You're listening to the Wisps Wasatch investigative studies of paranormal stuff. Wait, what wasatch wasatch investigates? science of Perinou wa wasatch wasatch look through the Wisps. Okay, it's it's a awesome super fun time paranormal adventure show seriously You're never allowed to name anything again Welcome to the high tech cafe studios for the latest installment of the Wisps show today featuring a keyboard that has a water spill in it And so we're having to do everything with the mouse I just want to I just want to point out that the letters a and s still work So I can still spill ass so this podcast is brought to you by the letters a and s another s Anyway, I'm your host castle with me here is our co-host at the end hello our co-host lurch Hi and hefei who apparently spilled water in his keyboard.
I'm not gonna ask how do I not get to be a co-host? What is a co-host? I don't know what's a host? I don't know somebody who hosts something.
Yeah Anyway, we're gonna pick up where we left off with our last show But actually tonight I want to start with something a little bit different that we've done rather than our other shows The end like I talked about a couple weeks ago in her last show ordered a boobery and she's here flashing everybody There's no she's not flashing everybody in the room. I thought she's showing everybody in the room her boobery Well, this is actually the boobery junior. I did not know there was a bigger one that will be the next purchase That's what she said. Have you tested the boobery?
Yes, I have it doesn't work. Yes, it does Okay, you've mentioned we actually had a whisk barbecue last weekend and some of the members came up with an idea And I think we're gonna try this idea. I would like to know that I was not invited to the barbecue No, no, you're not furthering the evidence I am not a whisk member, but just a skeptic, you know, I'm gonna fix I'm gonna buy you to the west warm She can see all the stuff that goes on. I don't want to see what you guys do behind closed doors Oh, you're gonna see whether you want to or not.
You already know what I do in the closet. We do Anyway, what we came up with is we want to do a little contest I know I've mentioned in past podcasts that we are headed to asylum 49 on May 20th Which is just around the corner and we'll tell you all about that investigation when we do it But since it's so close we've scheduled a different investigation that I am not gonna reveal the location of on June 7th And here's what our little contest is gonna be Deann has her boob air jr And it needs a name and so we're gonna let listeners name the boob air and whoever comes up with the best name And we're gonna vote on it as with membership. Although I have Just a little heavier vote. I do have veto power.
That's the way. I don't think so because we named our one of our team members lurks lurks The slob whisper and so whether he likes it or not, that's his new nickname. He wasn't the slob whisper. Oh, not lurch I'm gonna say Tim Tim the slob whisper Anyway, regardless it's been a long day for all of us apparently yes it has Regardless the boob air needs to be named and so whoever comes up with the best name for the boob air We are gonna take them and a guest so whoever wins plus a friend can come with our next private investigation on June 7th Which is a Sunday night.
So I hope that's not a terrible night for whoever wins It's just the night that scheduling worked out for us lodging and airfare not included. So hopefully you live the investigation We'll be in the Salt Lake Valley. So yes, lodging our fairs not included You have to get your own self there, but we you can come investigate with us and use our equipment and hang out with us Heaven help you heaven help you and like I said, this is a private investigation So this is just gonna be with members and you and your guest if you win now to win by private investigation Are you investigating people's privates? Oh?
By the way, you need to come on the that investigation as well June 7th I'm sure you'd love me there I'd be like never that lady that you told the stories about last time if you want her back Then invite me you know between a silent 49 and this upcoming investigation which I'm not gonna build location on the air We might make a believer idea Yeah Regardless anyway, if you want to name the boob air in our contest you can submit your entries to podcasts podcasts at WISPS.org So just email your entry to podcasts at WISPS.org Oh seriously, and please do because if you don't then Castle and March gonna name it and no no no no no no Doesn't or so name. No, I hear some no They're appropriate. I got dibs on Bob. How's Bob?
That's no oh man Lester. Do we hear Lester Lester the mollister see see Please please send please send names Podcasts at WISPS.org and we will actually name the winner at our next podcast which will be two weeks from now So what's today's the seventh? Yes, so that'll give us what the 21st So I'll give you a couple two three weeks to to plan to know that you've won and basically plan to be there with a guest And again, it's an unrevelled location. It's in Salt Lake is that right?
I'm like you said about Salt Lake County Salt Lake County 7 p.m. To 1 a.m. I'm trying to drive it Yeah, I used to drive it there all the time and it's super easy to find it never knew those places on until you mentioned it the other day We know it's kind of interesting that you bring that up actually places that are haunted Kind of what I want to talk about a little bit tonight is Had to know if a place is haunted. I know I've mentioned it before I've kind of rambled before and gone on about things being haunted Most places actually are haunted to some level Generally most ghosts are very Territorial so if there's someplace in a building or home they like they'd tend hang out in that one spot Ie one room one closet they will wander a little bit But usually not terribly much and most ghosts are pretty low-key.
They don't want to be noticed they just Hang out watch you do and they do nothing Those cases where you have more activities usually goes to this a lot more active looking for attention And sometimes some of the more negative entities tend to draw attention as well So I've kind of I've compiled a list and I've given everybody copy the list of a ways to know if your house is haunted or a full location Is haunted so I'd like to go down this list a little bit and talk about it if we can First item on the list is unexplained noises. Do you want to talk about that? Just a little bit? Yeah Unexplain noises are noises that are unexplained.
Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I got it. I got it's It's only unexplained because you haven't found the source of it yet, correct and where we will be about noises and seriously unexplained noises When I had the spirit follow me home from Salem I mean she she played the piano, you know when I know that no one else had played the piano no one else was in the room My piano has never played itself.
It's not a player piano You know just and if you're in your home or in your workplace someplace where you are a lot You kind of get used to what are the regular noises and then what are the weird noises and on this one? I'm gonna slide right down the middle. I agree with HFA, but I've experienced some things like Jan has I've heard children's laughter before I know we talked about in the last podcast we talked about The I'm over here mommy that evp But at the same time I've been on investigations in fact I was at the fear factory in this one old rundown building and you periodically hear this chain clink of people like oh a chain clinked And I'm kind of I think hefe would be exactly where I'm at with this and it's like, you know what that could be anything that could be the wind or Thinking well I was gonna say it could be a car driving by that shake and something making the chain clink So I don't really like unexplained noises per se unless it's something that's an unusual unexplained noise The piano right I think any good investigator, you know, there's a few on tv that every little creek and every little squawk You know what's that? And any good investigators gonna go okay, you know what we just heard a noise You know, let's figure out what that was.
You know, there's a creek. Oh look there's a door right there that you know wait Oh, it creeks. Okay, you know, that's it. So, um, you know, if if you're on a ghost hunt you hear a noise Don't get uber excited about it.
