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It might be, maybe. But I was thinking about the concept of the slow burner, Sean. I thought you were gonna say shorting month. I thought you were gonna say shorting month.
Short month? Short month is a great idea. Are there other movies with shorts? It's like where you almost, it was almost a mess, but then we saved it at the last minute, you know?
Short month. Short week? I guess we could make this short week. Short week, short week.
Love it. It's short week here on the Rewatchable. So there's Cult Favorites, which is kind of the foundation of the Rewatchables. Escape from New York, Swinger, Shotcaller, Identities.
Hey, Shotcall episode A plus. Thank you. One of my favorites in a long time. Not everyone loves proof of life.
Not everyone loves proof of life. Eight millimeter. Eight millimeter. Yeah, Cult Favor.
Yeah, Cruzin. Yeah. For a certain kind of person. Along came Polly is not a Cult Favorite because it made a lot of money.
It was a big hit. So I was thinking, but it was critically, it came out. There was stiller fatigue. There was Aniston fatigue.
But it was a Cult Favorite that also made money. So I was thinking this is a new category called Slow Burner. Okay, okay. Slow Burners.
Mindy Vice the movie. Made money when it came out. But people were like eh. And then as I got to know Chris Ryan, early 2010s, I kind of like to buy advice.
I do too. Well, he does. And by 2016, we're like, we got to do a podcast. Go fast boats together straight to Cuba.
So I married an ex-murder. I think it's a slow burner. Good one. Well, but not respected.
Definitely. But then grew. Hardball with Keanu Reeves. See, we've done all these on the rewatchables.
Came out, people were like, what the hell? Keanu's smoking and he's gambling. This is like, I just put on the Bill Simmons sunglasses. Like, and they live.
Yeah, see the world through your eyes. You know, this is how you see movies. The Slow Burner sunglasses. Limitless with Bradley Cooper.
Good one. Yeah. They'd really well, but nobody took it seriously. And people were like, this movie's incredible.
You're describing movies that seem like you can write them off when they are released, whether they're successful or not. But when you dive into them, there's a lot there. There's a lot of meat on the bone. Are they citizen cane?
No, they're definitively not citizen cane. But they're kind of great in their own unique mediocre way. I don't even think I saw a long cane poly in the theater. And I don't really even remember when I first saw it.
But Hoffman was the thing that jumped out of it. And as the years passed, and it was 20 years. It's actually 20 year anniversary of this movie. It was a January.
We missed it. And the fact that... That was the parade. We did a parade in Times Square.
Yeah, it was huge. It was incredible. The fact that Hoffman was just so great in this. And it's such like a special unique Hoffman performance.
Turn this movie into something else. And now it's like almost a classic, which is crazy. Cause it's like a generic Ben Stiller rom-com for the most part with this insane Philip Seymour Hoffman performance in it. Yeah, I think it's a solid comedy of its era that happens to have basically rocket fuel inside of it in the form of film Seymour Hoffman.
And I wonder if we would have seen it in quite the same way if he hadn't tragically died when he did. And because now you look at like every Hoffman performance and you're like, what can we cherish about this? What do we overlook about this? Why didn't we celebrate this in telling the way that we deserve to?
But he's doing something that he almost never really did again. Which was just like pure broad studio comedy. Like he really did not do very much about it. He's often funny in movies, but from the very first moment you see him in this movie, he's doing a pride fall.
Like he's doing a fairly brother's gag. And so, you know, this is the one time and you can really lift him up and be like, he could have been also Jim Carrey if he wanted to be. Well, you're the world's preeminent Phil Hoffman expert. Am I?
You've done an entire Phil Hoffman podcast. I've written about him. No, but I think you've, a lot of people loved him including me, but I think you probably loved him the most. He was my favorite actor.
I think one of the things I love about this movie is, it's the equivalent of, I don't know, if you took LeBron James in 2013 and you just put him on a college basketball team for like 10 minutes stretches. But it'd be like, if you put him on a college football team. You know, like it's not, because it's true, you're right. If this isn't like, if he's just a wide receiver and he was like the best wide receiver in college football and you're like, what?
So he's basically doing this part that has existed in rom-coms for the entire time we've had rom-coms. And in a different universe, it's a Jack Black part, right? I wonder if they even thought about him for this part. Yeah, he's probably the second call if they couldn't get off him.
