America’s Limits, Iran’s Leverage, Pakistan’s Moment: Maleeha Lodhi on a Shifting Order

After almost six weeks of war, how did Pakistan manage to get the US and Iran to talk? Amid a still-fragile situation in the Middle East, that question sits at the heart of this conversation with Maleeha Lodhi. She has served as Pakistan’s ambassador to Washington, as well as to the UK and United Nations. For her, the Islamabad talks mark a moment of wider significance, as the middle powers demonstrate their capacity to influence geopolitics.Read this interview with Mishal’s notes on Bloomberg Weekend: www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview02:55 - Pakistan as a peacebroker05:00 - Field Marshal Asim Munir and President Trump07:49 - Pakistan and Iran10:00 - Economic pain in Pakistan13:40 - Israel and Lebanon14:45 - “I'd like to be optimistic”19:30 - US miscalculations22:00 - “US dominance is fading”23:00 Middle powers can “shape geopolitics”23:53 - Is China a winner? 29:00 - Trump’s Board of Peace29:50 - “Common ground can be found” Contact The Mishal Husain Show [email protected] Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.