You're even a noise in your house I mean if you're like listening to this and evaluating what you've got not going on in your own house You know, how's it settle houses Creek Siding on my house and not so much in the winter time But in the summer when it gets hot since that sun comes up It's just like a creek fest and if I was one of those that gets too excited over every noise I would just think my house was a peanut attack by poltergeist every morning about nine my problem is okay This is my problem is that how do you discern that like for instance? You said someone's playing the piano in your house How do you know for certain that that's where it's coming from? Did you see keys moving without somebody touching it? No because it was right there I mean you can tell the difference between a piano that's from media you away as opposed to you know The neighbor planted across the street and the important thing with this list that I'm going down any one of these things by itself Doesn't necessarily mean locations haunted usually as far as from an investigative standpoint I would like to see several different things on this list that we're gonna go through to say a place is haunted So it's sorry go ahead Oh, you know, you can be on an investigation and this excuse me the spirits will you know if you can get them to communicate with you You can say okay, you know, if you're really here, you know tap the wall twice tap tap Okay, just to verify is that a spirit that's with us tap three types tap tap tap You know something like that.
I'm going to believe if it's intelligently responding to my requests, but just random taps You know, I'm not going to get excited about and for me just random creaks and taps I never terribly excited about for me. This sounds like excited about I've been growled at A little more sinister, but yeah, that's the same thing Or sorry not Mrs. Lurch. This is Lurch It's okay, but I mean I've been growled at we've heard the oddball voices those things I take a little bit more Seriously, then just the taps are the creaks.
I know with one of the chunked investigations in the new building the building I like to refer to as the bad building There was something going on with the ceiling where it would get hot or settle and it just made this it sounds like someone's running across the ceiling basically And people would oh, did you hear that? Did you hear that? And you know I heard it all night for both investigations that we're at that building and to be honest with the eyes chocking up as the building settling There's people getting all kinds of excited about it But to me it was just a metal roof and the temperature changes was making it make sounds So I prepared the exact same thing. Yeah, I just I couldn't get excited about it as activity because it just there's too logical an explanation for it Was it an old building actually know it was a new building.
Well, let me qualify that It was an old building had been added on to become a new building Okay, that makes more sense. I was thinking it was not a new building Yeah, the bad building the front part of it was an old building and then they added on the south portion of it That was all new and they remodeled all insights of the one back wall was a the old exterior wall from the old building But yeah, with that metal roof, I think it was just the temperature fluctuations making that running sound But again people are getting excited about it and I wasn't gonna rain on anybody's parade People are like who activity is how much are going? Going back to your home though, you're in your home enough that you can tell what's Normal creaky noises and then what might be a little out of the ordinary Yeah, but the problem I have with that is what's normal to me is not normal to you Correct and I think kind of what she's saying there is You're used to the sounds in your home Uh, and I'm used to sounds in my home So if you get to my house you might hear something that would be add normal But to me it's a normal sound because I'm just here all the time But really going back to it all again sounds are just one indicator So for example, you know how the the stairs on your stairs creak, okay? Maybe it's every third step, you know that if you step on right here It's gonna creak really loud But it never ever creaks unless someone's stepping on it And you know that just because you've lived here and you've heard it and I'm just making something up Will that say you're sneaking in my house at night?
Yes, but let's say you're watching TV and you hear that stair creak You think oh someone's coming upstairs, but then you go no, here's my wife and my kids and me My house, so something like that's just an old house. It's on it. No, that's just an old house That all haunted. Yeah, well Anyway, like I said sound is just one indicator But it's my least favorite Lurch, do I take the second one on the list?
Uh doors covered cabinets being opened or closed That's I mean, I'm not sure what else to do. I'll go on I mean I'll go on when when my sailing visitor came when June came Um, one of the things that made me kind of scratch my head I have two spirits in my home Um, and they really don't do a whole lot that they really don't And my daughter got locked in her room And the only people that were home were her and me she's not tall enough to do it I didn't do it How old is she? Three And so that's when I kind of scratched my head and and had to kind of start noticing things It's like, huh, this is weird If I remember right, I'm gonna expand on your story there if you don't mind No, go ahead But her three-year-old daughter usually goes down for a nap or into a room And I'm looking at you to make sure that I'm telling this right Should I tell this? You might want to tell this.
Why don't you tell this? Okay, so um My three-year-old has a mind of her own. Let's just leave it at that You mean she sure reminds not someone else's? Oh, she's a, she's a pill I mean, don't we all have a mind about her?
Oh, no, she she has a mind of her own plus some Jan has like 1,500 boys and two girls and her girls are both like extremely Extremely strong-willed My favorite is Instagram photos for her oldest daughters several years of self-dressing Oh, okay, anyway, so um If I try to, I can't just say a nap time Interesting choices You know, unless kids don't like to go down for a nap time But she will not stay in her room and her door won't latch And so I put a little hook and eye on the outside of her door I'm five foot three and I have to reach just a little bit to reach the hook and eye And so what I do, I haven't had to use it for a long time I had to use it for about three months and then she kind of grew out of it But I would put her in a room and I would lock the hook and eye And she'd go to open the door and she couldn't open the door So she figured, okay, fine, I'll go take it out And then I'd wait about 10 minutes and I'd go unhook it Then when she woke up she would just come out So um the day that I discovered that June was in the house This very strong-willed three-year-old was having an extra strong-willed day And nothing was making her happy and I was in my room folding laundry And she would run into her bedroom and slam the door and a few minutes later she'd come out And I'd, you know, turn wrong or blink wrong and she'd have a fit and run into her room and slam the door And this happened three or four times And I finally thought, you know what? No, I'm going downstairs, you can have a fit upstairs I'm going to go downstairs, so I went downstairs and that made her mad So she ran into her room and slammed the door And so I thought, fine, you know, maybe she'll fall asleep So I'm doing my thing downstairs and then I hear her rattling the door And it's the same rattle as when I lock it Because on her door I've got this metal, it's like this metal flower And so when she tries to open the door it kind of goes, you know, clang, clang, clang And I thought, wait a minute, that sounds like it's one on earth's going on And so I went upstairs and it was locked So isn't it possible that when she slammed the door the lock just fell into the latch? Because the hook part is on the door frame Yeah, with a hook and eye, uh, stylatch The hook generally hangs lower than the eye when it's at rest Now if it were on the door, maybe I could see slamming the door might kick it up And, you know, one in a million thing of hooking in that eye But the hook part is on the door frame So I'm going to play the devil's advocate here because I've lived in both old homes and new homes And the old homes that don't have air conditioning The doors will often close or rattle on themselves because the wind, you know, pressure going through the house And I've had doors closed that way, but I know that it's wind New homes, I've never had anything open, closed, cabinet, stores, whatever On its own, so that's all I'd like to see and I haven't yet And I've heard accounts from some of our clients of stuff like that happening Personally never seen it happen I've seen some other objects move around I'll talk about that as we go further down the list But there is a video on our website, I'm going to point everybody to a website for just a minute www.wisps.org And if you go on our media section under videos There's a video called Demons in Connecticut And that's a video of a client I had who had been dealing with a very negative entity For five years and you got the point where you basically set up a webcam in his kitchen And you see all kinds of objects moving through those various videos Particularly though, you see cabinets and coverage and drawers and things of that nature opening and closing on their own So a good example actually, see that would be Demons in Connecticut video on our website That was the exact video I was thinking of too when I was looking at this And then we've got the fellow that had the issue with his treadmill He was the only person that lived in this home and he's local, he's Utah County And currently if I'm wrong because I didn't go on this investigation But one of the reasons he called, he lived alone in the home He would come home, he would go get the shower, he'd come out of the shower and all the scout cushions would be stacked up And that actually is that particular haunting is still ongoing It's gotten better since we got involved but it's ongoing And actually I'm gonna have him down here as a guest I'm one of our future shells but he's had some crazy activities including paint cans to the run across his garage at him Ruining two cars for the last 20 years Yeah, it's a 20 year hunting I want to know what the treadmill has to do with it Because you know, I was gonna throw on a joke about exercising You know, uh, exercise it could be Well, I didn't want to say his name because I was a terrific and say his name on the air So that was just a call in Bob That was just a trigger so that these guys would know what I was talking about Yeah, and that room he has a room in the house as a treadmill and that's kind of a focal point Of where this haunting is coming from basically It's kind of when we talk about their territorial that's kind of where they hang this I don't want to get too into it because I'm gonna have his guess and so I'd like to have him kind of explain what's going on in the Significance of that room and everything Um, and he is gonna be on a future show But yeah, he's had a lot of movement in the house back the very first day he moved in 20 years ago, he moved into the house His first day there said he's in the kitchen counter Again, he lives alone. There's nobody else in the house walked into the room heard his keys jangle Came in to pick him up and saw they'd been moved over to a different counter than where he actually set him down So he's a young Alzheimer's No, he's actually you like he's actually a really nice guy He is He's really young in his 30s Mid 60s.