Penn Siller did a movie with Jack Black in this same year actually, movie called Andy. Right. Gal Fenakis in the Hangovers, another example of this by it's being the part. This is the most over-qualified, I think an actor can be for a movie.
Like it would be like, if you just put him in scream in the David R. Kep part. And it's like, here's Philip Seymour Hoffman as what was that character's name? Who's got slightly been there?
Randy. No, what was the screen character's name, Craig? I don't know. Binky?
Scream. Is that something? The David R. Kep part?
Oh, the David R. Kep part. Dewey. Dewey.
It's like, if Philip Seymour Hoffman was Dewey, we'd be like, this is weird. But he did this a few times in his career, which is one of the cool things about his career. Like he's just in twister randomly. He's the prep school kid and son of a woman.
He's got E.J. Boogie Nights. For some reason, he's, then you flip the other side. He's in Magnolia with like the, kind of the most nothing part in the movie, but makes the most of it.
And this just seemed like what drove him. I just wanna do this weird part, this weird part. You get the impression, I mean, a lot of those roles you just mentioned were when he was still trying to make it as a movie actor. You know, like a twister, he's still coming up.
He's not a character actor. You have people who don't even know who he is. At this point in his career, he's pretty established as Philip Seymour Hoffman. You know, it's, it's, I'm not sure how much of this was for the money and how much of it was that he liked movies like this.
And you know, we know like, for example, his buddy Paul Thomas Anderson loves Adam Sandler, loves broad studio comedies, you know, like that's some of his favorite stuff. You can imagine them bonding over movies like this. So the chance to get to do a movie like this is not that surprising. I mean, two years later, he's an emotional possible movie.
Same thing. It's like they put a battery in the back of that movie by putting the world's greatest actor in a villain part. So he had a, he had a good sense of how to use his tools in mainstream stuff. Yeah, he, because he does Red Dragon in O2, which was one of his first, this feels like slightly like a paycheck role.
Yeah, but he's still good. Yeah. Maybe two years he would do one of those. So he does, along came Polly, which he turns into more than a paycheck.
I think it's probably one of his most beloved movies. He walks away with the movie. Yeah. Mission Impossible 3.
And then ironically, it all is the last two movies on his IMDb or Hunger Games movies, which even in the Hunger Games, he jumps out of every scene. 100%. He has the greatest character name of all time in that movie. Plutarch Heavens, which I fucking love.
I've always loved that name. And yeah, he's, it's a much more controlled performance that last one and it is exactly what we're talking about where he's like, I'm sure the money was good for that one. It's a huge franchise. It was like a conclusion of that franchise.
Really important part, he's like a game maker, but it's weird that that's how things ended for him. You know, somebody who was in so many great movies, but doing a very similar thing, always playing very rarely at the center, always just left of center to the leading man. Yeah. Well, this one, he comes in, he falls down, he's eating wet and cake icing.
And just immediately it's the movie I want to be with the whole time. And then he just kind of pops in and out. It's like Paul George in a Quipper's playoff game. I believe you.
It's like Paul George, just jumping in your lap, going to the garage. It's like a cat in this movie. Oh, he's back. Oh my God, the funniest person of the year is back.
I love Sandy Lyle. So we have, I'm really curious why he wanted to do this. And there's been a lot of interviews. The director, John Hamburg, has given a few interviews because one of the things that happened with this movie is the basketball scenes.
As YouTube hit, they became a YouTube thing. Then it became Instagram, Twitter. Then it became TikTok. It's just whatever social media form, just him firing shots gets a backboard and screaming.
Why chocolate? Just like his bat, it's just gonna live on and on and on now. I think there's just like something incredibly recognizable about that character. The guy who's just like, I'm a baller for real.
My shirt is too tight. And I'm screaming on the pick up court about how good I am and I suck. I just absolutely suck. So it can be applied to like when, you know, I don't know, James Harden throws up a two for 17 and if I help him, you know, exactly.
So I think it's like applicable all the time. You know, something that I said about Hoffman when I did that pod earlier this year is like, he kind of is like an athlete or like a dancer in movies though. Like, you're looking at like, it sounds like Mr. Ripley when he first shows up and he drives up, he hops out of the car and he runs towards the restaurant.
Like he had kind of like a grace. He had like a dancers grace to him. So even in this comic part where he's being a bad athlete, he's kind of mesmerized. He's definitely not a bad athlete.
