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Joyce Vacherlin, on All About Nursing and we're live on the BDM Global Network and Tune in Radio. I have a very distinguished guest with me this evening that I think you'll really enjoy hearing from. My guest name is Dr. Beverly Malone.

She's currently the CEO of the National League for Nursing. During Dr. Malone's tenure at the National League for Nursing, she has really been working on getting the organization to really reflect the core values of caring, diversity, integrity and excellence and an ongoing focus on the advancement of health, the nation and global community. Dr.

Malone was ranked among the 100 most influential people in healthcare by Modern Healthcare Magazine in 2010, 2015 and 2016. In 2016, Dr. Malone also moved up the ladder to claim 39th place in the field of leading policy makers, activists, healthcare professionals and corporate figures in the healthcare, insurance and pharmaceutical industry. Also recognition in 2016 includes the Florence Nightingale Award, an induction into the home care and hospice Hall of Fame and an honorary doctorate from the Georgetown University and the nursing Hall of Fame, a Tuscadilly University in Alabama.

In 2017, she received the fellowship of the faculty of nursing and midwifery from the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland. Recently, she's been recognized as one of the top 25 women in healthcare in 2017. She was presented with a citation from the American Psychological Association for her outstanding leadership in advancing excellence in healthcare for the nation and global community and was named one of the top 25 minority executives in healthcare by Modern Healthcare Magazine. Within the last several years, she was elected to the Institute of Medicine and tapped to be on the board of the Kaiser Foundation.

She has a very distinguished career that's mixed with policy, education, administration and clinical practice. She's worked in a variety of different nursing roles as a surgical staff nurse, clinical nurse specialist and assistant administrator of nursing. In 1990, she was the dean of the School of Nursing at North Carolina at Cultural and Technical State University. In 1996, she served two terms as president of the American Nurses Association, representing over 180,000 nurses in the U.S.

In 2000, she became the deputy assistant secretary for health within the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, following four years of service on Bill Clinton, President Clinton's advisory commission on consumer protection and quality in healthcare industry. It is my pleasure to have Dr. Malone with us here this evening.

As you can tell, she has a very distinguished career and is going to be able to really give us, I think, wonderful perspective about what's going on in a very global perspective. So welcome to the show. So Beverly, maybe you could start off by telling us why you decided to go into leadership as a nurse. Well, my great grandmother was a nurse, but she was a community nurse.

She never got any degrees or anything like that. She was the person who worked in the community healing everybody. She was a community healer and she was my hero. And so it became something that I wanted to do and I felt I have calling for.

And so that's why I decided to go into nursing. And leadership was almost not an option. I wanted to have an impact. I wanted to make things different.

I wanted to provide as much support to those who needed care as possible. And I figured out early on that I could do that from a leadership position, helping my colleagues think about things in a different way and making sure that we were marching and forward. And so it was all of those things that led me into nursing and led me to start thinking of myself as a leader because it took me a long time to figure that out. Did you go to a baccalaureate school initially?

I was just curious how you started in nursing. I did. I went to the University of Cincinnati and Cincinnati, Ohio. I'm from Kentucky, the grand state of Kentucky.

And Elizabeth found Kentucky to be exact. And so my parents moved to Cincinnati, Ohio. And when I graduated and my granny let me go, I moved to Cincinnati, Ohio and went to school there. And then how long after that did you decide you needed to go back to school for more advanced degrees?

I didn't pause. I went directly from my undergraduate degree to my master's degree. I was a kind of student and person who was kind of afraid that if I started to pause something might happen and I might not get back and back up on that horse again. And so I wanted to do it as much as I could, as quickly as I could.

After I finished my master's, I think I was like 23, something like that. I was very early eight. Then I caught and I was a clinical nurse specialist in the hospital psychiatric because I'm a psych nurse. It was then after I got married, had my children, had worked a little bit, that I was then ready to go back and get my doctorate.

And I did that about when I was 28. And I finished my doctorate when I was 31. That's very impressive. I think that's one of the things I know we've been working on is trying to get more nurses to go back to school and get their PhDs or their DNPs while they're young because so many of us have gone back but it's been later in our career.

So that's impressive that you were able to do it at a young age. What did you focus on in your PhD program? I was just curious. I'm a clinical psychologist.