Is he really? Yeah, he does not look like he says I'm in my 30s again He does not look like he's coming and if he's listening to this but mid 60s all timers Yeah, but you gotta think he's been dealt since his mid 40s or as I like to call it old timers Don't worry. Don't worry. Whoever you are.
I have it too I find my keys in weird places. No, my house is not haunted But you know, if you have stuff in your house, it's like being opened or closed unexplainably I think I just made that word out. Yes, it is Um, you know that could be an indicator again with everything on this list I wouldn't I would say one thing by itself is not necessarily Guaranteed you're haunted. You have to kind of take these things into account.
Um, another one is light string off run by themselves I've got a story for this one too. So I'm looking down to the list. I actually have stories for about half of these none all of them Yeah, so so like but on this one, um, again one of the very early indicators that june was there I just gotten home. I got home from boston monday night tuesday morning.
I get in the car to go run some errands Back up, you know put the car and drive I start going my air conditioner comes on didn't really think much about it Turned off Um in the next hour it came on and turned off well, I would turn it off but it came on like three or four times And I would turn it off and it's a new car. It's a 2014 take it to the mechanic. It's been fine It's been defined before that it's been fine after that. I would take it to the mechanic Um, but there's nothing wrong with it now We sent we sent june packing and it's Doesn't do that another case that we had and this is also you talk county case Uh that we we've actually investigated a couple times got some EVPs from it unfortunately the EVPs And we'll talk about the EVP ranking system on another day But the EVPs that we got from the house their EVPs, but they're not the best quality EVPs You have to have a really good high quality set of a headphones in the volume cranked up if I tried to do it on the podcast You'd have like three or four seconds of nothing and so I'm not gonna play him but uh This house in particular has a really strong female spirit in the house and uh the family's kind of I'm gonna use my air quotations here adopted this female spirit Uh, but the daughter was really tired when they lay in bed and she's listening to some music and they named their ghost millie Uh, I said the daughter was millie.
I'm tired. Can you turn lights out and boom lights went out music turned off Just like that one snap of a finger. Um, but were you there? I was not there for that.
However Um, the first time we investigated that Lerträther in that investigation the first time not the first time but I was there the second time It was because uh brandy p was there that she did not really kind of interact with us very well Yeah, the first time I was there speaking moving objects Uh, there was a wooden block upon a shelf that she actually threw at me. Um, did she throw it out? You did fall off the show She threw it at me and interesting thing is I was doing my audio recordings and as I'm No matter recordings. I asked I said, did you throw that wooden block at me?
If you listen back to the audio and again and I can play it for you here It's like I said, it's so soft that without good headphones Uh, you're not gonna be able to hear it on a podcast. So I'm sorry listeners. I can't play this one for you Ask me some time. I'll play it for you in person.
Uh, but you hear me say, did you throw it when block at me? And you hear really faint females voice go yes Uh on the audio recording. Um Which confirmed what I saw that the block was actually thrown at me. Um, this particular spirit according to the homeowner shifted a 500 pound grandfather clock Uh, a couple of inches which is really unusual for a typical ghost to move something that big and heavy Well, and she also moves a clock in the bathroom and you can see she's moved it so many times You can see on the wall where it's rubbed paint off the wall.
Yeah, she spins the clock uh, three Yeah, an idea degree angle clockwise. Um, and we spent probably a good 10 minutes trying to debunk it Try to see if you could you know pound on the floor and get it to move You have to physically move it to move it. It just doesn't spin on its own. It just it's not designed to sit that way All right, next on the list Uh items disappearing and reappearing.
Um, this isn't one that we've had a whole lot of experience with Um, actually I take that back The design's building with him conures. Uh, we were there actually for that chunk of investigation Uh back in august, uh, and Tim conures was really excited to show everybody uh, uh, a Nazi hat that he had Uh, you know, it's kind of a cool artifact The design's building for those who didn't go and didn't know it is an old building in salt lake, downtown salt lake Uh, they had stored in their costumes. I want to say, I'm taking a stab at art cure Pioneer theater, I think stored a lot of their costumes and props in the building I think so, uh until it could be torn down whichever theater it was There's a bunch of clothing in there, uh, which is cool in and of itself because spirits can't attach to objects clothing in particular Uh, so it kind of makes for most costume storage places make for great areas to go stunt But uh, uh, Tim conures was excited, excited to show everybody this authentic Nazi hat with the pin and everything And when we showed up, it was gone. He couldn't find it anywhere.
Um, Brandy P was there and we were talking to a spirit named Esther who said that she moved it while she was cleaning. Esther the molester. Sorry, I had to throw that I'm just warning it. This is gonna be like pv's playhouse.
Anything that rhymes with molester. I'm saying it It's gonna be like a word. Yeah. Yeah word of the day is molester.
Molester was 84 years old. No Effie is quite the jester. Jester the molester. All right, get out both of y'all Anyway, but she told uh, Brandy P who was with us that she moved it while cleaning Um, it was a few weeks later the hat just turned back up Uh, because I never heard the end of that story.