You can see him move, he can run around, like he played baseball and he wrestled as a kid. But you can see he's, he knows how to handle it. It's Chris Farley-esque. Very much, very much.
He's got like a grace in all of his clumsiness. I mean, Belushi is the most famous for that because Belushi was like really good athlete and they always tried to leverage it into SNL sketches and other stuff he did. But yeah, it's funny how some of the best comic performances or performers, the physicality and the athleticism is such a big piece of that. I mean, Jim Carrey, there's this SNL account that I like where they show the old sketches.
They had one where, remember that night of the Roxbury sketch they used to do and they would be at the bar and Jim Carrey's in it and he comes out and his head starts doing like. I remember this. His head's like going over here and there and it's just like, he was just such an incredible, I don't even know if that's athleticism. He was like the Bo Jackson of physical comedy.
You know, he could do anything. There wasn't nothing could stop him. Because I think that's probably the best SNL ever. I remember that way.
What was it for like Truman Show of the Majestic or I can't remember what, maybe Man on the Moon. Man on the Liar Liar. Liar Liar, okay, yeah. Yeah, he does the Lifeguard sketch with Will Ferrell because Will Ferrell was big at that point and then Carrey came in and just blew it away.
Anyway, we're getting carried away with that. The Hoffman has it and, you know, I'm glad he did it. It kind of made me whistle that he didn't do more comedy. I consider Scotty Jay even though Boogie Knight said some of the most serious moments, but when we did the Boogie Knight's pod, we talked about how fucking funny Scotty Jay was.
Yeah, I mean, sometimes he's really funny in a movie on purpose. Like he's really funny in town too, just to riply. Yeah, yeah. How's the peep end and all that?
Like he knows what he's doing there. He's really funny and alive and almost famous. He's on fire in Punch Runk Love as Mattress Man. Yeah, you know, with the shut, shut, shut, shut, shut, like he's really, but after like in the 2000s, most of his stuff is quite serious.
Like, connect to King of New York and doubt and he's a really grave guy. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah. I haven't revisited that one lately.
What are you doing? Are we doing that on a rock bottom month part two? Rock bottom month. Granted bottom month.
Well, he's also in happiness, which was a runner up for rock bottom month. Kind of a funny movie though, but like in the most fucked up way imaginable. I called the producers of happiness when we decided on the lineup for rock bottom month. And I'm like, sorry guys, it's not you.
This is just the lineup we had. You did nothing wrong? Sorry Todd's alone. Yeah, in a number of you guys could have made it.
Sorry Dylan Baker. Yeah. So this will be Hoffman's seventh rewatchable. Really?
We've done send of a woman boogie nights, talented Mr. Ripley, magnolia, 25th hour, long came Pauline Moneyball. Pretty good. And what's crazy?
You can argue he might end up with five more on the roster. Hold now for the master. Almost famous. Almost famous.
When will that be? It's probably the last episode. Okay. Twister.
We should do the summer. Big Lebowski. You know there's another twister. I'm all right.
Okay. Big Lebowski. We've done that. You weren't on it.
Did we do it? Yeah. I think it was. Are you sure we did it?
Me, CR, Concepcion and Shoemaker. We did it. So he's been in eight rewatchables. You forgot about my patch out of a solo episode.
Patch Adam's. My wife and I, we always used to joke about that. I'm called Patch Adam. It's such a bad movie.
Mission Impossible 3. Did we do that one? No, we did not do that one. I think we only done two Mission Impossible.
The master and happiness. So eight put some near the, he might be top 10 now for most rewatchables movies. I was thinking about. Yeah.
Who else is that? Well, Cruz is 15 now. I was thinking the 10 movie club is kind of our equivalent of the five-timers club for us and all of us. Yeah.
You get the 10 rewatchables movies you've had a special career. We can get Denzel to come on in here. Sit down. He would definitely not do that.
And he refused to talk about, I don't talk about my old movies. Let's talk about the next. What if we did like the bone collector to celebrate him coming in though? We did just come in a bed.
But back to slow burner month. Why do you think it happens that way? Like movies that actually did well and made money, but then something shifts and they become a thing. Well, in this case, we know it was Hoffman.
