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Amin Elhassan: Why Will Ferrell Outranks Robert De Niro

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Who is the best #58 in history? Dave goes with Jack Lambert. But our guest Amin Elhassan goes with Derrick Thomas. We then get into the weeds with the word, bust. You can bust in a bad way. But if someone makes you a bust it means you've had a hall of fame career. This leads us to Las Vegas. Is it okay to vacation there with your kids? Or is it purely an adult zone? We finish it up with Amin ranking Tom Cruise and Will Ferrell's body of work over that of Robert De Niro. Yes, he went there. It's a wide ranging conversation with one of the top minds in sports. AUDIO Football America! is available wherever you listen to podcasts. Leave us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/football-america/id1831757512 Follow us: Dave Dameshek: https://x.com/dameshek Gino Fuentes: https://x.com/Gino_Fuentes Mike Fuentes: https://x.com/mikefountains Host: Dave Dameshek Guests: Amin Elhassan Team: Gino Fuentes, Mike Fuentes, Ethan Bedowsky Director: Danny Benitez Senior Producers: Gino Fuentes, Mike Fuentes Executive Producer: Soup Campbell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hi and hello, my fellow football Americans. We've got the man from Basketball Illuminati and Cinephobe and the Dan Levitard Show, our pal Amin Elhassan, coming up. Meantime, I made the delinquent about my role as uniform czar, or the uniform. And call me what you want.

I'm an aesthete, the Bo Brummel of sports fashion. So let me real quick give you my belated opinion on the Tennessee Titans' new get-ups, which are really kind of sort of their old get-ups before they transitioned from the Oilers into the Titans and swapped out Houston for Nashville. First, I like them very much. Summoning one's nomadic past is a good idea.

By themselves, then, the uniform and gives these get-ups a B+. But, of course, nothing exists in a vacuum in the copycat league, and the NFL is now lousy with powder blue. Easy to overreact to the shiny new object there in Nashville, but I'm going to still ride with the Chargers as my favorite powder blue ensemble. But the Carolina Panthers also wear a very similar shade of blue, and the Dolphins wear aqua, and the Jags wear teal, and 15 of 32 teams now wear a jersey that's some shade of blue.

Well, the Cowboys prefer their white jersey still, I think, but less and less over the last decade. And I'm worried on behalf of the players, don't you know? Back in the 80s, Bills QB Joe Ferguson couldn't distinguish his own teammates from AFC East defenders because four of the five teams wore white helmets, so they switched them to red. And now with more and more matchups of home and home uniforms, I'm worried the NFL's aesthetics are falling back into SEC territory.

Six out of 16 SEC schools. Bam, A&M, Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina, and Mississippi State wear maroon and white. Did you know that? Yeah, of course you did, because if you watched them at all, it looked like a scrimmage out there.

I'm keeping my eye on you too, Big Ten, with five of your teams wearing red and white. Okay, it still means more, or maroon's more in the SEC. What I'm getting at is, it's too much! Or as the bad kid, or bad guy, or whatever he was in The Incredibles put it, when everyone's super, no one is.

And the same goes for powder blue. Meantime, I'm getting hot under the collar here. It's April, not much madness left. We've got the Masters on the way, some baseball.

All of it adds up to us all being a little bit closer to football. So let's start the show. Yes, hi and hello, my fellow football Americans. Welcome to Football America, presented as ever by our pals at DraftKings.

DraftKings, the crown is yours. And here's for something for you to do. Subscribe! Subscribe wherever you find podcasts, to our YouTube page, Football America.

Remember the exclamation point. We appreciate you doing that. Pablo Torre shadowed our doors a week ago. We appreciate all the thoughts from that episode.

That was a really juicy one. And the week before that, we had the king of all drafts now, Daniel Jeremiah. So join the conversation. A good one on the way today as well.

And on our way to Pittsburgh, PA for the draft. So make sure you're tuning in there. Like I mentioned at the top, it's our old pal joining us today for the show. We're going to talk about football.