So I focused, I was a psychiatric mental health nurse and I was taught by the great Pildegard Kepler at Rutgers and it never crossed my mind to do anything but psychiatry or psychology, something that resonated with me around helping people who were struggling with balancing themselves in terms of their mental health. So I became a licensed clinical psychologist and I still am to this day. So how do you maintain that? All your other accomplishments are busy work that I know you're involved in.

That's very impressive. Is that difficult to maintain? I don't think so. I love the psychology of what's going on with people, with families, with communities, with institutions and leadership has a lot to do with psychology.

It has a lot to do with understanding people and relationships and how we work together. And that's been sort of my bent is how do people work together and what stops us from working together. So a lot of that is leadership. It blends very nicely.

Well that's very impressive and as I was introducing you I was also very much aware of the fact that you have been really working in a variety of different settings and that's been one of the things we've been talking about on other shows is just the fact that nurses are in so many different places and really trying to have people understand the impact that nurses are having and so I think that's really, really exciting. Alright now this is all about nursing and I'm Dr. Joyce Bachelor. We're live on the B-Bim Global Network in Tune & Radio and it's time to take a short break.

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Ben Malone was telling us about why she decided to become a leader in nursing and the incredible impact she's been having and her specialization in psychiatric nursing has really been very, very important for her and helped her be successful and I'm just curious, you know, you are in a very distinguished position as the CEO of the National League for Nursing. How did you prepare yourself to be positioned for such a role? You know I think I have better hindsight than foresight and so looking back I can think of the sea that I was prepared going forward. It's very hard to see that you're being prepared for a role like this.

So I would think that working with in all of these various roles has helped me tremendously. I know a lot of people and that has been a fortunate thing in terms of relationship building and having colleagues who are in various professional groups all across the nation and really worldwide. So it's been a journey. I had no idea I was headed in this direction.

The National League for Nursing used to send me tests all the time as a student and I had some very strong feelings about the National League for Nursing without all positive. And now to be, have the opportunity to be in a leadership role with it. I'm honored. I am overwhelmed with gratitude that I have this chance to actually lead this particular organization and I have a lot of colleagues who help me lead it.

So I figured out that I don't do anything by myself and my team is absolutely fantastic and I hope some of them are listening tonight so I can put them in the air and everyone will know that you don't do it by yourself. But I would say that I, you know, looking back, I would say I was being prepared for this role a long time ago when I was just a child and my great grandmother's me, you know, learning from her about how she works with people and how she never forgets those people that she works for. And the whole idea that you watch who you pass on your way up because they may be the same people that need to help you on your way down. That kind of mentality that we are all doing this together and that we owe each other all the time.

That was kind of my background and the other thing is I am very religious. I am a Baptist and I am a good Baptist. Most of the time I am a good Baptist. So that has always been a part of my life.

It has always been part of my calling about who I am and what I do and how I move forward and how I believe in miracles. And I believe that part of being CEO for the National League for Nursing is nothing short of a miracle for this little kid who came out of Elizabeth Towne, Kentucky to now be managing the organization that used to harass her and just test all kinds of things for her. So I am very excited and very happy to be here. But I would think I am going to hit three major roles that I think really kicked it off.

And one is being president of the American Nurses Association. I would say that was a really important role in order to do what I am doing now. It had all 50 states and three territories. I had to travel.

I had to get to know a lot of people. And then I would say the next role was deputy assistant secretary for health. And that was at the federal level. And my goodness, that taught me a lot.

And then the overseas trip to London, to the UK really. And running an organization that had over 400,000 nurses in it. And was an amazing opportunity to fine turn and hone my skills and learn how to manage my own anxiety and what to do with it. So all of those built bridges and roads and pathways for me to get to be the CEO for the National League for Nursing.

And like I said, I can look back and see it so clearly and look forward and say I never had an idea of how I was going to do that. You bring up a really important point that several people on other shows have brought up, which is you've got to be involved in the professional organizations. You've got to have mentors. You need to make sure that you develop relationships with key people.

And it sounds like you did a really great job being able to build that kind of community of colleagues that you could really call upon. And do you have someone that stands out in your mind as one of the best mentors or person that gave you some of the best advice? I have a slew of mentors. I've been mentored every since I was a child or four.

