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EPISODE · Apr 17, 2026 · 33 MIN

America Already Crossed the Line in Iran. What Happens Now? w/ Oona Hathaway

from Make It Make Sense with Grant Hermes · host Grant Hermes

The war in Iran may be ending, maybe, but the legal and moral reckoning is just beginning. Grant sits down with Oona Hathaway, Yale Law School professor and one of the country's foremost international law experts, to confront the questions most people aren't ready to ask: has the United States already violated the laws of war in Iran, and if so, what does that mean for America's place in the world once the fighting stops?In this episode:Why over 100 international lawyers say the war itself was illegal under the UN Charter and the U.S. ConstitutionWhat the strikes on schools, hospitals, and civilian infrastructure mean under the Geneva ConventionsWhether Trump's threats to destroy "an entire civilization" cross into genocide territoryHow America's allies are quietly building a world that doesn't depend on us anymoreWhy the consequences of breaking these norms don't end when the war does — and what accountability could actually look likeLINKS: MAKE IT MAKE SENSE SUBSTACKOONA HATHAWAYJUST SECURITYPROMO CODES: This episode is brought to you by Akila SunglassesDon’t get caught wearing last summer’s sunglasses this spring break. Akila offers great frames for every style, without the designer price tag. Use the code MIMS25 to get 10% off your entire order👉 Shop now: AKILA.laSupport the showFollow along on social media SaySo: @GrantHermes X: @GrantHermesInsta: @Grant__HermesTiktok: Grant_Hermes

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The war in Iran may be ending, maybe, but the legal and moral reckoning is just beginning. Grant sits down with Oona Hathaway, Yale Law School professor and one of the country's foremost international law experts, to confront the questions most people aren't ready to ask: has the United States already violated the laws of war in Iran, and if so, what does that mean for America's place in the world once the fighting stops? In this episode: Why over 100 international lawyers say the war i...

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