We're going to talk about basketball. We'll talk about the game of life and we'll talk about movies. Amin Elhassan, what's the poop, fella? How you been?

The poop is regular and consistent every morning around 8 a.m. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent.

So as you know, there was a buzzer beater that led to the final four in college basketball. I want to talk to you about that. I want to talk to you about Danny Hurley. I want to talk to you about Gino Auriemma and all the rest of it.

Before we jump into that, though, quick question for you and for the guys. Oh, actually, before we get to that, we got to settle our usual hash here. It's episode number 58. And so, Gino Fuentes, the floor is yours.

Who is the player or the players in contention for the greatest ever wear that jersey number in NFL and sports history? We're in linebacker territory here. So we're getting to number 58 here. Jack Lambert, Derek Thomas, Von Miller, Jesse Tuggle, Kim Bockamper, if you're a Dolphins fan.

The only one that comes to mind for NHL is Chris Letang. I can't think of a baseball one off the top of my head. Anyone got a 58? That's Hager.

That's Hager, number 58. You know what? I'm going to start off as a nice fella here. I'm going to give this one.

I'm going to defer to Amin here. Who's the greatest number 58? Oh, Derek Thomas, right? No, no, no.

He was very good, but I'm going to go with Jack Slatt. I mean, he's the face of pro football, right? Is he? You know, out of context, if you said, show me the defining putum, face, mug of the Super Bowl era, is there one better than Jack Lambert with the toothless grin?

How many teeth did he have left at the end? I don't know, but I mean, am I overstating things? I feel like you're doing a thing here again. I'm not trying to get your goat.

Just a little, little, you took that terrible towel away for a second, right? He sacks in the game once or something like that. It was amazing. Listen, he was spectacular, and I mentioned the NFL draft.

What is it, 89 or 93? I always forget. Four of the first five picks are not just Hall of Famers. They are all-time greats.

And the second pick is Tony Mandarich. So it's four busts in the Hall of Fame, and then at the other end of the spectrum, an all-time bust in Tony Mandarich. Which reminds me again, Amin, you're a wordsmith. Bust is our rangiest word in our language.

I mean, it has so many. Think about the complete ends of the spectrum. If you're great, as in one of the all-time greats, they will make a bust of you and put it into a Hall of Fame. Or if you're a bust, you're the worst.

Yes. Makes no GD sense. Well, look, hey, and if they make a bust of you in the Hall of Fame, you might be privy to some other busts. Which you get busted.

At which point, you will bust. Yeah, well, you know what? And also, you can bust at the craps table. And that reminds me to ask you this.

It's spring break week for a lot of people, including for my kids, Jean-Claude Van Damme-acheck and his siblings, all with a window of 48 hours. And I wanted to do something with them this week with all four kids overlapping at the same time. And the best I could come up with was a quick road trip to Las Vegas. Amin, does that make me a good parent or a bad parent?

It depends. 18, 17, 12, and 9. Yeah, look, I'm speaking as someone who goes to Vegas very frequently for work. And I cannot think of anything more off-putting than children in Las Vegas.

I can't stand it. Oh, you're one of those. You're not somebody who complains about children on 30,000 feet in the sky. No, no, no, no, no.

Just in Las Vegas. This is, like, planes, hey, we all have to get somewhere. These kids don't control it. Like, what are you going to do?

There's no airline that's just for kids, right? But Vegas is a uniquely adult experience. I don't want to see people who are not of age anywhere. It kills me every time I'm walking the strip at 2.30 in the morning.

A certain amount of... What are the kids doing out there? I don't have any idea. I don't know what the kids are doing.

Any of my kids out on the strip at 2.30 in the morning. Gino, that's my question. It's 2.30 in the morning. What are you doing?

I've seen them in a stroller. They're pushing them in a stroller. And the kid's hopping. I'm like, go to bed.

That's crazy. Go to bed. The kid doesn't want to see strippers handing out cards. How dare you assume that?

