm like at that time.
I really was like I have a scene tomorrow. I really hope they think I'm funny Yeah, and it was such a like smart guy crew. Yeah, like the top mediums like when you're around like willing Jason Allen they were just like joke on set offset and I'll give Arnett this compliment Which is there isn't a funnier person on a set they're bidding in between is like insane world-class better than being 15 around that and being like Do I look fat in this outfit my boobs were growing in and like all my sweaters were like tug right here And I was just obsessed with like the tugger. Yeah, I think you should leave.
Oh, yeah Do you remember that tummy tugger and it's a handle on shirts for guys who always took their shirts away from their belly is so fucking good You want to read your text from me? Yeah, I want you to know that I have to preface this by saying this text was written While laying next to my wife, okay, so just know that like you're safe, okay But I've always dictated this text to me and you know I call her BB and she calls me Diddy So I said BB please don't let this arouse any jealousy in your heart as you know you have always been my number one Famously wife, but I'm watching search party and I'm developing a carnal craving to make out with your friend Can she and I do a short together or something about kissing or a case jeweler commercial? Listen as fucking response. Oh like a maze one of the best textures.
I was not a matter. She writes I cannot argue with these notions. Alia is quite the woman notoriously sensual men die at her feet Though D will have to strap on his thickest socks to fill the shoes of thou who's come before I know I feel like that should be in this Sharp writing right here. Yeah, she got Shakespearean on me there for a minute I'm just calling in themes and Well, anyways, I wanted to read you that text that happened in January of 2020 So that's when we were really railing through and so the fifth season of search party is out currently yes HBO Max it's a TV show with that's in conclusion TBS more interesting to me.
God bless TV. Yes. I love them first two seasons were on TBS And then what happened was the show was not air for two years because they were like we're transitioning HBO Max is gonna be this new thing I was like you know Max would a name Yeah, and now like everything is streamers everything's just changed so much until it's like you're not a streamer like what are you I guess No one even has cable anymore exactly I remember arrested was like on Fox We go these like Fox parties and you think about it's like the 1920s just like money just like pouring everywhere I'm all the up front I tried to explain to the listeners what up front is up? But like it's crazy when you look back.
It was like Wolf Blitzer with a drone, you know Like the amount of money and indulgence of stuff back that yes TV. They just be like it's a holiday party I was like it's July. They're like whatever. Yeah, it was crazy and now I'm like we don't even get like anything They were like you're gonna do a zoom good.
Thank God They were just about all the actors I mean me and Michael were really young at that time and we would just be sitting in the corner with cranberry juice mine We would just like do pranks onto like OC cast around a lot You know it was like I dare you to go up to sell it So it's just like a weird celebrity is and people and they would have it all the goddamn time in some very weird cross-pollination Always be happening because the network would always have some Hail Mary pass that would involve like a football players got a show Senators now got a show so that would be in the mix too. Yeah, very strange. Yeah, we love it now Whatever we love it. I've complained in past about their sign and mix I feel like they make me sign in over and over again more than the other ones And I do think they're maybe the best streamer for my estimation them and I've watched them the most weirdly Yeah, that's why it hits that much heartache.
I'm like you guys have the Cadillac So let's just make this thing very easy to sign into yeah, I was watching when I had COVID a little while ago I was like, thank you. Which very nice impression But I watched all the old sex in the city again from the beginning so fun But it did resign me in every like third episode and I felt guilty because it was like the thing that Netflix had you know Like still watching it was like that vibe where they're like, oh, we're gonna sign you up You can't keep watching I was like I am consistently watching TV all day today At least I was like don't sign me out anymore. I've got an ounce of kind buds. Yeah in my lab Ever watched are you ever on friends?
I'm friend. Yeah, like it may was no. I know I was like what a crazy statement I was I think it's still an air Sorry 2004 maybe 99 Jack could happen see that's why I had to ask also HBO Max friends Oh, do you know that she was on fucking Ron Mars? Yes with Michael Sarah?
