I know now that the podcast we hold back is the only pain that follows us here. It's a good trip. Thank you. It's about to say just.
I mean, this, that's why I went for that. Look, it was a little more Crippendorf than always. It was a little, how many times will we be saying Crippendorf? I'm going to do a general sentence season, right?
So I talked about this in another episode recently, Richard. I did a triple feature of Disney's, a triple horn, Walt Disney Pictures 90s, a culturally problematic comedy, General to General. Jungle to Jungle. Crippendorf's tribe.
And the third one is Arab there, Man of the House. The Arab there is kind of too culturally sensitive to make. Crippendorf's tribe makes the Arab there. Look, it's Margaret Mead's the Arab there.
But the sneaky one is Man of the House, which is Chevy Chase tries to bond with Jonathan Taylor Thomas, who is the son of Ferra Fosse. Right. I have a lot of the camp. It's like a weekend, like quote unquote Indian group, where it's all like George Wentz explaining the principles of the Native Americans.
And Chevy Chase being gross. But Crippendorf is the. Speaking of series, the peak of American culture. Speaking of series, this is your set, the second film in your half series.
Right. After Insomnia. Correct. OK.
Richard, this is why we bring you on. Look at that. David's threading his fingers together. Happ good in the apprentice last year.
I have read Trump senior. Happers right in the apprentice. Not an obviously big role, like probably just a few scenes, but he really nailed it. I mean, just like killer supporting term.
Just pure have happened all over the place. This look, I was a little tempted. Dreyfus is the one I have in the pocket. It was kind of tee ball waiting there for me.
But this is a movie where looking at the quotes page, you're like, you got a couple of big swings on voices. You could do. Do you have one in the winter? I was trying to put I was trying to do it a little.
I was like, it's getting there. I was trying to parrot it back. But it's there's something about her voice like transforms within a sentence. It does.
It has this almost like beetle juicy thing of like she kind of has four voices or people you know, those characters where it's like sometimes, sometimes, sometimes. Like she's like, it's it's tough to pin down. It is. And she's and she's selectively southern depending on the movie.
She's in. Yes. I think it was in the piano episode. I talked about how odd it is that that is her like Oscar-winning performance and is so out of step with the rest of her filmography.
She's like a firecracker. I mean, she's literally a beautiful. I think I I referred to her as a Texas firecracker. Yeah.
And then a bunch of our listeners said that she is from Georgia. Georgia, but she was in Texas, we called this firecracker and then the Texas cheerleader. Thank you. I just needed to address this.
She is a poor. I was a Georgia peach. She's a Georgia peach. Yes.
Um, we used to live in an apartment with Francis McMarvin. Well, we talked about that fucking apartment. But you know this? Can we litigate this?
If you don't know this? I probably don't. We can briefly look at this. We are three people who lived in that part.
OK, Fran, Holly and Kathy Bates. My goodness. And the question we ask and ask when did this come up? I think the Rainey series must have said because Rainey was friends with the Coen brothers and that apartment.
That's the thing. The Rainey's and the Coens all cross-pollinate with that apartment. Why has Sam Rainey and the Coen brothers never used Kathy Bates if they were like pals with her? We're like, do Kathy Bates leave her hair in the shower?
We're like going through it. We're like Holly Hunter and Francis McDorman have basically never worked with Kathy Bates. Right. Right.
Is everyone just like, don't let me hear you. She like shit in the shower. Like what the fuck happened? Didn't Holly Hunter play Bill Clinton in primary colors?
I didn't know I have a natural relationship with that woman. Wow. Right. That's the most interesting thing.
You're like, Kathy Bates, she must have been a four-coin brothers. All right. This is a spin off investigative podcast. Malarck.
Get Malarck on it. Get the real Malarck. The real Malarck. It's from Malarck.
We're the Rainey brothers and the Coen brothers going over to this apartment and staying up late drinking with Holly Hunter and Francis McDorman and like Kathy Bates comes in with a broom. She's a curlers in. Yeah. She's like, I'm doing Night Mother in the morning.
Will you stop dreaming of criminal schemes for idiots to get involved in in your stupid movies? What if a guy is really dumb in a classical? A lesbian road trip comedy? Let's back for about four or four years.
Yeah. Um, wow. How do we go on this? Oh, Holly Hunter.
Holly Hunter. The star of Always. The star of Always. What's the podcast?
The podcast is Blanche Check with Griffin and David. I'm Griffin. I'm David. It's a podcast about filmographies.