So my great-grandmother, I consider her to be my mentor. And then I had a teacher in school who used to meet me in the town square and look at my report card and give me a dollar if I made straight A's. After I graduated from middle school, she would still continue all through high school to meet me. Mentors, you know, and then I had a wonderful, of course, Syldegarite Pepla, who is the mother of psychiatric nursing, was one of my mentors.

I count Tony Blair in as one of my mentors. I learned a lot from the prime minister. I count Mr. Clinton and Mrs.

Clinton as part of that group of people. And you know, it's not like that they were counseling me on a regular basis. It's just that I was watching them. And Dr.

Shalala, who was Secretary of Health, and Tat Daeon, who worked at one time with one of our strong senators, Senator Inouye. So, and Senator Inouye was one of my mentors also. So I mean, one of my psychology colleagues, Dr. Edward Klein, who taught me so much about groups and how you work with groups.

So I have just been inundated with mentors. And if I can use the term blessed with mentors, they have been fantastic. And it's made me a better mentor. You can't receive all of that without wanting to give some of it back.

And I think that's another piece of how you get to this kind of position, is you have to turn around and give back. That's really great. I think that's a very important point that you're bringing up. And right now, we are coming to you live in the Event Global Network and Tune in Radio for the All About Nursing Show and I'm Dr.

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Joyce Bachelor in All About Nursing. We're live on the BeeBend Global Network and tuning radio. Before the break, Dr. Malone was telling us about the incredible mentors that she's had the opportunity to work with as well as the fact that wanting to then give back to others.

And I think as we work with young nurses and young people in general, it's important to really find mentors to help you along the way as well as be open to what your mentors have to say. Because that's a very important part. I always tell people feedback is a gift. Sometimes it's harder to receive than other times, but it's really, really, very important.

So thank you for sharing all of that. What I'd really like to do now is maybe really help us as an audience understand exactly what does the National League for Nursing do? If you could share that, be great. Yes.

The National League for Nursing, belovedly known as the NLN, is really an organization for faculty, for educators, nurse educators in particular. The idea is that if you don't know whatever the subject or theory is, you can't teach it. If you haven't been up on the latest what's happening technologically and digitalized, you can't then share that with the students. So it's to keep faculty developed.

Nursing is a lifelong learning process. And when you understand that and being a teacher, it becomes even more lifelong learning because you have the responsibility of sharing knowledge and information and passing it along so that those students can become nurses who provide quality care to patients. It doesn't get better than that. That's our role.

That's what the league does. But then we have, I'm so pleased with, we have a mission statement. So let me give that to you. Promotes excellence in nursing education to build a strong and diverse nursing workforce, to advance the health of the nation and the global community.

So within that wonderful mission statement, you'll hear that commitment is not just about preparing the student, but it's about making sure that that student does well once that student leaves the educational institution and gets into the real world of delivering care to people or to providing services to people. I think it is just a wonderful mission statement because so many times it's as if, oh, we just prepare the student. No, no, you've got to prepare the student for the realities of actually delivering the care. So I really love that mission statement.

But then we have four core values. And the first one is caring. You're not surprised. No, not surprised.

But that is promoting health, healing and hope in response to the human condition. And I love promoting health because you don't wake up people to get sick, to take care of them, to provide them with information and knowledge. And then health healing and I believe nurses are healers. They just put us on any bus and people will be drawn to us and that there's a healing substance, I think, that gets exuded from nurses just as we walk down the street.

Gallup Poll says that we're the top most trusted professional group in the United States. And I think that that's part of the healing, healing, healing piece that comes from nurses. And then hope. I think that you don't wait until someone comes to you and says, does anybody have any hope around here?

We have a transaction with a patient. You have the hope with you. Nurses carry hope. So promoting health, healing and hope in response to the human condition.

The second core value is integrity, respecting the dignity and moral wholeness of every person without conditions or limitations. That means we got everybody. I got you. As long as you breathe in, I got you.

And when you stop, I even have you. I think this is that integrity piece is so important. And then diversity, but it's not just diversity. It's diversity and inclusion affirming the uniqueness of and difference among persons, ideas, values and ethnicities.

So it's not just about race or color or any of that. It is about that, but it's bigger. It's about a difference of ideas. And I think that brings such a complex aura to the whole opportunity of sharing with someone, of interacting with someone and understanding that diversity has to have inclusion.