Wait, I'm like, which episode I get raped bald cap You have cancer no I raped me I remember the ball cap like a ball cap away a hair coming through and I remember the hairdresser being like never shave your head I was like okay, and like Michael was in the same episode which was like I guess the writers big like I was like a nice scene with Kristen I'm like Oh my god Make out with someone and I had my head get shaved like at least it was fake like the fake ball cap I was like I'm going through a lot in this episode that season was intense Kristen almost got raped personally I was like roofy like a couple dozen times in years on that show like she could not trust a glass anywhere near her I do remember like there's so many scenes of like kissing like 1560 I'm like these others all these kissing scenes every day We'd have to do it. We didn't talk we were like best friends But the day we had a kissing scene we wouldn't talk all day and then we do the scene and afterwards like okay Anyways, we like get back to it but on that episode of Veronica Mars. I had to kiss this guy who's like an actor He was very sweet, but I was so he was older than me. How old were you?
I was like 16 Maybe and he was like 19 it was like nerve-wracking for me and like the ideas we have to show the opening moment before I get raped So it's like a kiss on a tumble and I'm like wearing a mini skirt I just remember being like hopefully like I was such a virgin. I was like a really bloopers. I was just like I'm so scared Like I was really nervous about it. But Kristen was so cool.
I remember she's to have hot water with lemon Which I thought was like so chic. That was before I got her hooked on caffeine and nicotine. Yeah, she's very healthy. Yeah, yeah Well, what's funny is when we first started dating she'd already done that show right and again like the I was like I owe it to him to watch rest development I was like I'm gonna have to watch that fucking teenage salute show.
She's on right nobody's really well Oh my god We were shooting another movie in New York and I said okay That was the time for me to watch this show literally to get through this show So when you start dating someone and you have this whole show to watch of her like now school well then like so I got to episode Three and I was in the bedroom. Obviously she's watching it with me and she comes in She's like so we can meet someone so at this body pick and I go Like I was I couldn't I was watching some brain. Oh, I love that show Right 180 Lylia, um adore you admire your your work style your tone flow your skin care Alright, I love you this is really fun. I'm glad it's a good for a spot Okay, great that's how we feel well for anyone who wanted cast alien eye in the same thing making this case commercial like make it Far away if you want to Be on time.
Hey, all right adore you. You too. Thank you stay tuned for our If you dare And now my favorite part of the show the fact check with my soulmate Monica Padman What is this ring good? I bought this ring.
Tell me about that ring. It's from Fox and Bond. Okay, yeah, jeweler Okay, it's gorgeous. Thank you, and it's sparkled like crazy.
Yeah, and I don't think I noticed juries It has diamonds in it. Oh my god, they're girls best friend. Oh, wow. It's really elegant.
Thank you. It's vintage It is oh my lord. Yeah, Callie's friend Sonny. She owns this company with somebody else and you know how he's getting married Congratulations the best I won that's right So she brought jewelry for Callie to try on and and then while that happened I asked for some pieces to try on too sure of course It was a shopping situation.
Yeah, I also got these earrings. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Oh my gosh You're ready to go back to India.
I know yeah using some more gold Well, I used to be scared about too much jewelry because I didn't want to be so Indian yeah, but I'm over that now right now. It's time. Yeah, the time is now So speaking of your Indian heritage I had posted a picture of myself in my shelter punk rock shirt Yeah, which Bob had found for me which is my very favorite piece of merch ever from my punk rock days was this shelter merchandise It was a harry Christian upon crockman The music I was just whatever that's not what I liked about him their merch was the best Yeah, and so I post that picture and then Neil hit me right away. He did yeah He's like damn what is that like he was on fire for it of course I don't even learn that it was a harry Christian upon crockman then he was really lit for it really yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I thought you've been chatting with my brothers Wow following him for some time years So he's fired up so good Christmas gift for you or birthday I didn't get him a birthday gift.