Yes. Directors with massive success early on in their careers and given a series of Blanche checks to make whatever crazy passion products they want. Sometimes those checks clear and sometimes they bounce baby. Yes.
I do. This is not a bounce, but it's close. It is. It's kind of a bounce.
Obviously by his standards, it's a bounce. Yes. But it's not a 1941 style actual bounce of like, oh no, you've spent too much money and made it not enough, right? Yes.
Like this is more of a sort of like, well, that kind of got ignored and was a bit of a waste of your time. But I mean, some money. Yes. I think 1941 is the only outright calamity.
Yes. I mean, 1941 made money and sure. Yeah. Like this absolutely came in under its budget and got bad reviews, right?
This movie. Right. What's a 1941? Oh, you need budget yourself.
Not under its budget. 1941 made less than a bunch of or. Oh, but I'm saying the movie went over budget. And then of course, yes.
Yes. Yeah. All right. I'm like, like always in hook are kind of in a similar zone of like, it feels like sky high expectations.
Sure. And then people are kind of like, and then hook has become the most beloved movie of all time. And hook also made lots of money, at least. Well, I send you guys that 60 minutes clip and we'll talk about when we get to our hook episode.
But I watch like you read the press from hook two weeks in and people are like, it's too well, but it's not doing really well. Yeah. The man said to high bars. It's the thing.
And I think always was a similar thing where it's like, this didn't lose money. Right. Like savaging it. But it does feel like it is his single most forgotten movie without without.
And I was doing the ranking on Letterbox and it is far and away by some margin, his least watched feature film. Or least. Yeah. Yeah.
Of course. It feels like the one that people actually just don't know exists. Dawson hasn't hanging in the closet, right? Yes.
Yes. Dawson has every Spielberg poster in his room, but always is in his closet. Right. Kind of a weird thing.
Right. My mother had seen it and liked it or something. So for me, it was like Spielberg's biggest movie other than Indiana Jones and Dresspark. Yeah.
Like the bottom five feature just even Spielberg movies on Letterbox in terms of like, large. I know this because I checked this. Tell me. OK.
Well, so we're not counting. Not counting. Not counting. Not counting obviously in the TV movies.
Right. Wicked or something. OK. So it's it's Sugar Land.
So always is the least in 1940. Oh, right. Then Sugar Land. And then the two above that slightly more surprising.
Only. Yes. Yes. Yes.
No, because I know because I was one. We did a perfect episode on with no. Almost. But some people don't like the episode because we don't like the movie.
Almost that too. People don't like it because it's not the war horse. It is the worst. Like people generally like that.
It was supposed to be having a lot of fun. Yeah. Some people sort of meekly I see sometimes being like, I actually like war horse and I feel like not very nice to it. Look, I think I think War Horse has spectacular stuff.
When I saw War Horse that horse. Oh, God. If I could get my dick on that horse. That's a call back.
That doesn't make sense. If that sounds like I made a huge. You haven't listened to the episode. The episode we talk about everyone's really in love with that horse.
But it feels like a little too much. It's sexualizing. All right. Let's cut to a montage.
Let's cut to a Montage. I think Ben's right. I was like a couple of people that really want to fuck that horse. Yeah.
Great episode. Everyone in this movie really wants to fuck this one. Even in war, like we're all going to want to fuck the same horse. You never made a movie where people are trying to cock a horse.
It's just hot. It's just like a hot horse. This is the human condition. You raise it.
We want to fuck this. Fuck this horse. What is the deal with the horse? Fucking ability.
He wants to fuck the horse. Everyone wants to fuck the horse. Right. John Ford brings me to his office and he goes, I heard you want to be a picture maker.
And he goes, yeah. And he goes, let me ask you a question. You want to fuck this horse? What do you want to fuck this horse?
Ah, yes. Now that you have that context. Great. Let me finish the clip.
Show by the way, Richard. We're not going to get to get to it. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm sorry.
Let's play the clips from all my appearance. This is a serious. On the early works of Stephen Swellberg, first half of his career, we're calling it pod rasic cast. And you're making your bottom dollar.
A lot of notes. This is the first episode I want to say we've recorded since our work in the title was announced. And people are not happy about it. Why not?
What's the fucking problem? Jurcastic pod. They want pod encounters of the close cast. Yeah.
Where are you seeing criticism? Because I'll say the blankie subreddit. Yeah. Honestly, has kind of just become a movie discussion board, which is fine by me.