I think that this is, I... Listen, I'm rationalizing. I'm the one doing it. But consider, if I just told you without the weight of Sin City and all of that, you know, the reputation.

If I told you, there's a land that offers up, very affordably, by the way, big swimming pool and cartoon scenes to drink in with your eyeballs and buffets, breakfast buffets, and golf and all of that. I mean, that sounds like a good place for kids. I'd say, what are you showing up to Scottsdale? I have a good question for you.

I mean, you have to speak on behalf of all Phoenix sports fans in just a second. Maybe I'll get there. But before we do that, Fuentes boys, weigh in. I know Amin has me feeling bad about myself.

So, I was once one of these Vegas kids. My dad loved Vegas. He lived in Vegas. He was a blackjack dealer in Vegas for a long time.

So, we were eight years old That worked in the 20th century, but there's not much evidence of being that cat and it working this century. How so? Well, I mean, what I would say is that, first of all, those two things run hand in hand. Like, the idea, I'm not co-signing it, but the idea that, hey, part of my success is because of the way I approach it, is my attitude towards this.

And that's why I'm successful. Like, we see the most famous example is, obviously, Michael Jordan, that people think, oh, Michael Jordan was an asshole, but that's why he was successful. As if, without being an asshole, he could have never been that successful. When you talk about coaches, particularly modern-day coaches, I think it's true you see it more often in college, usually of the older guys.

So, Tom Izzo is a hard-o, to use your term. He's still around. I think Calipari, even though he comes off as very slick and polished to the outside world, internally, he's someone who's very demanding of his players. In the NBA, not so much, because, I mean, it's kind of evolved that way when you have guys that are making multitudes more money than you are, not only because that's how much they're paid, but also that's how much more important they are.

You really cannot coach in that way. The closest thing we probably have right now is J.J. Redick on NBA level. I was going to say that!

And that's ironic. Yeah, it's more a lot of snarky commentary rather than, you know, what you think of with Danny Hurley, which is outright screaming in people's faces. As far as that goes, this then works neatly with my next question for you, as I cobble together this list of the most loathsome figures that we've experienced as sports fans. Let's try to do it over the last 30 or 40 years.

Here's my list. Dan Hurley is now on it. Bob Knight. I went to Indiana University.

I wrote him a letter in my senior year and asked if I could come by and interview him. And I remember saying that I'd like to show you, Coach Knight, that, you know, you hate the media. I want to show you that our school is producing a better generation of journalists upcoming here. And lo and behold, I sent the letter as a lark, and a week later I called up and I got the assistant, who then became famous or infamous later on for having a plant thrown at her head by the aforementioned Bob Knight in the office.

I called her, and she said, Yeah, Coach Knight will see you on the floor next Wednesday at blank time. And I was like, What? She said, Yeah, Coach Knight will meet you there. He'll finish up practice, and then you guys can have your conversation.

And so then I was wracked with nerves for the next several days. And then I went over there, and I brought a camera with me, obviously, to capture it on video. I had a shooter with me. And we went out there.

And this is in the age of Calbert Chaney and Greg Graham and Alan Henderson and all of those guys. A would-be legendary team that came up just short in the Final Four against Duke. But they're all around. They're shooting their free throws to wrap up practice.

And right in the middle of the floor comes Bob Knight, 6'4", 6'5". As he approached me with that gait that you always have there, like John Wayne, well, almost like John Wayne, as he came over to me, he was half-man, half-eagle. And he said, What's with this camera? You didn't mention anything about a camera.

And I was like, Well, I want to capture it on video, obviously. This will help me get a job in the future. So he was already put off by the interview. I asked him a question.

I asked him another question. And then he said, Let me stop you here. If you can get your shit together by tomorrow, you can come back and try it again. Was your shit not together?

Yeah, what was the question like that you didn't have your shit together? Were you hemming and hawing the question? I asked him. No, I was not hemming and hawing more than I usually do.