It's not enough just to count. You have to actually have a form of inclusion. And then the last one is excellence. And this is my favorite one.

Co-creating and implementing transformative strategies with daring ingenuity. I mean, if you're going to lead with some excellence, co-create and implement transformative strategies with daring ingenuity. So these are our four core values at the National League for Nursing that outline not just what we do, but how we do it. Whether or not we're staying within our core values, or are we falling off the back of the wagon and someone needs reminders, those are your core values.

Are you living up to those? To me, that is so critically important. Especially for teachers and educators, we show the way. We are the leaders.

We are the role models. We have to have some guidance ourselves. And values and a mission statement, they provide you with a way forward. An idea and understanding of where you are in this whole progression of trying to make a difference in the world.

You know, I've been, I'm newer to the faculty side of the world. I've spent most of my professional career on the practice side. And it's, I've always been curious how faculty stay up on current things. And when I had completed my DNP at Texas Tech, I was really going through withdrawal by not having access to their resources that they had on their internal system that the students use.

I know that the best articles and books and things were going to be posted as a faculty kept up on all of that. And so as time has gone by though, how do you really help the faculty stay current? Because the nursing has been changing like so much and we're going to continue to see a lot of changes. And maybe we can talk about this more after we have taken a short break.

So we're coming to you live and be able to go to the network and tune in radio. This is all about nursing show. Dr. Joyce Batchlin will be right back.

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Just prior to the break, I was starting to share that I've always been amazed at how faculty stay current and really was having some withdrawal when I finished my doctoral program thinking I was going to give up the access to all the amazing resources university had. I am now an adjunct professor. But when I started, I was also a little bit anxious thinking, I don't know everything that these students are going to work on because they come from so many different backgrounds and some advanced practice nurses, some work in role settings and just a lot of diversity in terms of what they were doing. And so it's been interesting to see that I learned as much from them as I hope I'm helping them to learn from me.

But it's a very big role that you have, Dr. Malone. So it's very impressive. I was curious, maybe you could tell us a little bit about what are the key issues that the National League for Nursing is working on?

Well, we're working on leadership. How about that? Since this is your topic for today in many ways, one of the big issues is how do you make sure that there are leaders out there? How do you develop them?

How do you mentor them? So we have a whole center on leadership. We're working on advancing the science of nursing education with an understanding that it's not enough to just teach and throw something on the wall and see if it's fixed. No, there's a scientific methodology to whether or not that information is valid, whether it can be relied on.

And that's one of the things that we do is make sure that information and knowledge is there, advancing the science of nursing education, which I kind of love. I think that's a great one to have. And then we also head in technology in amazing ways. And I'm sure in many ways I head in technology because I have colleagues within my shop who are so technologically sophisticated.

And they're doing the simulations and the safe places to do all kinds of new, interesting, innovative things. We're seeing now robots inhabiting the hospital, walking up and down the floors. There's a mixy down in Presbyterian Hospital in Texas, the first one at Presbyterian Hospital. And she's a blue little girl.

And it's amazing to see what she can do that takes so much of the work off nurses so that they can then in terms have more time to spend with patients. So all of these things are happening. And this is what the league is about. It's about making sure that our colleagues out there have all of this information, have all of this knowledge.

And it's also about making sure that in terms of the DNP, the doctor of nursing practice, and the PhD, that those different programs work together in a collaborative way. And how does nursing work with other providers? How do we work with our pharmacists colleagues? How do we work with our physician colleagues?

How are we going to put all this together to make sure that the patient gets the best in terms of the collaboration of all of the different groups? We're doing all of that. And of course we work with vulnerable populations, whether you're talking about to care, for folks who are leaving and transitioning and dying, or whether you're talking about children who are just happy to be here and ready to grow and how we can help. Do you value with weight loss?

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We're back on and Dr. Malore, maybe you could continue telling us about the key issues at the National League for Nursing is working on. You were telling us about leadership and the science of nursing leader education and you can go from there the robots that are being used. UT Austin actually has been the one that created the robot that's being piloted at Dallas Presbyterian here in Texas.

That's pretty exciting. Yeah, it is very exciting. So we're working with high-tech simulation, low-tech simulation. We are working with our colleagues overseas abroad because we have a global mission also.