Like it's not even barely touches on our podcast anymore, which is a OK. So where are you even? I'm not. I guess I'm not on Twitter anymore.
I mean, I'm not on Twitter anymore. I mean, I'm not. I mean, I'm not on Twitter anymore. Did you think about cast encounters of the pod kind?
I thought about all of it. I think about all of it. I think about all of it. Yeah.
There's never one that I'm like, oh, fuck. I should have done that. And a big part of the calculation is I just need to say I type them out. I write them out.
I go, what looks funny. And then I go, let me say it out loud. Yeah. How is your going to have to say it out loud several times?
Right. And it's like sometimes there's one that's funny, but it's actually going to be impossible to pronounce. Right. I want it to be a clunky.
I don't want it to be too clean. Of course. I want it to be a bit of tension. Right.
But this is pod rasa cast. A really nice thing to say. Just rolls off the top. The first half of Spielberg's career, because two presidential terms ago, we covered the latter half of his career.
Mm-hmm. And now we've circled back. In that series, our guest today covered, Saving Private Ryan. That's right.
One of his absolutely most essential. And I believe we recorded that the week after a certain election. Who? There is an upsetting director mirror on the timeline of these two series.
Yep. Yep. But today he is returning for another one that loomed very large in your life. Yeah.
It was before Private Ryan. It was like a big, yeah. We had another guest book, a friend of the show, we'll have one for something else, a friend of all of ours. We're excited to have one.
Can you reach? Yeah. I mean, we're just sort of like, we should have Katie do always, right? I don't think anyone cares that much about always.
Katie will probably be a good guest for always. And then we booked it. And then you texted me. And we're like, who's doing always?
Always is really important to me. That'll be great. I support Katie being on this episode. So goodbye.
Katie's New York trip plans chains. Yes. Windows. Golden Globes.
You get to mount the case for always Richard Lawson. A fanfare. Little gold man. Thank you for having me.
I'm 10. Well, timer. Oh, I think it's more than that. Here.
But 10 years for you guys. A decade of dreams. That's a big help. A decade of dreams.
Saving Private Ryan. Lady in the water. Big guys. Yeah.
All right. Wait a second. You're not going in order. K19 the Widowmaker.
Everyone's favorites. I'll go in order. Lady in the water. Verneillers scar.
Vanilla skur. Shurving pervert. Verne. Verne.
Verne. Verms. Holy crap. You were on the K19 the Widowmaker.
I probably because my brain has erased that trauma. I am out of your apartment. I remember why you claimed that episode. Why did I?
Well, I was in it. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right.
I was in love with the fatherland. Yeah. Yeah. Sperm blur.
Sperm blur. Sperm erger. Yeah. Big guys, as you say.
Yeah. So that's seven. We're at seven there. One, two.
Philadelphia. Philadelphia. Another one my brain has erased. The Witches.
Robert's Macus is the witch. That was our Richard's drinking during this recording. We were all drinking during that recording. That might be the single least existent movie we have covered on our shop.
Truly. Yeah. Right. He made Pinocchio as a challenge.
Yeah. But he could not exist less than the witches. It's still exist slightly more than the witches. But he was trying to get below the witches and he couldn't.
Martin Bress AFI projects exist more like the early ones that are lesser seen. At least they have like a storeable. A shit I just took as a more seen movie. That's Robert's Macus is the witch's whip fucking in halfway.
The purr of the dirk. Oh, right. Yeah. A little spurred a curse.
Yeah. Yeah. The curious case of Benjamin Bertrand. And we met him.
We love them. Black. Mr. Black.
Mr. Joe. Mr. Joe Black.
Yeah. So is this 13? I think it's 14, isn't it? One.
That's amazing. A lot of them. It's more than one year. This is the 14th.
And of course, let's never forget that on our Patreon. You did experience the trolls. We did. Yeah.
Or you experienced the trolls. You're a troll. Yeah. I welcomed you into my world.
How many trolls have there been at this point? I know you completely lost control of your trolls long ago. But even three. They unionized it was a disaster.
You tried to crush them. Yeah. So World Tour. And then they banded together.
Yes. Not sure that I saw band together. I did see World Tour. Band together came out last year.
World kind of underperformed. I reviewed World Tour because that was at the start of the pandemic. It was like we have to find something right about it. World Tour was the first studio movie that had not gone to theaters that announced $25 iTunes rent.
It was the canary in the coal mine that does this work. The answer was not really but sort of. Sort of. Right.