Did you go up and say, What's the poop, fella? Maybe. Maybe I did. So what?

That would throw me off. Well, I did joke on the way over there, wouldn't it be funny if Bob Knight got into us like he does the average journalist? And then all of a sudden he was doing it, and it wasn't so funny anymore. I said something to him.

They'd gotten whipped by Kansas the year before. And so I said, Is there any sense of revenge among the guys? And that was out of bounds for him for some reason. I don't know why.

Did you ask him if it was a Muslim game? I didn't. So I said, All right. Well, and then he turned to walk away, and he got five, 10 feet away.

And then he turned back around and he said, You know what? I'm going to need that tape. And so the guy took it out. It was one of those high eight tapes, the size of a little old cassette kind of thing.

And he took it off. And then we're standing there like, Oh, my God, like a cold sweat. Like, Oh, my God, I can't believe that just happened. Bob Knight just swore at us.

And then the shooters like, I have other stuff on that tape. I need that tape back. Come to think of it. We can't just let him have it.

And so then we go knock on the locker room door. Yes, a trainer pokes his head out. He's like, I don't know, guys. I don't know where that tape is at this point.

I mean, it was 90 seconds later. I don't know where that tape is at this point. Then the trainer walked back out after a few minutes and said, Sorry, boys, that tape's gone and just kept on walking, like kind of chuckling to himself. And then I really had to look inside myself.

I had to have a long conversation with the man in the mirror. Coach Knight was challenging me to up my game. Do I show up the next day? There were some moments where I thought, No, I'm going to teach him a lesson and ghost him.

But sure enough, I did go back the next day. With the same shooter? With the same shooter. And I asked him a couple softball questions.

At the end, he said, Now that's how you do an interview. And he said, And I got you something. And he produced the tape from the day before. And it was all taped and glued together.

And when we put it into the machine, it didn't work anymore. But the effort was made. That was my experience with Bob Knight. Bottom line is, he's an asshole bully.

So he's on the list. Where do Tom Brady and Bill Belichick rank? Are they hated more than they're loved? You know what?

I've turned around on this. When they were Patriots, I hated them. Anytime they talked to them, anytime you asked them a question, I despised the answer because they wouldn't say shit. But then Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay.

And him and Gronk were fucking pleasant. And Bill Belichick now has this 20-something-year-old girlfriend. He's funny to me now. And somehow, in spite of having the 20-something-year-old girlfriend and he's in Chapel Hill, which, by all accounts, I've never been, but by all accounts, there's picture-exed and picture-exed.

Somehow, he's a pitiable figure now. I don't like him anymore. I still dislike Belichick. But the other side of that is, I mean, it's Brett Favre, who I think everybody kind of liked when he was a player, except for the tail end of things.

I thought it got ridiculous. And I don't understand how Packers or Vikings fans ever found their way into rooting for that guy. If you're a Vikings fan, he tormented you for a decade and a half. Who cares if he's the missing piece?

It ain't worth giving up your dignity. He was pretty good, though. No. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Think about this. Is it, oh, this guy tormented me, or is it, hey, Packers, I got your quarterback. Right. Is that more the feeling that you have?

Like, oh, this thing that you guys are going to put in the Hall of Fame, guess what? He's our quarterback now. And if he had been successful, gotten to the Super Bowl, and won a Super Bowl for them, it's the ultimate. It's like, yeah, we stole your quarterback, and you guys pushed him out of the door and said he wasn't good enough.

Guess what? Good enough to get me one. I guess that makes some sense. Now, the answer is largely, is that what you would do if you're a Vikings fan?

Yes, which is why I can't imagine why the Packers so quickly turned around and embraced them a couple years after he retired. I'd be like, no, man, wasn't good enough for you to play in Lambeau, the greatest joint you could play in in pro football. You had to run off. You could have gone to a lot of places.

You didn't have to go to a division foe, but you did. And if you're the Vikings and you win a Lombardi, and your Lombardi count is the same as it was for the Packers, then I guess you do have the edge. Either way, it's gross Never taking steroids and then like two days later, I have to take steroids. You know, it was tough for him.