They did find the hat Yeah, the hat just randomly turned back up cool. Uh, and that's I don't want to say it's common because I haven't seen it very many instances Obviously, this is the only story I can remember this specifically But there are other accounts from other teams investigators of objects just disappearing and then reappearing Um, and again, there could be other explanations and so as far as confirming if something's haunted You want to make sure you get more than one or two of these things Uh, but that is one of those signs that you can look for unexplained shadows is the uh, the next one And when I think of that, I think of the uh, the story and I I had just left before Uh, you you had this experience about the uh, the shadow bebop and cross the uh, I guess cemetery Do you really? Bob, um, you know, that's a good one. I'm not sure we can actually use the location.
That was the secret location Oh, and that one was interesting. I've actually got two stories of unexplained shadows one actually just happened last uh Oh, when was that was that Saturday? Yes, we actually just this last Saturday had an unexplained shadow Uh, instead it happened, which is kind of cool at the uh, the private residence We did a private residence investigation and let me talk about the first one that you're talking about first at the secret location Um, and I think you all have heard the story I'm gonna tell everybody here because I can the thing that upsets me is that I had left maybe five or ten minutes before this happened I was sitting in the exact same spot where you were with everyone else Yeah, I was with uh, I was down in the basement of the secret location Um, and I had Tim Conyers was with me and uh, just the dragon slayer from the radio run on all three of us were down in the basement We just got done clearing out the building making sure everybody was out from the hunt Uh, and I was intentionally like normally when you're with three people you like stand around and kind of a circle and talk to each other Um, since we were at this location, I intentionally kind of had my back to everybody because I wanted to look down this hallway where we're talking We're all doing all three of us and as we're looking also in a perfectly black silhouette of a person Uh, just perfect. Just Christmas can be uh, just walking right across the hall and into the wall And on the audio you can hear me go whoa, did you just see that and hear Tim and Jess just both go?
Yeah So we all saw uh, now the saturday and I don't know if we told you this story or not because you were you were not that investigation Um, no you were at the barbecue. I was at the barbecue, but I remember the story. Okay, so we were at this private residence Uh, and as we're investigating the residence, we found what we believe was three spirits. Um, and there was one it was more of a malevolent, uh Dark entity that was in the crawlspace of this home.
Uh, and the crawlspace of this home was actually pretty big You open the little trap door underneath the stairs and then underneath there. There's the ceiling sprite about four foot high So you could kind of crouch down there. So this is the crawlspace between the foundation and the floor The actual house. Okay, so the ground floor and the foundation and it's got about a four foot clearance So you can get down there and kind of hunch over and Uh, move around and somebody lay plastic on the whole floor down there Uh, so we're down there with the team and there's a smallvolent, uh, negative entity that have been kind of afflicting this homeowner And so the activity he'd been having just to kind of unexplained stuff is he left came home and all his deadbolts have been thrown And he said he never locks his deadbolts.
He actually called and made a police report and had the police come out and investigate his home because he thought somebody had broken into the home Uh, but he basically said that his deadbolts are thrown. He'd come home and his house would be essentially ransacked. Couldn't explain it Um, anyway, we found this negative entity and it was hanging out in this crawlspace In this crawlspace on the west wall, there are two vents to the outside. So there's light coming in Uh towards the east because this isn't the evening.
Uh, it's getting to be summertime. It doesn't go down until late But you can see sunlight coming in from the west Uh, as we're down there We decided we're gonna get rid of this entity and we started doing what we do to get rid of it And as soon as we started you saw this shadow and it was kind of almost bowling pin shaped, uh, kind of How do I describe it? To me it looked I mean from my ankle it looked like a circle But with the bottom kind of chopped off Yeah, to me it was kind of almost Like a rounded head but then just right down at the sides almost like those little cement guards that keep you from driving to car in front doors at Walmart kind of thing Um, I don't know if that's an app description for everybody. Didn't you went into one of those one time?
I mean like run not in a car, but that was the chain I may or may not have run into a chain at one point. It's different story for another time. Different story for another day. Anyway, uh, As soon as we started doing what we do get rid of these negative entities, um The shadow just goes shooting across the wall.
Now the interesting thing about shadows had gone north or south I would have said it was just something outside moving across the the vents, but the shadow actually moved Uh, basically against the law of physics as far as where the light sources were coming from if that makes sense Uh, and all of a sawt and all this kind of went went What was that and one of our team members name is mark and he's actually an engineer And he's other than elhefe over there. He's probably our biggest skeptic Um, he's seen enough that he believes but he will debunk and debunk and debunk until he just runs out of things to debunk I like him already and then he'll accept it and he he looked and moved and tried figuring it out and Basically said there's no explanation for the where that shadow went shooting across Uh, and what had happened actually I turned on some music is what what it kind of caused it to visit across Um, and so that would be an unexplained shadow essentially Um, I've seen one once in my home. It looked like a A silhouette of a person went moved across the hallway towards my daughter's room. That one was it wasn't terribly well defined That's one that I could probably say it might have been my imagination But it might not have been one of one of the spirits in my home is a male and he hangs out mostly in the basement and I have a um 15 year old son that says he sees his shadow all the time I think you guys need to call peter pan and tell him that you found his shadow All right, our next one on the list is uh Strange animal behavior and this is another one like strange noises, which is really subjective Coco, you know those strange animal noises It's probably just your parents.
This is one Which reminds me of a story of your brother in the bedroom. Anyway, well even in what I do Um as a funeral director, I see people that come in and they say you know she or he had a pet Dogger cat and ever since they've passed away. You can tell that the the dog acts differently the cat acts differently And so it's not necessarily from a ghost any perspective But you know there people are made of what I believe to be spirit and with the body as a shell And when they pass away the the spirit leaves and I think animals are sensitive that kind of behavior I've heard it so many times with dogs Act differently and I've said, you know, if you take a article of clothing that used to belong to that person put in the the crib With the animal then it's supposed to comfort them a little bit, but yeah, so that's that's kind of what I've picked up from I was just gonna expand on your you got me thinking about this dog thing And actually I do remember a moment, but I'm gonna write it off because the thing is is I think the mind sees what you want to see But I had a dog and his name was crunk And he was a good dog. No, he wasn't.
He was a terrible dog. Are you gonna cry? No, no, not a tear at all. He was a horrible dog I loved him to death but my definition all dogs are horrible in my world.
No offense if you have handicapped children But he was my retarded son like he was just that bad anyway He was a special dog. He died of cancer about two years ago. Maybe it's been about two years No, it's yeah two years two and a half years ago. He's been great flipper since But it was probably a year or two after that that I came up the stairs And he used to sit at our sliding glass door and just wait to come in and I swear I saw that dog at my sliding glass door and I turned there And I'm like oh and he was gone But I think the problem is is repetition and you get used to seeing that kind of thing And so I came upstairs and I think I was just so used to seeing it that I expected to see him there But when I turned he wasn't there so we actually have run across animal spirits though Both cat and dog spirits.