Yeah But I got him a really nice Christmas gift and then his birthday is really soon after yeah, that's a great idea I love that you can give me ideas for my brother now. Well, it's the least I can do to repay you for your phenomenal Christmas giving guide. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do that you need a brand about it though not to be critical That's fine. Oh, like you what did I say you're your Christmas guy?
No, you need like a nice catchy thing. Okay, right? Maybe you can help me with that part. Yeah, monocrismus Guide I make it one word compounded.
Okay, monocrismus guy. I don't like that. It probably will look confusing written out, but we'll see We'll see you in ten months Tell me about your sleep last night That doesn't sound like it's gonna be a good report a good update. I wasn't very good Mm-hmm.
I know I'm reticent to acknowledge that mine wasn't either But boy was I up and down up and down the weirdest dreams I mean this is so recurring I constantly am supposed to be flying somewhere and I don't know how to get there and time is running out in my phone is Yeah Yeah, compounded with I also was working for shows and shoots again So I had to fly to a city to wash cars and then what the other thing was happening was and this is like a vestigial show Biz anxiety thing was like I ran into an executive. It was a female executive I think I was she was reminding me very much of sucroll who was an executive at Warner Brothers I had liked her a lot and so she this person was very sucroll ask and then she was saying that she liked to my show and then I realized Oh, that's right. I make a show for at that studio And then I remembered and it was canceled huh, that's like and and then I found myself like trying to explain to her why I thought it didn't work out I guess there's a chip failure dream, but now it transitioned into I was on a show part of it Is I think I have had many thoughts about show business over the last year Yeah, and one of them was and I voiced it the thing that like excited me about show business is that you could be in Happy Gilmore and or you name the comedy and you'd repeat it for years Everyone would have learned all the funny jokes That's how movies were when I grew up so you could be in something that somehow was like indelible is that the word yeah, and Because movies aren't a thing anymore, you're like, oh, well, okay So that thing's gone and then it kind of transition well You maybe could be in breaking bad like that would be equally as exciting and memorable and you know But the downside of how much amazing television we have is they kind of get forgettable Like I don't think anyone's gonna go watch Breaking Bad really there's so many fucking good options Yeah, it's like I can't even keep up with the shows And then I just thought well then I guess then it's just a job which maybe it should have always been just a job I don't know just something weird has become obscured by the way the business has evolved interesting right I guess it's hard for something to be iconic anymore because of the volume I think yes It's just changing your mindset of not needing it not needing to be in something iconic just being in something you like or that's enjoyable to do Ultimately, it's probably healthy right because it's only about like oh I want to go work with those people and have fun doing that thing But it just something's evolved or changed or maybe just got older I don't know because people are still making movies and I just I would prefer to see a TV show if I like something I want to watch ten of it or ideally a hundred of it. Yeah, we do where you could just watch the same movie over and over again, right?
That's also an option right money ball. I saw him walking yesterday. Yeah, yeah by the bourgeoisie pig. Oh, oh wow Heard he's been at mess hall.
No. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh my god.
Oh my god Oh my lord So I have some updates okay hit me with some puppies one is I started making a lasagna a couple nights ago Way too late at night. Yeah, like I started it at seven. That's too late I didn't really think it would be that much too late, but then it wasn't ready to go into my mouth until ten Okay, yeah, okay because you have to cook it. It does a twice cook.
Oh it does first cook with aluminum foil Then you remove the oh and let get that correspond to exactly So it's like it was like an hour a little over an hour to cook and then they have to let it rest of course to firm up Congeal right it'll be soup if you cut into early what temper you cooking it at three-fiddy no four twenty five Oh my god, you're blasting it for an hour. I know I think that was a mistake. Okay. It was a little dry No, it wasn't boys so good, but the top got a little too cooked.
It became a cheese it a little bit a little bit a little bit but it was delicious it was my chef's recipe and God was it good. I ate it at ten and then I ate it again last night. Oh man. I wish I was eating gluten right now I know I would have brought you some I'd love a lasagna my mom rarely broke the lasagna Because as you say it's a fucking you first you got to make a full batch of spaghetti exactly I make a whole sauce Yeah, and you got to cook the noodles in the whole nine and then you got to build your layers.