But I mean, I think he went kind of light on Belichick. Curt Schilling. That's a good one. Yeah, that's right.

That's post-career stuff. Yeah. But imagine if you're Belichick, it's a human being. I hope that the majority of us can agree that Aaron Hernandez is the worst human being.

Then Bill Belichick, but I think your foot... I think your sports heart would tell you that you dislike Belichick more than you like Aaron Hernandez, right? I have one for Amin. I want to get his take on this.

Post-career, Michael Jordan's taken a beating. That's only because he was so high. Yeah, that he can only come down. And he can only come down.

But he still occupies a very rare air, no pun intended. Like he's still a deity. He's just a little bit more tarnished than he was when he was playing. Oh, you just said, but that reminds me, Mike.

Bill Laimbeer. Even though you cannot have a list like this without putting him on there. I think that's mostly for players, right? Like I don't think a lot of...

I guess if you were like a Bulls fan. No, no, no, no, no. People hate Laimbeer. Now I don't know where his Q rating is.

But in his time, people hated Laimbeer. People hated Mahorn. People hated and probably still do hate Isaiah Thomas. That whole Pistons team.

Except for Joe Dumars. Joe Dumars was the one everyone liked. Kenny Smith tells this funny story about being a rookie and playing against those bad boy Pistons. And he said, you know, they went on a little run or whatever his team did.

And so they called timeout. And they're walking past the bench. Walking past the bench. And they're crossing.

You know, their bench is over here. Pistons benches over there. And as they crossed, Joe Dumars clips him on purpose. Hard.

And Kenny's like, I'm doubled over. I'm out of breath. And all I could muster was like, I thought Joe was one of the good ones. It was like the betrayal of Joe Dumars doing something dirty.

Was way worse than that actual getting your wind knocked out. By the way, I'm starting this conversation, like I think I did say, over the last 30 or 40 years. If you get to the mid-20th century and before, a bunch of racists. Ty Cobb and all those guys.

They're much worse. The question I was going to ask for you is, and Christian Laettner leads into the shot that vanquished Duke the other day. And revenge best served cold because Christian Laettner way back when knocked UConn out of the tournament before he made the famous shot against Kentucky. He also put them out, put UConn out in the Meadowlands.

You know, prisoner of the moment stuff. And everybody's so cynical and everybody has to pull cold. Like it was a dotted press of the shot. First of all, one thing I will say is that the UConn kid who had just made a three-pointer 30 seconds before in that game to make it a game and make it plausible that the Huskies might in fact pull this thing off.

He makes that shot. How many human beings in that spot, given the evidence of like, I just drilled that three, don't shoot it when the ball comes back into your hands with three seconds to go. Instead you pass it off to somebody else. That was a wild move and underrated.

The kid stroking it from, you know, 28. It was impressive too. But give him the ball up in that spot, right? I got an argument with Dan Levitard earlier this week about this.

I told him like, hey. Oh, you did? Yeah, you caught him. It's a shocker, right?

He never does that. I said, UConn, this is part of, this is the experience. That's a roster of mostly sophomores, juniors and seniors versus Duke, which had, I think, only 20% of its minutes played from a season ago returning to this roster. Some of these guys had been around for the championship and certainly for the final fours.

So when you, when you put that into perspective, that's a veteran move. Even though the kid who hit it was a freshman, the guy who made the pass was an upperclassman and he made the smart heady play because at the end of the day, Dave, what we're watching on TV during March Madness is mostly a bunch of children playing high stakes basketball for the first time in their life. A lot of guys. I've always blown away.

And the one off of it. Like you screwed this moment up. There is no tomorrow. You don't get game two or four to redeem yourself.