Is it have to be like just a unique thing about the movie? What is it? I mean, there's so much to talk about with this movie contextually because there were five been stiller movies this year. And it was that evidence of what kind of a time it was in Hollywood when this is Craig's hobby horse.
Just like, why do we not have more studio comedies? At this time, we were cranking them out. There were so many of them. And it also dovetails with a kind of DVD dorm room culture where I think movies like this really succeeded.
It's also doubles as a date movie. So you can watch this with your girlfriend. Yeah. It's also the rise of YouTube.
So you put all that stuff in a stew. And if you want to just watch Hoffman cook, you can just watch Hoffman. If you want to watch this movie with your girlfriend, you can watch this on the couch at home. If you want to go to the funny movie on a Friday night, like this is kind of the top of your list.
If you're a movie girl at this time because it's kind of something for everyone. And you get to go to St. Bart's says, you know, I like going on location with my travels. If you're a fan of Hank Azaria's abs, we've got that, you know, there's some stuff on offer here.
I'll say this. In 2004, I don't feel like it was as big of a deal that Hoffman had this part was in this movie. And I think it was really fun to have him in it. But I think the legend grew with him year by year.
And partly the legend grew because the movies he was in became so rewatchable, you know, everyone was like, this guy's great, right? He was in this guy's great territory, basically from late 90s on, but I think late 2000s range, it started to go up a level. And then obviously when he died that, but when somebody dies, that pushes people's appreciation of the work to a different stratosphere. Well, I mean, literally the next movie that he makes is Capote and he wins Best Act.
And so that I think pretty significantly alters how we consider him because he was the kind of guy who like hardcore movie fans and, you know, people who really were in acting and he's a big Broadway performer too. I saw him in True West years before this, like with John C. Riley, actually it might have been 04. I can't remember what year it was when I saw him.
It might have been the same year. And he just blew everyone's mind. Like he blew everyone's mind 10 years later in death of a salesman. Like he, people who were fans were hardcore fans, but Capote, I think because he had that long run of Oscar campaigning and then eventually won, consecrated him in a way.
And then after that, everything he did was kind of like, what's what would be the next great film or hop and performance? And he kind of defied expectations, you know, he kind of reverted back to I do supporting parts. He didn't do a lot of movies where he was the center. And if he did, it was usually a very small movie, an independent movie and not a mainstream studio movie.
So I think people came to appreciate along came Polly and what he did in it even more so after the fact because they were like, wow, the guy who played Truman Capote did the sharding movie. You know, like that's range. It'd be like Daniel Day Lewis and that part. Exactly.
Best actor previous, best actor winners could have played Sandy Lyle. That's a good game. And the good Frederick March played Sandy Lyle, I say no. Yeah.
You start getting into like Adrian Brody, Pacino. We start going through. Pacino. I love that.
Pacino is Sandy Lyle. Right. Drop. The basketball would have been tough for him.
Well, you mentioned this weird era. There were too many bands that were movies. And I think that was one of the things that hurt this movie. He was just too omnipresent.
Always playing Ben Stewart. Yes. Yeah. He has a comic persona.
And it's the person in this movie. It's the person. There's something about Mary. And just uptight guy.
I like it. I like to meet the parents. Same thing. And Aniston is basically the same person in every movie.
She just changes her hair. And I think that something about when this movie came out, it was like, ah, really these two. Like we're already kind of all getting tired of the two of them as personas, which is why the Hoffman piece is so important. But as the years pass and neither of them, you know, so they wouldn't make that many more rom coms.
He did like a heartbreak hit and maybe like one or two more. And then, you know, yeah, you're right. He doesn't do a lot of, I mean, he went on to do a lot of interesting movies, but he went away from this formula. He veered away from this.
But I think as the years pass it, that part is more tolerable than maybe it was in 04. When you put out five movies in here, that's just a suicide mission. Nobody wants that. Yeah.
It seems like it was kind of luck and circumstance and a variety of things that factored into it. But I mean, he didn't just put out five movies in here. He was this, actually he was in six movies this year, and he was the star of four of them, like the star, a long game poly, Starskin hutch, envy, dodgeball, and meet the fuckers. All and that's in here.
Plus he does a little bit of art in here. Yeah. And so. And Starskin hutch was a big ass movie.