We've seen in fact a quick story Along those lines as we were a private investigation And this is actually when the first time I've investigated with brandy p Uh, we went to this investigation and I'd set up cameras and I'd send everybody out to start investigating And I kind of pulled brandy p aside and said what what do you see in the video? What do you see in here at the the residents basically? And I pulled her outside to do it and she goes well She goes there's three spirits in the home. She goes there's a little boy an adult man and a female spirit And she goes in the backyard over in that corner.
She goes there's a dog standing there So really okay, and so Everybody went their way investigating later that night. I got talking to the homeowner um And I and again brandy pointed to a certain corner of the backyard and I was talking to a homeowner. I said, uh, You know brandy said we're dealing with you know a male a female a little kid and she mentioned that she saw dog spirit And the homeowner goes oh she goes well. We did have a dog once but we buried it and we buried him right over there She pointed right to where brandy had told me Yeah, right where she said she'd seen the dog But we've even on other investigations.
We've encountered some animal spirits So maybe you did see so are the animal spirits going back to your thing of list of haunted things Because I sorry I hijacked it mine wasn't a sound and you're saying you're saying strange no animal behavior It says you're not right and so we kind of went off into the weeds a little bit there Um what strange animal behavior'd be like the investigation I told you about where we saw the strange shadow on saturday Uh that gentleman had two dogs And he basically said that there's a certain room in the house that these animals would refuse to go into he tried Get him into the go in the room. They would just freak out. Um, I'm just curious which room was it? Uh, you know, I can't remember Um, but that's kind of strange animal behavior There's a certain room that pets are just will not go in Uh if the pets stare in a certain corner of your house and just bark at a corner for an all apparent reason That would be strange animal behavior So you mean when your own animals or animals around you or in your surroundings are acting weird correct?
Generally, you know, if we're talking about someone's house, it'd probably be your own animal Um and just their behavior makes no sense You know, so if my wife's acting weird or if she's acting like an animal then she's probably figured out the true you Either that or she wants some action. Can you say that? She's gonna hear this and kill you. No, she probably jumped my bones because she wants me.
She wants my body All right, let's talk about the next one and this one's uh, this one's my favorite. I'm gonna talk about this one Okay, I'm gonna say because it's kind of hardened subjective and no, it's not I would say looking at it is very subjective feelings of being watched. See this is the one that as far as my personal Bodies ghost detectors. This is the one that I get the most Um, I have a male spirit my basement.
We just talked about that his name's actually Emmett. So if you're at home Write this down Emmett is the ants basement male ghost he That's how I can detect spirits. I just feel like I can just feel them like they're watching me um, I would go down to my basement before I realized he was there and I could feel someone watching me and Sometimes I could feel it sometimes I couldn't and at first I was like, oh, it's the basement You know the whole cliche of the scary basement and um, we talked a little bit about my aunt christa's art christa's creepy basement I think the last podcast and so pardon me thought oh, you know, it's just a little bit of um, post traumatic stress from that Um, anyway come to find out via brandy p. She can't I had her come over and say okay because there is there a male spirit down there She's like yeah, um, but I can you I can feel his moves when June came the the Salem ghost I could feel her standing by the bed glaring at me Um, because she thought I was her accuser for those of you who missed that one Um, from others accused her actually but I could I could feel her standing there staring at me Um, I was in the bathtub and I could feel her, you know Walking back and forth in front of the bathtub.
Um, you know that to me is one of the easier ones to to feel and you know As you say that I'm reminded of another instance of that that's probably explained it as well Uh, we did an investigation in early april Uh a private investigation and usually what I do is I talk to him more from it Then I usually ask him if I can kind of just walk to the house because after you've done this enough You can kind of feel where stuff is at a lot of times Well as I walked through the house, I got to this one room the basement and I walked in like oh, there's something in here And you know one of the other best years with me is like oh yeah, I can feel it too in the home I was really goes like kind of thought that myself because I came down and brought those Jugs and you know pointed some jugs of water to put in the storage of the basement Because I felt like I was being watched when I came down here earlier today. It kind of Greet me out a little bit so it's interesting you guys would say that and so sometimes if you feel like you're being watched you might be being watched Or you could just think you're being watched because you're paranoid or you could think you're being watched you're paranoid again subjective See the hard the hard thing about that one and I'm just saying as far as everything goes I just think it's hard to have solid evidence to prove that you are aren't being watched You could just be creeping yourself out well and again it comes down to us you're going through this list You hopefully if it's just I feel like I'm being watched I like to see three or four things on this list at least before I'm willing to say yep You got right that goes going on and when it comes to any of these really um I have noticed that if I second guess or if I try too hard then I start thinking about it Castle will occasionally send me photos um and I can sense Entities and the photos, but if I think about it too hard, I'm wrong every time I just have to have to look at them really quick and just get the feel and then I'm right almost every time Um, so you really have to go off of your if you start thinking too hard You're gonna invent stuff you have to just go off your first instinct and usually if you have your first instinct you're tend to be fairly accurate I find most people are Based on that I think that half a did see his dog Yeah, I think my mind was playing tricks on me. I kind of think you saw your dog I don't I think that I was used to seeing my dog and it's just repetition. It's just like riding a bike You don't forget it when brandy p comes as a guest.
We're gonna see if your dog is still here. Yeah, no He's not here. He died. All right next thing on the list speaking of feel is feelings of being touched.
Um, I like that one I knew you would So would you be a believer if we took you somewhere and it goes like totally felt yep? I would probably say I'm not sure do that again Can you show us in the doll where you were felt? Have you touched your Ouija board lately? Maybe This one's one um And to be honest with you, I haven't had this in a whole lot I've had a couple instances of this um, it seems to have more to other people than it does to me I know and it gives me a complex.
I want to get like pinched or scratched or something And I've very much got a theory. I'm not gonna share here in the podcast Uh, if any of you see me in public ask me one day and I'll tell you but I'm I'll give you my theory of why But uh, for instance, I was at a 749 with jay verberg from sci-fi's ghost mine And jay and I were walking down the hall and out of the blue jay verberg jumped like 15 feet in the air and like spun around and Said some four letter words and it kind of stopped and said jay. What's up? I swear it felt like someone just grabbed my hand And jay spent like the next 20 minutes out in the hall looking for moths and trying to figure out why it felt like someone grabbed his hand But people will talk about things like that where they feel like someone's either resting a hand on them I had one instance where it felt like someone put their hand on my shoulder and just kind of just felt the pressure of a hand on the shoulder We've had a lot of investigations where people have been scratched I've actually got some photos on the website of some people who've been scratched the scratch marks Actually witnessed it happen to one where on the back of his neck you see clap his hand over his neck and then uh On the photo later you see We're with him so it wasn't like he didn't do it himself, you know to cause handwind there's three dark red scratch marks right down the back of his neck And so you get a lot of that scratching sometimes people get bitten But usually when you're talking about scratches and bites, it's usually something that's more negative But being touched just the feeling of someone grabbing your hand or your arm I think yeah, and you've told me and maybe I'm wrong maybe I'm thinking of somebody else that you felt weight on your bed Like someone's coming on your bed.