Carlos Boozer's son, Caden Boozer, the one who won't be like a top five pick in the draft, had a really bad turnover that led to that made three. And the guys on the show were talking about, oh, he's never seen a full court press before. I said, no, he's just never done it in front of 20,000 people going crazy knowing that this is for a trip to the final four. Sorry, Columbus high school probably didn't provide that kind of pressure safe environment for him.

And so this is all kind of melting into all that. By the way, Christian Laettner and Duke and them boys back in 92. Guess what? Those guys were all upperclassmen playing against who?

Michigan, Fab Five. Wow. The Indiana Hoosiers got all time job in that game. And I'm not on my father, son.

And I don't know why, but the Hoosiers all filed out of that game. Never filed out all season long. But Calvert Chaney and Greg Graham and all those guys filed out against Duke. That sucked.

Laettner makes a shot. That is, I think, in the top three. Greatest postseason game enders that I've ever seen. I want to make that list real quick with you now.

And by the way, Jordan against Georgetown doesn't count because there's 15 seconds left. And Dwight Clark against the Cowboys making the catch doesn't count because there were 58 seconds left in that game. And the lateral play Cal over Stanford doesn't count because that was a regular season game. So go from there.

Okay, so we've got just in no particular order. Michael Jordan, the shot over Elo. You've got Michael Jordan, the shot over Brian Russell in game six in 98. You've got Frank Wycheck, Music City Miracle.

Oh, yeah. You've got the kid whose name escapes me from Villanova to win the national title against North Carolina. Against UNC. Yep.

Yeah. I can't think of the kid's name either. No, it's an embarrassment for me. It was Jenkins.

I'm on it. I want to say it's Chris Jenkins, but that might have been another player from another sport. So I don't know. Basketball, because of its nature, has more of these.

Well, hockey should have more. I'll give you one that I was in the attendance for this one. Game one of the World Series. Freddie Freeman bases loaded.

Oh, I was there. I was just head to toe in my Yankee gear. And I actually have the video where I start recording. Here we go.

One more out because the base is loaded. Two outs. It's like one more out and we just stole game one in LA. And I heard the crack of the bat.

And I swear to God, I can show you the video. I didn't even follow the ball. My phone just goes down because I knew from the sound of the crack of the bat, that shit is out of here. It's up to 101.

It's going up to Studio City somewhere. Chris Jenkins. I think Chris Jenkins. Chris with a K.

Ah, there we go. I knew that part. I did know that part. Yeah, I mean, among postseason home runs, that's probably top five.

Luis Gonzalez beating the Yanks in the one. Significant and weird looking play. Almost like a Godfather assassination. There's always something oddball about somebody getting killed in the Godfather.

There's some weird element to every death. The Luis Gonzalez hit. The infield's drawn in and it was just like a knuckleball out to shortstop. And the context, it's Mariano Rivera, the greatest closer of all time.

And he gets a hit off of. But I kind of feel like in baseball, if it's a base hit, it doesn't have the same juice. No, no, it's not Joe Carter. Joe Carter, 1993 for the Blue Jays.

I remember that as a kid. Bill Mazeroski won the series. He beat the Yankees. He beat extras.

I mean, he beat them in extras. That's the greatest home run in postseason history. Lowe Charles of SC State knocking off mighty five slamma jamma at the buzzer. Derek Winberg, a sharpshooter when there was no three-pointers.

It was crazy that he was taking 22-footers and they only counted the same as whatever you scored from right underneath the basket. But he was a sharpshooter. But he came out and threw an airball. And Lowe Charles picked it up, caught it, put it into the rim without his feet touching the ground.

And that was a weird one, too, of Alvano running around the floor. I think that has to... Also, Jimmy Chitwood against South Bend. Absolutely not.

No Jimmy Chitwood. No fictional characters. Now I'm here like on A Dog with a Bone with this Villanova box score from that game. And the big Patrick Ewing one of my favorite players whatever, but I remember I remember how people hated on Patrick Ewing and then number three now.

I don't know if this the jersey design is as Secretes so much as what it represents a blue Giants number 56. That's that's a good like that one. You know what that means when you see it walk in down the middle, but that's a great choice. All right.