There was real excitement about it, but yeah, it's just, this was the comedy boom. I think he's a little bit of a, um, I would say like a black liquorish guy where, you know, like, I, I can't eat black liquorish. Like I put it in my mouth and I'm like, there's something poisonous about this. I thought it was poisonous.
I don't know. Yeah. I really like black liquorish and some actors or actresses are like black liquorish for people where they take a bite and I'm like, oh, I worked for a guy at a magazine years ago. It was just like, we will never feature Ben Siller in our magazine.
I find him incredibly annoying, which I always thought was really funny because I was like him. Like, I liked his TV show that he had. I like a lot of these movies. I thought he's amazing and there's something about Mary.
His persona always works for me, but it comes from like a legendary comedy family. He goes on to make like a great, you know, tropics under like really great comedy classics, but I always keep that in the back of my head that for some people, they're just like, he's not for me. Yeah. There's something about Mary's 98.
He rips off, meet the parents, Zoolander, Royal Tana bombs, along King Paulie Starskin Hutch, Anchorman and Dodgeball in the same year, meet the fuckers, heartbreak kid, Tropic Thunder. That's all in 10 years plus a bunch of other movies that he did too. There's something about Mary is hanging over this movie too because that launches the R-rated comedy boom. There's some DNA from that movie in this movie.
Like there's another bathroom scene with Ben Siller. We're in the bathroom with him with something embarrassing happening and it's kind of the tail end of the R-rated comedy and then we start moving into the Apatow version of it. This is like the, we're at the tail end of a 1.0 version of this and the Apatow becomes 2.0. Yeah.
And he always kind of operated alongside those guys but not totally with them. Yeah. Which I was kind of fascinating. His career after this is really interesting.
Like he keeps making Night of the Museum movies and he does some franchise stuff, does Zoolander too. He does a few movies with no bomb back. But do you remember the last time he headlined a movie? Well he was directing too, right?
He did the prison thing that Chris and I love this game from Dana Mora. He did this game from Dana Mora and he does severance now. Yeah. That's he directs and severance.
Both of those shows are great. Yeah. He hasn't really toplined a movie since 2017 in the Meyerwood stories in the bomb back movie. So it's been seven years since he was the star movie.
Wow. That's pretty crazy for somebody who at one time, I think he could credibly say it was one of the 10 leading men in Hollywood. We made a lot of money. Tropic Thunder was his probably biggest, most ambitious swing.
It's great. And it was a huge success. Yeah. Really funny.
I had a really cool, original, unique movie. Craig's generation doesn't like it. Craig's triggered by it. I thought you were triggered by Tropic Thunder.
Don't put that on me. Triggered month? Triggered month. No, Tropic Thunder is amazing.
Aniston's movie career. Yeah. And it wasn't going well until 03. She had not made a $100 million movie until 2003.
And then it just blows up. She's Bruce Almighty. That makes 485. Paulie makes 17.
That was entirely chalked up to her too. She was on the poster. She's at least front and center. Hey, listen, man.
She's got you pippin' in that movie. You sure? Paulie, the breakup, 206. She's Marley and me.
Just not into you. The bounty hunter. Just go with it. Horrible bosses.
Wear the Miller. So she has a decade of she's a bankable A-plus-less actress for comic movies, which I was not sure. It was looking a little dodgy when she was in rockstar. They were like, I don't know if this is going to happen.
It felt a little friends might have overtaken her. She's just Rachel and people can't accept her. She's good in office space. Very good.
Very funny. But that's, again, these are all kind of girlfriend parts. And it takes along came Polly for her to get out of the girlfriend parts in a way. She did do a couple of smaller, like the good girl.
She's really good in the good girl, which is like an indie that she was doing. I think it's a great guy of Rachel. The thing that is notable about this, I think, is that this movie is the last movie that she made while friends was still on. Wow.
And it was right as Brangelina's in the works. We're on the way towards Mr. and Mrs. Yeah.
We're on Friends is Over. And then all of a sudden she becomes an even bigger star. And then the movie started hitting and somehow becomes a bigger star than she was in Friends. Yeah.
She picked a couple of really good projects. I think the breakup was really smart to make the movie called The Breakup after Mr. and Mrs. Smith was very smart.
Also a movie we all thought we were going to like and it was just missing something. Not a huge fan. I think it's a grim two hours. I've struggled with her a little bit.