Well, I was gonna I was gonna say the closest thing that I felt to be in touch is The other spirit in my home is a little girl or names Mabel. Um, I will feel her that I felt her again just yesterday morning Just climb up on the foot of the bed. I felt her climb on the bed three or four times You're that feeling when a child climbs on your bed. It's that feeling but I'm the only one in the bed It's usually followed up in my house with get off Me too.
No, I want to bring something up on that though Cause I want to get you guys your honest opinion on this because I was like you guys know how I am You know anyway, I can't get to you to a silent 49. You have no idea. Anyway, I had a hopefully you get used to that sound all night I'll turn out on my EDPs. It was a ghost.
Hey, anyway, um, no seriously I had a friend who was down in vinacewela And some people took them to his house and claimed that there was a ghost that could spit on you To the friend's house? No, so my friend my friend was in a house was in vinacewela And some some of some of his friends took him to a house that could spit on you And he said that they they actually went through this house and the lights went off and then suddenly they came back on this big Loki flies through the air And they hit some girl and I was like that's if I were a ghost, that's what I would do That's where sounds highly suspect. It's like a plastic residue Lights go off silly mysterious. Uh, look, he goes flying through the air.
I Before me, you know next time I really pissed off. I'm gonna take you to a spitting house for the lights. Well, something something spits on you Fine, they're definitely not me. You say it's not me, but yet you say ghosts can scratch.
Why can't they spit? Um, it's not so much the theory as opposed to that the lights go off. I mean, well, yeah, that's what we want to be going on We've been on he swears and you know the hard thing about is he's a very credible person I believe him but he swears here's the he saw some ghost spit on somebody here's my explanation That's why they can't and I have to temper this with at the same time. I have to keep an open mind Maybe they can but everything I've seen and experience leads me believe that that's not possible.
Maybe I'm wrong but uh Spit is a physical substance for a physical body ectoplasmic residue And so if you don't have a physical body you can't be you can't produce a physical substance from a non physical body Which is why I would say no my guess is just an astray you told me in debunking mode is that They got your friends psyched up on a story when the lights went out Larry over in the corner hooked a Luke and then the lights went back on and everybody wasn't me Can you mention those guys after they left? We really got you now not to get too far off into the weeds But I will say however, there are instances. I'm not personally dealt with it With some really ugly demonic cases where substances have materialized into homes vomit feces nasty stinky stuff Well, that's the case and they could spit right and that's why I say I'm not gonna completely dismiss it I think it's highly highly highly unlikely, but I Can't completely dismiss. Yeah, and if you're gonna be getting actual demonic Icky nasty fluids.
It's probably going to be doing more than spitting at you Demonic fluids the other day. It was not good Products sorry. No All right, let's see. Uh, so we've covered feelings of being touched cries or whispers.
Um, this one's one that I've actually experienced this myself I have to um I've an interesting story as a Utah Valley regional medical center in provo Uh, I had walked into the emergency room And I was kind of stan or was in the lobby the emergency room. I guess I should say I was just kind of standing there. There's nobody around me There's a room to my left and then the sliding doors right behind me. This is in the middle of the night Uh, wasn't there investigating?
I just was there Um Nobody anywhere near me and also I heard uh, unintelligible male voice right over my left shoulder Uh saying something to me. I couldn't understand what it said But I turned a check and there's a room to my left that was completely empty. Nobody behind me. There's nobody around me who could have Said anything without saying anything to her.
Um, I actually took a picture immediately over my shoulder back over my left shoulder I heard the voice and sent it to brandy and brandy p can see these things and photographs and she goes Oh, there's a dude standing right behind you over your left shoulder, uh, which is where I heard the whisper Um, I've also in my own home, uh, like dianne. I've got some ghosts in my house. They're fairly benign They don't do anything so I don't try and get rid of them because they mind their own business and don't cause problems Uh, but I do have three little girl ghosts in my home, uh, and two adult female ghosts in my home Uh, one night about 2 a.m. I heard uh giggling little girl giggling out in the hallway.
It was really faint but I heard definite giggling Um, I also have girl children of my own that are living, uh, you know So I put my head out just to see if they were up, but it didn't sound like them, but their lights were off. It was dark Um, you know, I waited like any good dad would for several minutes to make sure they weren't up and playing and they were sound asleep Um, I would like to I would like to jump in on that. I have done studies when they're and they've actually done the scientific studies So I've actually read the research not done the studies myself. I'd like to clarify that impressive But and I'm not saying you're schizophrenic Gary, but they've done they've done studies on the human brain with people They're schizophrenic and that hear voices and the audible part of the brain actually lights up when they're when they're doing these studies When these people are saying they're hearing these noises.
Anyway, my point is going back to my cronk story with my dog In the same way that I believe I just got used to seeing my dog at the door I wonder if maybe you just get used to hearing your kids laugh and so you're waiting to hear them laugh and you look out in the hall and there's nothing there Because they're actually sleeping you go home and you know, that's quite certainly possibility. I can't just miss it Um, along with what you're saying and both lurch and yan can testify to this Uh, if you spend the day at a Scottish festival listening to bagpipe music for four or five hours When you leave the Scottish festival you literally hear two and listen bagpipe music in your head for the rest of the night I'm I'm I'm I'm going to kind of debunk that in a way. Yes. Yes.
Yes. Yes. You do here ghost pipes I have heard ghost pipes. It's like if I hear um green hills of federal even one more time.
I'm going to jump off a cliff It's not I've been there been there. Um, however after having done Done it for 31 years Um, you get to a point where the ghost bagpipes don't happen anymore I don't think I have heard ghost bagpipes for probably 10 to 15 years They don't happen to me as much anymore as I used to either so But I just debunked your debunk. No, I don't see how that's debunking at all. I don't see how that's either way I could see the point that you're making um, but given the information I have Uh About the ghost in my house and little bits of evidence.
I've seen I lean towards it being in that but you could be right On the same token though. I can't explain something the growling. I've had it me. I can't explain the male voice Well, we had the um the one of the silent 49 where we heard christian, you know, same mommy.
I'm over here I mean you hear us on the recording, you know saying did you hear that? Unably as well. Yeah, and we played that last week didn't we? Yes.
Those are a little those are a little neater I still think there's probably an explanation for it and again it comes back to kind of know if it reiterated this and the listeners are probably shut up But that's why you wouldn't want to take this by itself. You'd want something aside from this Right. I mean going back to the june my june haunting that was kind of classic, you know, I had things turning on I had You know the lot getting locked and then um, you know, we had unexplained sounds of the piano I had shadows in the bathtub. Um, my daughter heard her cry the only people that were at home were me and my daughter Um, and I live my streets kind of a funky horseshoe and it's a really quiet street You know if someone's driving up the street if someone who lives there or someone visiting someone who lives there It's not, you know, like you just get cross traffic and she was up in a room and she came down and she goes, mommy, okay I'm like, yeah, why is this like her to crying?