I respect all three of those. By the way, I'm speaking as someone who owns a Knicks Krzyzewicz jersey. So like I could have been like a real hipster with this, but no, I went with these are the ones where you're always going to be, you know, if the criteria is I never have to worry when I wear one of these, I think those are the ones that get it done. All right.

Let's do the bad ones now. OK, A-Rod Yankees jersey. I own that as well. As soon as as soon as the transaction was complete, I remember I went to MLB.com and I bought A-Rod number 13 because they said you can't wear three because they're not going to un-retire Babe Ruth.

So 13 for A-Rod. I was like, this is we're going to win like every World Series forever. I didn't know at the time. Number two, I think you give that one up.

Number two, also a jersey I own. And then you're going to really love this. It was an Antonio McDice Knicks jersey that I then had custom remade to be an Eddie Curry Knicks jersey. That's the winner.

The double whammy. You went Eddie Curry to save it. Eddie Curry because I was like, oh, McDice, he never played. Like, oh, well, this Eddie Curry guy, he'll be the savior.

Loan save. That didn't work out. Yeah. And then number three would have to be, uh, oh, Charles Smith Knicks jersey.

You are Charles Smith Knicks jersey. You are pariah instantly. Wait, why? Because he couldn't finish at the rim 17 times.

Just dunk it one time. Just dunk it once. Listen, that's where we connect. That's where our cars are parked in the same garage.

Charles Smith, before he was a Knickerbocker, was a Pitt Panther. Yes, he was. Probably still stands as the greatest Pitt Panther basketball player. Chevy Falcon, they would like a word.

Oh, come on with Chevy Troutman. Yes. I loved those Pitt teams with Mead Gore and Jerome Lane and Sean Miller. Oh my God, I loved those teams.

They got Barry Gohin. Talk about a buzzer beater that they got beat by Vandy in the 88 round of 32. They could have won the whole thing that year. All right, now I'm getting upset.

I don't want to do that. All right. Mike Fuentes, since you've seen Scoochie, what do you want to do next year? Do you want to do, you want to do, I mean, Phoenix based jerseys or do you want to do some movie talk here?

Do you want to hear his thoughts on Gino Auriemma? But I really want to have the Phoenix based, the Phoenix based jerseys are just the sub. No, that's not true. What's in there?

No, that's not true. Arizona coyotes, man. You never told me. Shane Doan, but he wasn't on my list.

Yeah. Okay, give us those real quick. Yeah. Okay.

All right. So number one, the all, the white home version of the Charles Barkley Phoenix Suns sunburst jersey. Dare I say the most beautiful jersey in the history of NBA basketball. Like it is perfect.

Way too much. Way too much. Number two, the alternate orange PHX Steve Nash jersey. This is the year after he won MVP.

And that one was not a fan, not a fan aesthetically of that look and not sure that Steve Nash deserved those MVPs. Well, don't you? I'm not doing it. Don't you?

I'm not going to do it. Number three, Cardinals red Larry Fitzgerald. That's classic. Another pick guy, right?

Do you forget about the Cardinals? He's a pick guy. Yeah, no, of course he was a pick guy. Yeah, that didn't really answer into my, into my thing when it comes to me, because he's such a big basketball guy.

I didn't really think about the Cardinals. You guys want to hear the worst? Definitely want to hear this. All right.

Number one, saw this in life in real person. A Cardinals Neil Rackers jersey. You guys remember Neil Rackers? If you guys don't remember, I want you to guess.

I remember Neil Rackers. That was like, don't, don't, don't. I'm not going to do it. Number three, Cardinals red Larry Fitzgerald.

That's classic. Another pick guy, right? Do you forget about the Cardinals? He's a pick guy.

Yeah, no, of course he was a pick guy. Yeah, that didn't really answer into my, into my thing when it comes to me, because he's such a big basketball guy. I didn't really think about the Cardinals. You guys want to hear the worst?