But I remember World Tour being like a huge step up from trolls one. But I did not see trolls. I already forgot that. Band together.
We have a lot to talk about. I just want to say that I need to complain about this. And this is why I refuse to see Band Together at a protest. Yeah.
I know he's in the character's name is brand. He's a grump. He's playing against Timberlake. I talked about the experience where my therapist related my own psychology.
You're out looking to branches. I said I need to pop you in your way. She said it's just because my kid's been watching it a lot. I'm sure you're saying it's reminding me a lot of Justin Timberlake's character and trolls.
I'm like yes, I know what his name is. That would be a gut punch if my therapist said that. And David's 10 point show can response that was you need to stop going to Lake's camera Jackson for therapy. I mean, they drive all the alone.
Doctor, Doctor, give me the news. But he's a sour-puss grump. Right. Right.
It's kind of Timberlake playing against type. The hook to band together was we're going to do a meta commentary on Timberlake's boy band pass. You're going to find out that he was a member of a trolls boy band with his brothers. And the big announcement was in sync is reuniting for this.
In sync is recording five new songs for the trolls band together. Right. Soundtrack. They're going to do live performances.
In sync is back. David, what are you looking at? I'm just looking. So, in sync kind of passed me by slightly.
I was like a little too old for in sync, right? By then it was I was a more poppy, optimistic kid than some, the teen than some, right? But I didn't really know in sync that well, Chris Kirkpatrick, what's going on there? I look.
You see there look and you're like, I can see what like what the idea was here. Right. If I can be mean, sort of, is that that was the interesting innovation of One Direction, which was like, Oh, all five are cute. Yeah.
Because it shows me like two are cute. One's okay. One is busted and interesting. And the other one does not exist.
Well, there's an old one. Yeah. There's an old one. And like just that thing where they felt like they were like, we saw 80,000 people to be in this band and we ran out of good ones after three.
Like this was like the together thing of like what the formulation is of the weird balance of the thing, you know, like, because like the better man that he probably was by a pick, doesn't really touch on take that, you know, lower members, no rent. Are they picked at all? No, take that. As humans, of course, only Robbie is a champion.
Kind of offensive to the other members of the type of like Gary Barlow is obviously the main part of the have you seen better man? No, I've not. Actually, yeah, Gary Barlow was the head of the front man for and Robbie was kind of the cute one off to the side. Okay.
There's another cute one. And then there's the two other ones. Now, no offense to fans of the two other ones, but it's true. Like they would always just kind of have like two spare fucking guys.
I feel like the 90s version of that was. I think it was a kind of nothing one was a good. And I understand that he was really instrumental in like bringing the group together and like he kind of like, yeah, yeah. I think it was how he could wear dreadlocks.
Right. I think that's really what he didn't initially, but then he brings those out. He brings those out. I was going to say those groups all needed one guy who was sort of like a weird, old subculture.
He was the agent McLean for backstreet boys. But then in Britain, you would have boys owner West life or whatever. It was truly just like it looked like they just cloned people. Yeah.
Like it's just all kind of like blonde, dyed action. With spiky gel hair. Right. And I was I would argue that was part of what didn't make them stick.
Yeah, because you need some spice or something. And I also think having the weirdos would make the Nick Carter or the Justin Timber like pop a little more. Was it really tough to be like I'm an 11 year old girl and I love in sync and I'm one of the 1% that's like Chris. I'm I was fascinated because my sister, you know, well, I was into the bands too, but like she her friends, they would talk about it.
And one of her friends was like of the battery boys. She's like, no, I'm a Kevin Richardson girl. And I was like, whoa, Kevin was like, find a rare co-op. He's the one who kind of brought them together and held them together.
So my James and my little brother, James and man was a big backstreet boys guy and I had had like a post on his wall arm was watching him. We were a backstreet boys household. But like a Pepsi family. Yeah, the videos would be on the TV or James would be like, you know, having a poster, my dad would just walk by and look at AJ and go, that guy's such a grease ball.
He's never not clung. I was like, what is up with this guy? In my house, we drank RC Cola and listened to O-town. Okay, that was right.
We were ginger ale and extra boys. Can't have the dry and extra boys. How did we get on? Oh, because you're talking about troll.
Well, because Holly Hunter was originally she worked with Lou Perlman. I thought we could get on the fucking troll. We were kind of your episode. Yeah.