That's right. Yeah, and make the cheese mixture The noodles are a thing because when I watched my video she has a technique because you don't want those noodles to stick That's right. That's hell on earth for lasagna. So you have to cook in batches So that already takes some time Yeah, and she oils a baking sheet and then you know puts the noodles so that they don't stay Yeah, more oils that you can stack them put room for the end so anyway It's just you know, I learned some new techniques, but it turned out great turn out great the good news is I had a week's worth of dishes to do Oh, great.
So I did that during the boredom. Yeah, I love to clean well I'm cooking as you know I know you you do a good job of cleaning as you go. I have not mastered I don't know how to do that mm-hmm I just because I feel busy the whole time right yeah I love it because as you know like if I can sit down to have this thing and there's no homework. It tastes better to me Yeah, I understand.
I mean that's an update. That's a big time up to lasagna Yeah, I was expecting though just to be honest some kind of twist. Oh you're sign-filled way. Yeah, like you ordered I know I'm just gonna have to own it.
I appreciate your honesty But I thought you know certainly you did an insta card or some delivery thing You didn't have that so then you had to work with this and then it showed up and then you tried to take it out You know what? Oh, yeah, that would have been a better story. Well just that would have been a Monica story for sure Well, I guess the twist is that it was ten right and that's not ideally when you want to pound a tunnel was on No, but I did do you sleep like a king that night? Oh, see it was nice I'm then I had something else I wanted to update I was just thinking about it on my walk I walked here your walk something interesting happened yesterday first of all my coffee line Yeah, the incredibly sweet Woman who was working was the same woman who was working when I tried to buy the person behind you Yes, but I did do that, but it comes elite Yeah, and so then she took care of my coffee.
Oh my goodness I know it was like, you know one of those loops. Yeah, like forward right, but you it's like pay it reverse Yeah, cuz no one had given you anything, but you paid cool paid it forward. You started it is what happened Yeah, and then you got reversed back. I got reversed.
Yeah, I think everyone would love a good reverse backing You know what it means, but it does it's so hot. It does we're in the fucking van reverse back and knock at the window? In the cops were there fucking middle of a reverse back. Oh, did you finish?
Of course? Yeah, so that was nice. Yeah big time But then I was driving and I was at a red I was turning right on red But there was a no turn right on red sign so I with specified times are just straight up straight up. It was a sunset junction Oh, yeah, oh go over by intelligency.
Yeah, I got triggered I think about sunset glitter gold never I wouldn't talk about them I'm sure sitting in the middle the highest value real statement world. I'm sorry You were over at sunset junction. Yes, and I was at a no turn right So I was waiting for it to turn green and then there was somebody behind me and they were honking like crazy telling me to go and I was getting anxious like it was getting really aggressive and I was like do I just go No, I can't go and then I looked over and this man standing on the sidewalk with his dog Whipped over to the people and was like pointing at the sign and like screaming at them. Oh me Yes, it was I had such a weird feeling of like intense Gratitude for that person you were defended.
That was the big takeaway So I was like I think I underestimate how much I want that Feel like I need that because I'm also like I'm a strong woman and I can I don't need defending and I'm I can do it on My own and blah blah blah but then when someone takes care. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to be protected So all I would say is like you're not not a strong woman if you're not flipping people off behind you Yeah, I agree. I mean it's a defense mechanism to have up of like I don't need that. I'm good.
I'm good And what was the driver's reaction? He stopped honking and then it turned like all kind of turns turn green So then it all was fine But that was a good one to throw at me because I turned right on right on those things if there's no fucking cars Yeah, you know I kind of start with this premise that all these rules are here to keep everyone safe And I respect that yeah, they're great rules to keep people safe But they're also designed for when there's traffic if it is 3 a.m. And you're the only car out on the planet I can't abide by the premise of this no longer exists. Yeah, so here I go Yeah, it's not right, but that's how I do do it I'm like well I just remind myself what the point of it is yeah, and I agree with the point of it in a certain situation And I don't and other times and I've somehow Authorized myself.