So we're working with our colleagues in China, in Australia, in New Name it we're working with and what we're doing is we're bringing the best from there to here because we have so much we can learn from our colleagues abroad and we're giving the best we have to them also. So it's a mutually giving kind of situation where everybody wins. I think that that's been one of the things that I'd like most about the League is that it continues to provide information and knowledge to all. The other pieces I'm so pleased with are working with the vulnerable population.

So that means older adults, that means the babies, the teenagers, the vulnerable populations and the caregivers of those because we don't want to forget how it's hard to provide care on a daily basis and it takes a toll on those who are providing the care. So that's all part of what the NLN does. We just had our 125th anniversary celebration. We are 125 years old this year and we talked about our history and how we started with the oldest nursing organization in the US and we are looking for another 125 years of excellence.

Are you all looking at what's also going to be needed in terms of numbers of faculty? Because I know that I look around some days and get a little anxious when I see the number of faculty that potentially may be retiring on us in the wealth of educational, you know, the knowledge base and experience and wisdom that would be leaving us. So I was just curious if that's a piece of what you all are working on as well as how to get more people into the academic world. Well, one of the reasons that I'm on your show, Joyce, is to let everyone know what a wonderful opportunity it is to be an educator in nursing and to spread that wide and far.

And I think one of the best ways to do that is your program and how that gets the word out about what nursing education is really about and how exciting it can be and all of the joy that comes with it. I've been a practitioner for a long time like you've been a practitioner and there's a certain joy that comes from working correctly with patients. But colleagues out there, there's a special joy that comes from working with students who then turn around and work with patients. And you know you're touching more than just one patient, one family.

You are touching through your students a world of patients. It is incredibly exciting. So that's one of the primary things I would say and we all have to learn about of course. Everybody's getting older and we don't want to do this in harmony with each other.

Everybody walk out at the same time. We want to make sure that there are enough nurses to go around and set nursing now campaign that you probably have heard about and that came out of Lord Nigel Chris was the author of it and I used to work with Lord Nigel Chris when I was in England. He was the head of the NHS, the National Health Service. And now he's put together fantastically well an opportunity called nursing now.

And one of the things that they're trying to do is make sure there are enough nurses, not just in the United States, but all throughout the world there are enough nurses to make a difference. Because what we find of course, nurses really do make a difference. Absolutely. I've been impressed by some of the things that I've read about the nursing now initiative.

So from your perspective, how is it going? Are there things that we could be doing to help it? Well, we are as a matter of fact. I just met with some colleagues at the Tri Council for organizations, the American Nurses Association, the American Association of Colleges of Nursing, the American Organization of Nursing Executive and the National Week for Nursing.

And we even have a trial colleague organization with us, the National Council of State Boards of Nursing. So these organizations just came together to see how we could work with nursing now. I'm pretty excited about it because I believe there's a lot that can be done. It's about having nurses working at the top of their preparation, whether that's a license or a registration depending on your country.

But it's having nurses to be available and the accessibility to nurses. And I think that with the opioid crisis that's happening, accessibility to nurses, nurses, practitioners, but just to nurses can really make that difference. That's very exciting to hear. Is there some kind of a report that will be coming out soon?

I would assume your meeting was pretty recent. Is that correct? With the Tri Council? But it's really forming a nursing now group here in the United States because they already formed in the UK and Australia, I mean they're all over the world now.

And in the Avatar of course, and we had not had a formal one here in the United States. And so we came together to put that organizational piece together. And you'll hear more about it. Yeah, you'll hear more about it as it grows, as it matures, as an organization and starts to work with other organizations that are nursing now components or contingencies of that.

That's wonderful. I think that you touched on so many very important issues here this evening. I was curious if you had anything else that you would like to tell us about in terms of the National League for Nursing before we move on to a different topic area? Well, I want to say that I think it's such a unique organization that from being a student myself and having been sort of the recipient of so many of the National League for Nursing's tests and all those interesting things they've said to us when I was a student, so now being the CEO for the National League for Nursing, my goodness what a journey.

And that the National League for Nursing is there for nurse educators, but not just nurse educators. We really have room for our colleagues who are practitioners, our colleagues who are nurse administrators, other institutions we have. So we have a membership that can cover those who are interested in nursing education. And we found that that's not just folks who are nurse educators.