I'm friends. I'm like, this is one of the great characters we were just mesmerized by her in the 90s. You know, we were interested in her every move. As a movie actor, I wish she was always given a little bit more to do.
This movie is kind of an interesting mix though. Like, it obviously is a classic, opposites attract set up and they have chemistry. Like they work together. So I think the movie really lives and dies on scenes like the stabbing the pillow scene, you know, where you're like, yeah, I feel their connection and I want to hang out with these people because that's what this kind of movie is.
It's interesting. I'm zagging on you a tiny bit. I didn't totally feel it. Really?
Yeah. It's like, do you see those two people together? I guess is my question. Well, that's what Roger Ebert says.
He's like, I'm not sure if I buy this. You're not sure if you buy the two people. Yeah. I like them together.
I felt like they seem like they liked each other in real life seem like they had some energy together. Some like people who would date for a while and then decide they should be best friends. Yeah. You know, another weird thing about this that is sort of related is he goes on to make the Harper Kid remake, right, which is kind of the same movie.
Yeah. It's like a movie about a newly married couple that goes on a vacation and then they break up on their, their honeymoon. Right. It's very strange that he did this twice.
And it's with Billions, with Alan Ackerife. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
She was your favorite actress of the year Billions debut. Right. Felt bad. Always felt bad criticizing her, but that character just didn't work.
You won't even look in the eye when you say that. I won't. I was looking up. I forgot to do Raj for this.
That's okay. I'm helping out. No, Raj was two stars. Yeah.
He didn't love it, but weirdly. Well, he, he notes Hoffman. He's like, I'll tell you what I did like about this movie, Philip Seymour Hoffman. It's like the second to last graph of the review.
Yeah. Uh, I did like Philip Seymour Hoffman and Sandy Ruben's best man. Uh, yeah. He's enough.
Folks. He grew up. Anything else. Anything else.
Listen, the story of this movie isn't really up Raj's alley, you know, it's not the best on broad comedy Raj over the years. No. You know, we talked about this on the Tommy boy up with, uh, with Sal. You know, you know, you didn't get it.
It's okay. You didn't get it. Sometimes you missed. You missed.
Although he probably is no Tommy boy. Where does your generation stand on Ben Siller? Craig. I think all of the most popular Ben Stiller roles in our minds are the character spots that he played.
Like when I think of Ben Stiller, I think of Happy Gilmore. Like I like Ben Stiller when he goes weird. I think straight men Ben Stiller. You know, it's fine.
Well, your fingers hurt. Yeah. That's like the best role ever. You're going to need to warm glasses.
Shut the hell up. We also, he did the best cruise impression. His impression of cruise was the best celebrity impression. Maybe of that.
Like weird stiller. Better than just like classic straight man. Yeah. But he's the best at that.
Yeah. He does this movie. I don't remember if we've ever talked about him in The Rewatchables. Friends and Neighbors.
Oh yeah. With Jason Patrick. Absolutely. You got Neil Le Butte.
Yeah. Yeah. And it's one of the most fucked up late 90s movies. I don't know what theme month we would be doing it for in The Rewatchables, but it would be like a definite fucked up one.
Yeah. Castration month. Right. Castration month.
Right. Castration month. But he's in that. And it felt like there's, I always felt, and I have no evidence of this, that deep down Ben Stiller just wanted to be like a weird indie dramatic actor.
And you know, do those kind of movies. Like in an alternate universe, it could have been him instead of Adam Driver and Marriage Story. Yeah. I mean, look at his big breakthrough as a movie person is directing reality bites.
I mean, that's really who he is is like, and the, you know, that movie is such an interesting blend of like kind of movie stardom and these very attractive beautiful people doing cool things, young cool things, but also has that like odd edginess and a little bit of like a Gen X dissatisfaction with the world and like I think him doing the Bound Back movies later in his career, is it kind of a testimony to how he sees the world, like the Greenberg, Meyerwood stories and what's the one in between while we're young, those three movies are all like almost him getting movie stardom out of his system. Greenberg especially, that was one where you could film going for it. Yes. Do you like that movie?
It's interesting. I think it's a really good movie about how some people react to Los Angeles, you know, like some people are just, it's kind of how black, it could be a black liquor city sometimes or some people. This movie was written and directed by John Hamburg, who also did, I love you man in 2009 that I'd really like. Should also be a rewatchable.