Yeah that assessment. I mean but you also feel confident in that role like in your car Exactly and not everyone does and I don't I'm just gonna follow it in case there's a car gonna come from a random place that I don't Expect or no, right no, no one should honky. I don't honk it I do honk occasionally when it's a Notre Dame right on red, but there are times Mm-hmm. This is a very common one again on the 101 off a cold water Mm-hmm, right it's a no-turn on red but only between 6 a.m.
And 9 a.m. Or whatever it is in 4 to 6 or whatever Yeah, the busy times yeah again because the point of it is to keep things safe. Yeah So I'll give someone a 2 if it's 8 p.m. They're not doing that right on red Maybe I should show it because maybe it's you and you're just like I'm I'm feel safer about the way to the light turns green Yeah, I mean I don't know but I wasn't wrong like I wasn't you're saying that person would be actually kind of wrong because they would should be going But additionally, you know just because you can turn right on red doesn't mean you're I'm wrong in many ways at the same time.
I guess yeah, I just I just was appreciative of that person Yeah, I am too. What did the person look like? He had a dog. He made me love dogs Sure, I love dogs.
He had longish hair. That's all I remember. An artist. Maybe a noble artist perhaps Yeah, cuz what happens to me again and this is the attribution error syndrome is if I were sitting at a no turn on red That had times and I didn't go it'd be because I was lost in my phone Right, there's just no way I would not I don't like sitting when I can be moving right So I think my like impulse knee jerk is they're just not paying attention.
Yeah, I don't think no They know but they're just nervous if I knew that I wouldn't pressure them, but I guess I should assume that's the key They are they are yeah, okay. Allia. Yes, Alia. Yeah.
Did you have any updates? Before we do that any housekeeping? I mean I'm compelled to talk about Ukraine, but I'm not too Cuz we don't really know what's gonna happen and if I say something that you know something crazier happens in the next couple days before this air is Yeah, I don't want to be insensitive. Yeah, I know it's hard to know it's like are we insensitive if we don't talk about it?
Are we insensitive and I don't want to I don't want to add to the fear But also I need people to understand the context of World War two Which is in a nutshell the entire reason Hitler did what he did was that he was a soldier in World War one and Germany surrendered and he did not think as many Germans did not think they needed to they thought they could have won that war They thought that the surrender was premature. He felt very shamed by that and that the whole country had been shamed by it and the result of which was the Treaty of Versailles which broke up the Empire to all these different places and then he got power with the sole goal of Quote reuniting the ethnic Germans that were stuck in the Suitor land so he invaded the suitor land and then the whole world went well Yeah, I can see they're all Germans and they should all be in one country So that is very similar so so Vladimir Putin was a KGB agent in Germany when the wall fell if anyone believed in the Soviet dream It was him he feels embarrassed that that Empire broke up and he's trying to reassemble it I'll go further Hitler knew there was only one way out for him victory total victory There'd be no negotiated surrender where he somehow wouldn't be killed or put in prison for the rest of his life Almost every single ruler of Russia when they step out of power goes prison. So he can't leave office Mm-hmm. What a fucking dangerous scenario that is exactly knows he can't leave office So he has to stay in power and so for him and this is what's terrifying about it The options are all or nothing for him.
Yeah, he has nothing to lose in a way, which is a terrifying proposition No, I'm not advocating for us going and getting boots on the ground I don't know I'm just I want I'm like we need to point out that like you would never think a Hitler could happen again And literally all the exact same steps are currently happening in front of us Yeah, it's really scary it is so sad and we would definitely have to act quicker than we did in World War two Yeah, which is also a fucking bummer than 2022. This is the options And I don't know how you navigate that with mutually Yeah, yeah, it's really scary it is I think we're all just kind of ignoring it because we're war-torn yeah Even in Afghanistan for 23 years Well, it's been and people have just rightly so don't want this to be the solution to problems anymore I don't exactly but you got these bad actors that kind of force you to yell the guy honking you know Hit me in my prayer my couplet. Yeah couplet Bombs or anything scary. Uh-huh, and this would be something scary.
