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EPISODE · Aug 16, 2026 · 1H 20M

Americans: An Ungovernable People | Interview: Kevin D. Williamson

from The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg · host The Dispatch

You thought it was over. After the Napoleon III Remnant ran nearly two hours, observers and pundits the world over said this had to be the end. How could anyone, even Jonah Goldberg, have an appetite for more? But wait—who’s that dark figure lurking in the wings? Oh no. It’s … Kevin D. Williamson.  Apparently Jonah’s chemical addiction to 19th-century French politics stirred something in Kevin’s mind, so much so that the man began writing a book about “the sacrosanct presidency.” And they say deeply fruitful intellectual friendships are dead. But don’t worry, gentle listener—if you’re sick of Napoleon III, there’s plenty more to feast upon at this Remnant smorgasbord, including democracy, Henry VIII, anarchism, individualism, competing rights claims, Woke 1, civil rights, and the American ethos.  Show Notes: —Napoleon III Remnant —New Yorker article on data centers —Kevin’s book: The Smallest Minority: Independent Thinking in the Age of Mob Politics —Jonah’s book: Suicide of the West —Willmoore Kendall: “The Two Majorities” —Aaron MacLean Remnant  The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a nonpartisan perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including the Saturday Ruminant, audio versions of all our articles and newsletters, and Jonah’s twice-weekly G-File—⁠click here⁠. Instructions on how to set up your members-only feed can be found here, and if you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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