This is episode on Always. Yeah. Yeah. This is the episode on Seamis Millburg's 1989 romantic fantasy pseudo remake Always.
Yes. Which starred Richard Dreyfus Holly Hunter. John Goodman on the poster, although, you know, kind of not a big character in a weird way to the movie. We're going to talk about it.
I have a lot of say about it. Everyone's favorite movie star Brad Johnson. Yeah. So I assume you weren't doing any kind of an ancillary digging or checking of the dossier and that this was your first time seeing him that actor.
Watch the movie Always. Yeah. Brad Johnson. That's the same.
Right? Brad Johnson, who plays the, you know, the new love interest after a drive. So this kind of the himbo. Right.
There you go. So your awareness, this is the first time you've ever seen this guy. Right. Yeah.
So this is his first movie. How do you think he was discovered? What do you think he did before they were like, Hey, should you try acting like in a movie action? Sure.
This isn't like a stuff for a bit. I just think you might get this right. Chip and dales. You're close.
He was a literal Marlboro man. Like, and actually, like, he was in the hat on his fucker. Wow. He was in secret.
He was a rodeo performer who then was spotted and became the Marlboro man for a chunk of years. Sure. You know, was one of many Marlboro man, but had it because I was like being Lara Croft. Right.
Right. It was like a cycle. Yeah. Yeah.
I didn't know, so none of those names were right. They like, there's a kind of a product or a video horror movie. And then this. And all the Marvel men, they lived in an apartment complex together.
They had fun with adventures. They were doing lesson competitions. Yeah. They were dating and it was fun.
It's so weird. Like, it is a part of this movie. I've never seen this before. Never seen that ever seen.
I've ever seen that always fascinated me was like part of the framing of this movie was like, we're introducing a new movie star Spielberg has found a guy. Yep. And there's like a lot of people magazine press of like the co-stars talking up. Like this guy's got a huge career.
We're gonna have him to impressions. Like we're gonna show a range of talents. Yeah. on TV, yeah, I mean, he worked.
I think he mostly was in kind of, you know, straight to video kind of stuff, actually. Yes, and then became a real estate agent and died of COVID. He did die from complications from COVID. Yes, and the real estate he worked in was specifically ranch real estate.
So he went back to the Marlboro roots. Marlboro man is one of those things that I would like explain to my kids, and they will be like, the fuck are you talking about? Where I'm like, so cigarettes started to get filtered, right? No, okay.
I mean, if cigarettes are even still legal at this point, you might as well wheel up any further by somebody's gonna live back. And people thought filtered cigarettes were feminine. So Marlboro came up with this brilliant idea of like, what if a cowboy was like, so good. And it was the most brilliant advertising campaign anyone ever heard of that a fucking cowboy smoked this shit.
Like that's all Marlboro man is. Yeah, well, yeah, because you know what the rival campaign was? That fucking penis face camel, like billiard's holes. It's just so funny.
It was like, what gets a handsome dude? I mean, like, yeah, that might push it. Obviously it's what man men, you know, the pilot is about. But like, you know, like, right, like all these companies are like, we all make the same basic thing, which is a deadly product that you're addicted to.
How do we find an angle on selling this to people? There's eight different companies with this. Like, I'm like, I should have a camel. Newport's had the market cornered and people smiling while playing tennis.
I was in that with the supermarket. Yeah. God, it's so fucking weird. Anyway, we were a Marlboro household.
So I was very acquainted with the Marlboro man and I had lots of sports illustrated and he was a Marlboro man was always in those. Was your deck collecting points? Were you happy with that? It was a whole fucking Marlboro member for my mom.
We would get free shit. Yeah, what kind of stuff? I remember I had a sleeping bag. I would take that thing to kids houses, right for sleepovers and shit.
I had a fucking Marlboro local on it. I will say this in all honesty. It's like a red sleeping bag. It's like a red sleeping bag.
It's probably looked like a lit cigarette. I remember going to a friend's house with parents who smoked heavily and would have the catalog and I look through it. I like stuff. To be clear, people don't know.
You would send in box. Marlboro miles. Marlboro miles. You would get points and get free shit out of the house.
And you could go to the Marlboro mountains in here. Two packs a deck. It was an expansive catalog that contained almost every type of product you could imagine branded with Marlboro. And it was like, as you said, from an act trader, like a fucking motorcyclical.
I think you could save up and buy a private island. And as a kid who loved catalogs, I'd leave through and my parents would be like, God, I wish my parents were chain-swogers. If you saved enough of them, you could get a part in them with the old list. You could always build bricks like, I'll cast.