Yeah, okay I also want to I just want to flag as well because in these situations where we are because we're fearful I am prone and I think a lot of people are prone to build the worst case scenario And if you read the headlines like I woke up this morning I was like bombing in Kiev and I'm like fuck and I looked and again who knows how this ages I'm nervous about it But that headline was a little incomplete. I'm not downplaying the tragedy there Just like if you only read the headlines and so it's bad Yeah, but also it's our obligation to make sure that we are not being sold a reaction right for sure so it's hard to fucking know Yeah, the only really encouraging thing and I pray that this is what kind of happens is and again I don't know whether I should trust the article I read yesterday But it seems that the reaction among Russian citizens. It's not good. That's they're not fired up like when they took over Crimea This seems like they don't fucking want Russia to be the pariah of the world They've had like mass protests there, but they're also arresting them.
I know it is In 2022, how do we fix it? Okay, well when Alia came she didn't know that she was gonna be involved in snared in this terrible war Yeah, there's not very many facts the boots her boots are amazing shoes right Chloe the brand love them. Yeah, Chloe by Chloe I have some clothes. Do you have Chloe by Chloe?
No, I just have a regular actually that is funny They do have like a side project. Yeah, another whatever called see by Chloe Is it less expensive? Yes, right? Because this is what they do like our money had like our money exchange, right?
Exactly a little bit more affordable. You want to talk about the Olson? Oh, yes. I'll talk about them in one second Chloe, I'm pretty sure the snake was a print.
Oh wonderful. Yeah, yeah, you're a snake apparently snake skin is problematic because often they peel their skin off while they're alive. I don't know how that could be what they do that That's what was told me by someone who loves animals. Okay, so I believe them and so yeah, it seems that the Chloe shoes are print Okay, that's helpful.
We think yeah now. Let's talk about the Olson twins. Okay. I love them me too And I want to have all their clothes.
Oh, yeah, I was just curious if it was public record at all Oh, it's public until I stared at that. I wasn't sure if it was or not. Yeah, so I dated Ashley Olson. She's just the most wonderful person She's fantastic and what I like so much when you update me about the row the row the row Is that when we were dating was when she was putting kind of all of her energy and focusing the launching out of big way So I actually got to see her like meet with design teams and like run her shit and she handles her be yeah, very impressive I think they are so awesome mowgles, but also like under the radar.
I wonder the radar. I love them. They're sarcastic Are they oh yes? Yeah, I think you asked me like that's a weird pairing for you know when you first found that out Yeah, I was like yeah, I would imagine on the surface.
That's a pretty weird pairing but I'm just super funny and sarcastic and Intelligent and yeah and bosses fucking major bosses. I want to know them. I had a dream once I forget if I talked about it on the show I had a dream that we were at some party or something and they were there And they were their young version of themselves okay, the babies or not babies But like teens kind of yeah because you know I am their age and I have been following them since fullhouse Was my first TV obsession. Yeah, so you know you got it dude.
Yeah, yeah, that's what they said Yeah, that was our catchphrase I luckily never saw that show because it would probably I probably would have not been able to be attracted to Ashley if I was Newers a baby. Yeah, or you would have felt like you know her whole life I started a party and I was kind of thunderstruck with the beauty but she She was there as a teen and I was so excited to meet her And then and then you took her into a different room and I didn't get to meet her. Oh my god She gave you some special gems that meant something from your relationship. Okay.
Okay. Well, I really wanted to talk to them And hang and become best friends. Yeah, and I wasn't able to do that in my dreams I'm sorry and then you had special gems. Oh, I wanted special.
I didn't give them to you. You don't want Jim I woke up. Maybe I gave them to me after I would have I'm sure it's all to say I just want all their clothes I mean, I love the row so much the skirt I wore to the live show was the row. Oh Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna add one little tidbit about this is making a case for how cool Ashley is And you got to be a car person to dig this when I met her a favorite car of mine Which nobody would get was the Cadillac de Ville DTS.