And it's just not I mean, we don't have people whaling, you know neighbors whaling all the time. I'm really a quiet quiet neighborhood And I said, you know, you know, it's your sister wait, no, she was asleep. Um, and she goes, no, it wasn't Molly crying. It was you Um, like nope, not crying So, you know in that case I had like four or five of these things Um, you know going on and so that's when you start to scratch your head and go You know too many of these weird things are happening the next one on my list.
Uh, this is one this isn't my favorite one This is one that to me is probably one of the most objective on the entire list Uh, and that's the colder hotspots. Um, you know, sometimes you'll be somewhere else and you get cold or full hotspot um sounds of temperature for me are both hard because Again, like the fear factory you hear chains. Oh, it's a ghost now. It's an old building with chains It could be a train rumbling by making the chains wiggly it could be any number of things unless you physically see the chains moving Unexpectedly say use that homemade word again with your own eyes It's hard to me, you know, I like to laugh they get goals to whispers Um, but hot cold spots are tough because what's hot or cold one person's not necessarily is hot or cold to another And others temperature gauges we use to help do that Uh, but again, hot or cold spots are tough.
The best example I can think of Um, for me would be and I know last podcast we talked about our scary at christmas house Um, that one room in that northwest corner, uh, where we have the creepy dream that room was always that Tyrum is always just icy icy cold without fail I can't think of a time that room was ever not like 15 to 20 degrees colder than the rest of the entire house You guys should have put a heater in there a space heater You know, and that's interesting you say that um just to see Well, no, and the reason I say that is that's interesting I didn't think about it until you said that but we talked about the treadmill case a little bit earlier in this Podcast with the gentleman who lived alone and in his bedroom He said his bedroom has always icy cold and he actually had brought in several space heaters And he just said he could never ever ever get warm in that bedroom Um, after we did some things to help alleviate the activity Uh, we actually got rid of it entirely for about a month Um, and it's interesting because as soon as we got rid of it goes, you know, it goes as a first time of urban warm in that bedroom I've had to use a space heater and actually warms up decent Um, you know, then after a month the activities start to pick up again Um, we went back in uh, did some other things and the activity is it's still active in his garage But the rest of the house is pretty calm at this point But yeah, the space heater thing that made me think of that that he use space he's still gonna get warm in his bedroom Uh, with the activity in his house Anybody else have any hotter cold spots stories you want to chime in with? He gets cold in this room because I turned the vent off Crunk All right, let's see unexplained odors Okay, let me just chime in on this before we get going If you go on a public ghost hunt or a private ghost hunt with us If you douse yourself in perfume, you'll make me very annoyed and I'll glare at you all night Yeah, if you win the boobearnaming, please don't slather yourself in smelly cloned before you come that night We will all be angry at you. We're don't flatuate your flatulence stays home If you fart just tag it just own it. That was me then it becomes an explained odor No, um Sometimes spirits can manifest through smell.
I know some people have talked about all sudden smelling like cigarette or cigar smoke out of the blue I know it the secret location where I saw the full blown apparition Periodically, you'll just add the blue smell chocolate at this location That's not the kind of place you're gonna be smelling chocolate at. I'll just say that and I've had that happen at the funeral home that I used to work at There was a woman that passed away and her husband ended up passing away about maybe four or five months later And we had had her funeral service reviewing in one part of that building And so when her husband passed away, we put him in his casket in the same spot And I remember I don't think it wasn't me that it was one of my co-workers that had said You know, if you go into that room where her husband is you can smell a woman's perfume and no one had been in that room prior You know, just us moving the casket in get everything set up we closed the doors But yeah, there were a couple people that were able to walk in and say it smells like women's perfume All women's perfume and no one's been in this room. No one's been spraying women's perfume Story when I was about 21 years old just got back off a LDS mission and went out with a 20-some-odd-year-old gal who was wearing home ladies perfume But it was a one-time date because she smelled like an old lady regardless So smell can be an issue. I know that we had we've had a few investigations where people showed up to slather and clone and it really sucks Don't do it Because everybody just smells you and if there was any olfactory evidence, they're not going to pick it up I'll on the flip side of the strange on explain orders.
We talked about chocolate. We've talked about flowers and perfume There are accounts and one of our team members specifically had something happen to him. We said right before it happened He smelled horrible horrible stench and a lot of times with Negative or and I hate you this word because some people in the paranormal community don't like this word But demonic entities a lot of times will manifest as putrid smells decaying corpses vehicle matter vomit The putrid smell you name it and when also I just I want to say and when he felt or when he smelled the the stench as well He I'm a really so that he tasted like metallic taste of that just throat I like yes, they do or something. Yeah, so I'm explaining smells can be something I know I've got a co-worker who says that she periodically smells cigar smoking her house and nobody in her family smokes the previous owner didn't smoke You know she has a theory as to who it may as to who it may be But you know you just go look for those and another one I was really close to my at Krista both my grandparents had died by the time I was five And every once in a while I just get a brief smell that reminds me of her and I don't think she's haunting the house I believe she is crossed over but crossed over spirits can come visit and I think every once in a while she's put her head in because everyone's Not just a really brief that smells like Krista's house and that's gone I think one other thing we need to remember too is that the the smell is the feller So if there isn't an explain odor then I think you need to look at LFA check it check check what you ate earlier I don't shower or wear cologne or deodorant.
So just keep that in mind. I'm a 20th we ask you to shower Okay, sorry this podcast is running just a little bit longer. We're gonna finish this list up and then we'll call it a night The next one on our list is moving or levitating objects I know what I'm talking about we've talked about this a little bit and if you haven't yet when you get home watch that demon in canadicates Video on our website. It's got some moving objects in there.
I already relayed the story about the wooden block being thrown at me Design building and I know chunga had a couple of publications there at zion building We also had several private investigations there on our own one particular evening. It was me Tim Conyers and a couple other investigators It was just four of us but throughout the night There's two ladders on the floor that we're on and as we would investigate these ladders were actually changing locations throughout the night So it'd be in one spot and then we'd go you know to the third floor when we come down and ladder had been moved over a couple of Isles from where it was initially there weren't people using the latter no there's only four people in the building oh I must admit You say that yeah, there's only four of us in the entire building. It's a non-time investigation. Yeah, night time investigation was there's closed No in fact again, it's pretty interesting about that.
Yes. I do I'm waiting for full blown apparitions. Thank you. Yes It's gonna say Full roaming vapor real nasty one too.