I randomly, I met Paul Red a couple weeks ago and we were talking about a bunch of stuff and I asked him about, I love you man, and I was like, what's the reaction of that movie now? And he's like, oh, people like that movie now. But I was like, but it didn't do that well. Like it was all right.
Didn't do great. But it was another example of like, sometimes the clusters with comedies, they can just come out at the wrong time. Yeah. You know what I mean?
I'm slapping the bass man. That's like burned into my brain. I think a lot of movies we're talking about here, like if you saw it when you were like 11, it stays with you forever. Yeah.
That is the timing. What conversation for me? I just saw it when I was 11. It doesn't matter what happens with the rest of my life.
I always think that movie is funny. Yeah. I think that's an example of a movie that a lot of people saw when they were 11. I'm like, I love that movie.
I'm holding onto that movie forever. That comes out. It was just kind of the right time for a movie like that. Yep.
And it was marketed perfectly. It's totally watchable. It hits every checkpoint. And now I feel like it's a movie.
My daughter's probably going to watch 12 times. It's almost bad. Well, that's the thing. It's not a great movie.
No, it's not. But it came along at the right time and had the right conceit and had the right stars in it. And now it'll kind of last probably, which is weird because it's not that good. I'm really hopeful that that that movie and the fall guy and a couple of other movies that are happening right now are like slowly easing us back into the era when they were just at our fingertips all the time.
I feel like audience is being excited about anyone but you is very exciting whether or not that movie is any good. I don't think it's that great. You did. We're taping this before the weekend.
You're doing the fall guy for a big picture. Yeah. You should have brought me on for two minutes. Okay.
To discuss how important Heather Thomas and Marky post were in the context of the 80s. Next time. I mean, the four is yours. Yeah.
We can cut it into the episode. Two hugely important people of the 80s. At the risk of spoiling anything about the fall guy, maybe Heather Thomas makes an appearance. Oh, that sounds great.
I'll be there. Did you see the fall guy? I'll see that in the theater. We're going to take a break.
What are those things called? I don't know. He's the squirters. And he's like, give it to me.
And the guy's just squirting wedding. I sing. Hey. Aren't you that kid from crocodile tears?
That's right. I'm standing awhile. Man, I saw that movie in high school. That bagpipe scene.
That was a funny shit, man. You can sign up in that picture. You want to autograph? No, thanks.
It's good to see you, man. I thought you died like 15 years ago. Ah, nah. I'm very much alive.
My friend. I've been doing on stage acting. Getting back to my roots. I'm going to eat you high with story on me.
So they're really doing one of those shows about your life. Within the first few minutes, you're like, all right. Phil Hoffman's going to do anything he can. No matter how disgusting it is.
He calls for it. He calls for it. Yeah, you know immediately. You want an autograph?
No, I'm good. Thanks. You're the kid from crocodile tears. Yeah.
And then we also get to see Ruben doing his wedding risk assessment. It's just a really strong four minutes. We get a wedding. Then all of a sudden, here comes out Baldwin.
He's kind of doing his departed character. I'm obsessed with that one. You want to save this for later? Sure.
Yeah, a lot of thoughts. So we got that scene. We have after, unless you want to count him walking in a Debra Messing, getting railed by Hank Azaria on the boat. I think there's something perversely entertaining about the entire, uh, Hank Azaria introduction and like watching Debra Messing's eyes in those scenes where she's just like, I want to bone this guy.
The second he shows up. I enjoyed that. I like when, uh, when after the first of all, the scuba things hit in the side of the boat as lawyers. But then when they're on land and her hair is like completely fucked up and she's like, I'm going through something.
She just looks like she'd had like the craziest sex ever. And this is also at the height of Willing Grace too, you know? She was a big star at the time. I was a big star from TV.
Yeah. She's good in this. But that seems fun. When his, he backs the car backwards, but then the next cut is him, Hank Azaria driving in the airport and he just told me angrily, um, Ruben goes back to work and pees with the Nursky.
I have his the next relatchable scene. I will fire this one up on YouTube every once in a while. Yeah. There's a great fart.
He's dials up next to me. There's like that longest P. She's a dime store hooker and she always will be heard about you. Honeymoon.
Just terrible. I knew that girl was a slut the second. I met it. Yeah.
Well, you know, it's kind of complicated. I mean, don't make excuses. You always won't be. Just going to be like you.