I mean, it was no. I think I've said this to you guys before. Off my probably. But right, my mom would go through duty free when he started living in England.
And then we would travel to America. And in duty free, you could buy cigarettes so much cheaper because they were tax-free. And they'd cigarettes or tax up the asses. They should be.
Right. And like walking out with long boxes. My mom would walk out with like 20 cartons of Marlboro. And my mother never smoked a cigarette in her damn life or whatever, barely ever did.
And she would just, it was this. He's gonna, your dad's gonna buy the fucking cigarettes. Can you save hundreds, thousands of dollars right now? And indulge his deadly habit or do we not?
And in the process also. Get some fucking box stops, get a sleeping bag. It's so, it's so evil. This is what I'm saying.
Like kids are gonna be like, what are you talking about? Like how many of us allow? But that's like part of this cultural moment where like fucking Spielberg's casting director sees him all brown and is like, what about this guy? And this is a movie where it's like, I feel like at one point, he tried for years to get toned crews to play.
Where again, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cruz was the, well, it's a big move for like Spielberg to be like, you know what?
I'm anointing face here. And we talk about it in our later Spielberg series when we've had to come back to him in like new release movies that it feels like from the 2000s on Spielberg really kind of kept whiffing on picking new leading men. Yeah. He kept on trying to like identify people, none of whom had as little Matt Brown as that.
Johnson, I think you're Jeremy or Vines. You're Eric Banas. You're Eric Banas. Which was a little bit different.
I mean, Eric Bana kind of almost got there, not just through Spielberg. I think even more the younger dude, the Tye Sherrydens where I like some Tye Sherrydens. He's still around? Yeah, he's not a bad actor.
But that was sort of framed as the moment of like Spielberg's about to elevate him. Yeah. And in fact, it caused him to go like, I gotta go back to smaller stuff. What is the Belgian actor?
What has he been in? The Boy reporter? Yeah. And there's a big asteroid with a mushroom on it.
Oh, okay. He's checking that out. His best pick in the 2000s was Shaya and then Shaya attacked him. Right.
Shaya went down. Like back. I mean, honestly, his best find of late is, well, Gabrielle Bell is a great spot. He's not going to be a great show.
I mean, right up the show, Rachel. Like that's a true, like I found someone out of nowhere. But I'm talking about the male leads where the thing that he was kind of struggling with. He found this Rando fucker than Ben's friends called Dan for Lincoln.
I don't know. Dan L. Yeah. I'll say we were all just at the new film.
Pretty good. We were all just at the new film. We were all just at the new film. Craig Circle.
David put together very nice evening. I did. I mean, it'd be fine. As this year's chair.
I was this year's chair. And the final word was best filmed for the brutalist. Yes. And it was presented by Robert Pattinson.
Our pats. And we were sitting very close. Yeah, you guys had the best seat in the house. We were back to the chair, right?
And Ben just turns to me and goes, Bob looks great. He did. I will say this. He was wearing a really like nice suit.
He was out of control. The angles on the guy. Oh, I mean, if I can briefly mention that. I got a perspective on him too.
I mean, we both did where you could just see how pronounced his jaw line was. Well, it was crazy. I've interviewed Robert Pattinson when he's in, you know, catch close. And even then obviously he's incredibly handsome and charming and you know, you get, you know, a star vibe.
Him walking into that room, the critic circle where there's lots of famous actors and Hollywood people and such. And he walks in there in that perfect where you're like, this is another level of like people paying attention to what he wears and how he dresses and what his hair looks like. He's just like inherent quality. He has like a fucking A-list movie.
So I have his entrance to that. He came in from the back. Right. There was, I can reveal, I guess, off, you know, he, I was telling Richard this already.
He was supposed to come at 10. He was our big get, you know, and he's like, I'm going to drop it. I'll just drop into present. And we're like, well, it's the last word of the night where we'll ballpark around 10 o'clock show up.
The ceremony starts and I immediately am like, Oh shit, like we're running fast. No one's rambling. No one's like, yeah, whatever, like whatever we budgeted for in terms of like, eh, one thing will go long or one thing. I realize I'm not rambling.
So I think hosts ramble more than I do. I'm kind of just like an hour on to this award and now we're on to this award and now we're on to this. You know, like I'm not like, I'm just a fair. And I turned to each other and said you were your hosting have the energy of you trying to in real time edit J.J.'s dossier.