The design building had some really nasty stuff in it There's so much I'd like to go into but I don't want to go too far off track So I'm also about for other days and other stories But yeah, these ladders would move so we'd all go up to the third floor come down ladder We would have moved across the room to a different spot. There's one room that you could feel a really strong presence in Tim Conyers and I were in the room we came out went into a different room came back a few minutes later And Tim just about brookies neck tripping over a chair that had been placed on the doorway that we'd just come out of So there were objects actually moving around the location you should bring flashlights. So that doesn't happen Well, you do try and use flashlights But at the same time you try and be in there are as much as you can when you investigate the reason being is because there are light anomalies You like you know people talk about warps a lot of times you can actually see these glowing arms moving around with the lights If the lights are off if the lights are on you miss a lot of stuff little little hunt trick When you go take a list because it usually gives you enough light to be able to see but it doesn't really make vision Okay next on the list Physical assault so how's this different from just being scratch your touch or spitting low-gees this would be a little bit different This is a pretty more long line of bites, and I know I talked about that a little bit But any here people that get pushed people have been pushed choked Greg Pascal from Greg's music guide also on pog got one website in the design building He's actually physically choked that remove him from the building one of our investigators to him the slob whisper He hates that name Anyway, he was physically attacked at the science building I was actually a different investigation helping Ben Hanson out and he called me In a panic I literally jogged from one investigation backward design spilling work Tim was in charge And I mean is a full-grown 30-some-odd-year-old man just in full-blown tears over what had happened to him In fact at that particular time I actually went to the building to clear the building went up to the third floor You know I was trying to get everybody out because of all the negative stuff that had happened and the attacks had happened on the third floor I could hear an intelligible whispering here It was conversation you can understand the words but you can hear the whispering as I Move down from the third floor to the second floor It sounded like a football team or come down the one stairs behind me from the third floor to the second floor So I'm like just probably about 10 guys stomping down the stairs behind me, you know, there's nobody there to do their football team So like a ghostly photo to 35 it just sounds like 10 burly guys coming down the stairs They have deflated football. I don't know they have deflated balls cuz they're gold.
I still have my peters go Steelers sport sucks Yes, I said that sports sucks. All right, so that would be physical assault. Thank you. I've some of our listeners Sports like sports all right, I'm explain physical evidence Anyone want to take a get again or what that would be I know I'm just here to see if you guys can read my mind feces vomit that could be Unexplained physical evidence would be strange handprints writing strange writing.
I've got a photo on our website that was taken where a woman had come home And there was handprints on her mirror that she couldn't explain I should actually take a picture of the handprints, but I actually see an apparition behind her in the photograph that's on the website A male spirit sitting on a chair, but so that would be unexplained physical evidence You come home and you see you will die scroll on your wall and red spray paint would be physical evidence That's when I say jokes on you. You're already dead That one's unexplained physical evidence is one of the more rare things it doesn't happen very often, but handprints again writing things of that nature and Then last but not least is full blown apparitions and I already kind of told my story about the full blown apparition in the basement of the secret location Deans is actually involves design building is actually a pretty good story. So let her tell that one this one was we've gone to the design building to do an investigation and my husband and I'd actually gotten there first and I knew where the key to the building was But I don't want to go in because of some things that happened a couple times there before I thought no I'm gonna wait for everybody to get here was that after Tim and been attacked? Yes No, no, that was the same day that was the same day.
I was the start of that same day Okay, so this was but we've been there a couple times before and creepy things that happen is I'm like No, I'm not gonna go in until everyone's there so my husband and I are sitting there and it's kind of back You have to walk around to get to the loading dock where we were loading dock where we were I'm sorry, I was not talking in the microphone and It's not really I mean it's in downtown South Lake But where we were there's just not a lot of foot traffic and we're sitting there and it was a little chilly And I had a jacket in the car and my husband said I'll go grab it for you so I'm sitting there by myself and You know this sitting and staring at the sky waiting for people to come well a lady walks out of the Zion building and scared the crap At me because I'm already kind of an uber I don't want to go in here because there's scary stuff And I turn and look and it's I'm made it's a little lady. I'm noticed respect she was Hispanic That they're all made but just I mean it was a physical person I could see her I could describe her She was a small Hispanic woman. She had on a made outfit I mean it was a made uniform she had a little tray it had you know toilet mops and Well she what she what she got So no she was like hot. Oh French made up it no she was like in her she was probably in her 50s I mean I could you could put her in a lineup and I could pick her out of a lineup and so So she walks over you know around the corner She comes back like two minutes later with a mop and she goes in the building and my husband hadn't come back And I'm thinking what on earth is she mopping in there because this place is filthy and they're gonna tear it down I don't know if it's still standing, but it's it's destined to come down and think I want the heck I mean it's just storage it's dusty it's this building's got like water damage in it's just it's It's not a building you'd pay some hate no it's awful And so she comes back out and she you know like two minutes later and she leaves and so about that time my husband comes back And I I said oh you dismiss this funny story I'm sitting here You know freak out a little bit about this building and this lady walks out and scares me that we both laugh ha ha ha ha Well fast forward a couple months well me interject here Okay, like probably five minutes that's happened I showed up with the rest of the team and yeah, I kind of relate the story to me And I'm I go in the building and it'd been a long drive and I kind of had to be start running in there And I'm looking at the toilet going she did a crappy job because this toilet's gross And so we kind of spent the first 20 minutes to figure out what the heck she'd been cleaning because the whole building was still Right, so fast forward a couple months and we're on a on one of Changa's hunts at Fort Douglas and Tim Conyers is there Tim Conyers is there and he I'm having a microphone problem today and We're doing some rotations and we're on a rotation with him and things are a little bit slow where we're at with him And so I relate the story to him was I hate you think this is funny and he gives me the weirdest look And he said nobody cleans that building because he's one of the people that has there's two people that have a key to this He was the caretaker right and he said he says I'm the caretaker and he says there's one other woman That has a key to the building and she's you know tall and blonde Excuse me.
He says nobody cleans that building So that in there good Very The lady with the moon sounds like a horror movie mop lady So anyway, and I know we've kind of beat this horse to death But any just one of these things by themselves, I mean unless you're in your own home when you see an apparition Which you know shouldn't be there Generally you can look for combination of these things like I said before most places actually are haunted to some extent It's just how active the spirits in any given location are But if you know any haunted locations if you have a location you'd like us to come check it out Let us know you can reach us through the list.org webpage in the context section again before we call it a night We are having our boobearr naming contest again one Guest and whoever well, I sure watch that sentence whoever wins in one guest there we go We'll be able to come with us on a private investigation And we will let you know on May 21st was when we announced that and you can put you can submit your entries one entry per person To podcast at wisps.org Hey Castle, I'd also like to add that we we're interested in your feedback, too So is that a somewhere they can send feedback to what what do you guys like to hear? Do you have any questions? Is there things that you'd like to see on another pot? Well, not see but you know here here the wisps talk about on another podcast You know comments are always good and feedbacks always good.
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