It's like a businessman's fucking Tony soprano luxury sedan Oh, wow, and I don't know how it came up because she also had a fucking G wag and AMG. Oh, she did That was my draw color black. Oh, I'm black. Yes.
That's a tough cool And this was 16 years ago 15 years or whatever. Yeah, and then she said I have another car and I said, what do you have? She goes oh, I have a black DTS. I Promise you that's the only DTS that was ever sold to a woman in her 20s in the history of the Cadillac DTS Did she say why like she just loved it?
Wow, and I was like this is this is a very unique. Yeah, and you said she's good It's scrabble. Yep. Yep.
I bet she gets the wordle on the second one. It's possible. Yeah I wouldn't mind reconnecting with her to find out she still has that DTS because probably only has like 9,000 miles on it I'd love to scoop that thing up for 3,500. Do you think she'd appreciate this ring?
Oh the way? Okay? Yeah, I just want her approval really bad. You're gonna get it.
You have incredible style and she would see that from a mile away Thank you. You're welcome Also, we were talking about the fact that what's unique about the row and what's so cool is that they started their clothing endeavor at Walmart They first they have the opposite trajectory of most companies. Yeah, acting ding ding. We're talking about the lower end version of Chloe and So generally like you build a brand.
It's awesome And then you got to figure out a tasteful way to get into Costco or Walmart or something so you can make the real money Yes, and so they started there. Yeah, so that's a big hole to climb out of if you want to be a respected designer And by fucking god they did it. Yeah, they had that Walmart. Yeah, they had a big line of many things.
Yes That's what build the Empire right? I mean also because they had multiple shows and then they had those videos. Yeah, and they went on crew They had cruises you could go on the cruises with them. It was a lifestyle brand big time like kind of one of the first yes, yes I would I would die if we had her on it would love to have her on yeah, that would be fun Oh, that would be fun Just putting out there in the world that I want all her clothes.
Yeah, and and she's great at scrabble Oh, by the way, the originator of round features when we've argued about round features. I generally will send you a photo of her Yes, and I disagree. Yeah, you do but you know here. We are yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah You see round features and you see her well, I was bringing it back to Alia. Oh Round features you think Alia has round features. Yeah big round eyes big round mouth Round features super beautiful. Yeah, okay.
I said in there that I don't see her freckles I said something like that. Yeah, and that made me sound stupid right? I mean I agree that I can see where you're yeah cuz obviously you can see your freckles right But I was being serious like I stopped seeing that's what I was gonna say I think what you meant is you just see Alia you like you know her face Yeah, and you see the entire thing you don't ever zero in yes. We only get that to our own faces.
Yeah, that's right. That is correct Okay, John early big star of search party Yeah, he's also on the new show the after-party the one that Ben is I mean everyone's in it Oh, this is the thing that I saw advertised a bunch maybe even on the Super Bowl. I want to watch it It's like a mystery murder mystery. Yeah, and it's the guys.
It's the oh it's um last man standing Lego Lord and Miller Lord and Miller. Oh, can I forget the Lord's name? Yeah, so that show looks good and he's in it great was there any Alia stuff? No, just a boot Okay, great.
Well, I really enjoyed hearing sorry me to the strip club Yeah, the sum up was that's maybe the most unique back story of an actor When she was explaining her life and when we were hearing it had this like it had this like movie quality to it has a richness of patina It does. Yeah, it's cinematic. I can see all the things me too and it's palm springs. It's like dry Club's it's coming to Hollywood.
Yeah, I like it. She was awesome. All right. Well, I love you and Ashley if I know you don't listen, but one of your friends listens, please Oh, don't want to interview her.
Please come on the podcast. Okay, first clothes with you. Yeah, that's right. No I mean, I want it.
I want to interview her so bad, right? And if she brought clothes great like that's like extra cherry on top arm Cherry on paper. Hey, reverse reverse back. Oh fuck.
God damn. Love you