Definitely want to hear this. All right. Number one, saw this in life in real person. A Cardinals Neil Rackers jersey.

You guys remember Neil Rackers? If you guys don't remember, I want you to guess. I remember Neil Rackers. That was like, don't, don't, don't.

I'm not going to do it. Number three, Cardinals red Larry Fitzgerald. That's classic. Another pick guy, right?

Do you forget about the Cardinals? He's a pick guy. Yeah, no, of course he was a pick guy. Yeah, that didn't really answer into my, into my thing when it comes to me, because he's such a big basketball guy.

I didn't really think about the Cardinals. You guys want to hear the worst? Definitely want to hear this. All right.

Number one, saw this in life in real person. A Cardinals Neil Rackers jersey. You guys remember Neil Rackers? If you guys don't remember, I want you to guess.

I remember Neil Rackers. That was like, don't, don't, don't. I'm not going to do it. Number three, Cardinals red Larry Fitzgerald.

That's classic. Another pick guy, right? Do you forget about the Cardinals? He's a pick guy.

Yeah, no, of course he was a pick guy. Yeah, that didn't really answer into my, into my thing when it comes to me, because he's such a big basketball guy. I didn't really think about the Cardinals. You guys want to hear the worst?

Definitely want to hear this. All right. Number one, saw this in life in real person. A Cardinals Neil Rackers jersey.

You guys remember Neil Rackers? If you guys don't remember, I want you to guess. I remember Neil Rackers. That was like, don't, don't, don't.

I'm not going to do it. Number three, Cardinals red Larry Fitzgerald. That's classic. Another pick guy, right?

Do you forget about the Cardinals? He's a pick guy. Yeah, no, of course he was a pick guy. Yeah, that didn't really answer into my, into my thing when it comes to me, because he's such a big basketball guy.

I didn't really think about the Cardinals. You guys want to hear the worst? Definitely want to hear this. All right.

Number one, saw this in life in real person. A Cardinals Neil Rackers jersey. You guys remember Neil Rackers? If you guys don't remember, I want you to guess.

I remember Neil Rackers. That was like, don't, don't, don't. I'm not going to do it. Number three, Cardinals red Larry Fitzgerald.

That's classic. Another pick guy, right? Do you forget about the Cardinals? He's a pick guy.

Yeah, no, of course he was a pick guy. Yeah, that didn't really answer into my, into my thing when it comes to me, because he's such a big basketball guy. I didn't really think about the Cardinals. You guys want to hear the worst?

Definitely want to hear this. All right. Number one, saw this in life in real person. A Cardinals Neil Rackers jersey.

You guys remember Neil Rackers? If you guys don't remember, I want you to guess. I remember Neil Rackers. That was like, don't, don't, don't.

I'm not going to do it. Number three, Cardinals red Larry Fitzgerald. That's classic. Another pick guy, right?

Do you forget about the Cardinals? He's a pick guy. Yeah, no, of course he was a pick guy. Yeah, that didn't really answer into my, into my thing when it comes to me, because he's such a big basketball guy.

I didn't really think about the Cardinals. You guys want to hear the worst? Definitely want to hear this. All right.

Number one, saw this in life in real person. A Cardinals Neil Rackers jersey. You guys remember Neil Rackers? If you guys don't remember, I want you to guess.

I remember Neil Rackers. That was like, don't, don't, don't. I'm not going to do it. Number three, Cardinals red Larry Fitzgerald.

That's classic. Another pick guy, right? Do you forget about the Cardinals? He's a pick guy.

Yeah, no, of course he was a pick guy. Yeah, that didn't really answer into my, into my thing when it comes to me, because he's such a big basketball guy. I didn't really think about the Cardinals. You guys want to hear the worst?

Definitely want to hear this. All right. Number one, saw this in life in real person. A Cardinals Neil Rackers jersey.

You guys remember Neil Rackers? If you guys don't remember, I want you to guess. I remember Neil Rackers. That

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