We have a foundation advisory group which I am so proud of that it's a group of a lot of the hospitals, the heads of those hospitals are part of the members of that. There are institutions that are working in other areas such as staffing that are part of that. And I'm just really very pleased with all of our advisory groups. We have a wonderful way of getting the best and the brightest involved with the National League for Nursing.

And I could not ask for more in that area. I'm just curious. You've had a phenomenal opportunity by working with other countries. I think that there's a lot that people obviously can learn from the United States.

But I think there's a lot we can learn from other countries. And are you finding that? And is that things that we're trying to then bring back and really have our own nursing leaders become much more aware of? You know, one of the things that I was thinking about was how education occurs in England and that there's much more of a, of a, of a, an apprentice kind of process for new nurses or really in other schools of working with nurses who are already in practice.

So if you were working a night shift, you would actually work the night shift with you. So it's a mentoring kind of thing, but it's like you called more a princess than mentoring. And that kind of teaching where you have the opportunity to watch another nurse work and to be with them and to feel like you're part of that. There's something very special about that.

So I see some of our colleagues use them. That's one of the things that I love about what we're doing now in the state is that it doesn't matter. Maybe it doesn't take you as long to do a course as it does others and how we can move you ahead when you're finished with that. That it's not about 12 months, 12 weeks in that program, that particular program.

It may take you only three weeks to do that program or it may take you 14 weeks. And I love the idea of that kind of learning that is based much more on your own speed and what you can do rather than just a standard, this one size, this all kind of effort. So I think all of that is happening within the United States and some of it has already happened in other places. That's very exciting.

I'm just curious too. I was impressed when you were talking about how you have people that have just amazing expertise and the technology. And there's a lot that I think as we get into artificial intelligence and machine learning and how that's going to impact the way that we teach and learn and practice in the future, which I don't think is that far off, is also something that I know I've been really trying to learn a lot more of because I've been very fortunate to work with a startup company here in Austin that's working on some artificial intelligence solutions. And if they can do what they say they can do, it's amazing.

And so I was just curious if that's some of what you also are thinking about and looking at and trying to figure out how we prepare ourselves for that. And I think right now we can continue to do that in just a few minutes. But this is all about nursing. I'm your host, Dr.

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That feels pretty good. Because the organization is big enough that we have policy people who do the advocacy and we have the simulation and technology people and artificial intelligence people who are working on those pieces too. That's wonderful. You've shared so many wonderful things with us this evening.

I was just curious. Is there an example of an accomplishment that you're just most proud of? I've been thinking about most proud because I've lived long enough that I have sectors of my life. In the sector, I've got something I'm really excited and very pleased about.

One of the ones that I remember that touches my heart every time is there was the issue of folks in Hawaii not having a rehab center in Hawaii. I was working for Senator Inouye, the senator from Hawaii. He was a major with my boss. He told me to go get a rehab center for Hawaii.

I had no idea how one does that. I went over to the rehab department and they told me they didn't have any money. I remember going back to Pat and explaining to him that there was no money for a rehab center. He said, let's go see if he's lying.

He went over to the budget area. He said, look, he's actually lying. We are going to make sure that there's a rehab center in Hawaii. Every time that I go to Hawaii and I see that particular rehab center, I think about, that's my baby.

That's part of what I'm just able to accomplish along with my colleagues. But oh, it does make one feel good. Tap something where people can use it where it can make a difference in the lives of other people. That's a wonderful example.

I think it really does portray a lot of what we've been trying to do on the different shows that we've had is to really demonstrate the impact nurses have. They work in so many different parts of the whole continuum of care. You've certainly given us a lot of wonderful insights about how it's important to really be able to educate people that are going to be able to really carry forth the kinds of things we need going forward. Because when I look back at you to this evening, I just think nursing was just so different when I first started practicing.

I can't even imagine what it's going to be like in five, 10, 15 years from now. Is there anything else that you would like to share with the audience or almost at the end of our show and I would just like to give you that opportunity? There's nothing like being a nurse. I encourage everybody to try it.

You will like it. That's awesome. I think that's a perfect way for us to end. So you are listening to all about nursing life and the BBM Global Network and Tune In Radio.

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