EPISODE · May 21, 2026 · 54 MIN
Amy Elizabeth Fox: Bringing Love Into the Rooms Where Business Gets Done
from The Sincerely Show · host Katherine Dudtschak
Connect with Katherine Dudtschak Website: Sincerely Inc. LinkedIn: Katherine Dudtschak Instagram: Katherine Dudtschak Book: Sincerely, KatherineConnect with Amy Elizabeth Fox Website: Amy Elizabeth Fox LinkedIn: Amy Elizabeth Fox Organisation: Mobius Executive Leadership Book: Leading in ChaosAmy Elizabeth Fox: Bringing Love Into the Rooms Where Business Gets DoneKatherine Dudtschak sits down with Amy Elizabeth Fox, co-founder and CEO of Mobius Executive Leadership, a global transformational leadership firm she has led for 20 years. Amy has spent her career at the precise intersection of corporate rigour and deep human healing: working with Fortune 500 companies while drawing on psychology, somatics, trauma-informed practice, and spiritual wisdom to help senior leaders become more whole. She is also the co-author of the 2026 book Leading in Chaos, written with Nicholas Janni.Before any of that, Amy survived non-Hodgkin's lymphoma in her twenties, spent two years in silence near a lake after leaving the Cathedral Church of St. John the Divine, and had her heart cracked open by a kirtan circle she almost walked out of. This conversation moves through all of it: the formation, the collapse, the rebuilding, and 20 years of bringing love into organisations that weren't sure they wanted it.Amy also shares what she has observed across thousands of senior executive screenings: collective trauma is not the exception in leadership. It is almost universal. And the most important work any organisation can do begins not with strategy, but with the people carrying the weight of the past into every room they lead.Key MomentsAmy's non-Hodgkin's lymphoma diagnosis at 22: the illness she calls the greatest gift of her lifeThe kirtan circle where something cracked open in her that she has been following ever sinceHer decade at the Cathedral working alongside Ram Dass, Carl Sagan, and Vice President GoreTwo years near a lake, carrying her own water, before she knew what she was called to buildHer finding across thousands of executive screenings: trauma in leadership is nearly universalAmy stepping down from Mobius to follow the restorative renaissance: local, intimate, person-by-person workQuotes to Remember"Some part of my heart just broke open. It was the quality of devotion and the quality of unconditional love. And that frequency, I've been following ever since.""I have hardly ever met anyone from anywhere in the world where there isn't some kind of trauma. This is a universal pandemic."Reflection for ListenersWhat stayed with me is Amy's certainty that the unhealed past does not stay in the past: it walks into every boardroom, every difficult conversation, every culture we build. Her invitation is not to fix this before we lead. It is to acknowledge it, bring curiosity to it, and let that honesty become the beginning of something real.About the HostKatherine Dudtschak is the founder of Sincerely and author of Sincerely, Katherine. A former award-winning CEO with 30+ years in corporate leadership, Katherine witnesses transformation stories and teaches the models of integrated, essence-level leadership.DisclaimerThis conversation is for reflection and perspective only and should not be relied on as therapy or professional advice. Please seek qualified support where needed. This content is subject to our full Terms and Conditions, available on our website.
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Connect with Katherine Dudtschak Website: Sincerely Inc. LinkedIn: Katherine Dudtschak Instagram: Katherine Dudtschak Book: Sincerely, KatherineConnect with Amy Elizabeth Fox Website: Amy Elizabeth Fox LinkedIn: Amy Elizabeth Fox Organisation: Mobius Executive Leadership Book: Leading in ChaosAmy Elizabeth Fox: Bringing Love Into the Rooms Where Business Gets DoneKatherine Dudtschak sits down with Amy Elizabeth Fox, co-founder and CEO of Mobius Executive Leadership, a global transformational leadership firm she has led for 20 years. Amy has spent her career at the precise intersection of corporate rigour and deep human healing: working with Fortune 500 companies while drawing on psychology, somatics, trauma-informed practice, and spiritual wisdom to help senior leaders become more whole. She is also the co-author of the 2026 book Leading in Chaos, written with Nicholas Janni.Before any of that, Amy survived non-Hodgkin's lymphoma in her twenties, spent two years in silence near a lake after leaving the Cathedral Church of St. John the Divine, and had her heart cracked open by a kirtan circle she almost walked out of. This conversation moves through all of it: the formation, the collapse, the rebuilding, and 20 years of bringing love into organisations that weren't sure they wanted it.Amy also shares what she has observed across thousands of senior executive screenings: collective trauma is not the exception in leadership. It is almost universal. And the most important work any organisation can do begins not with strategy, but with the people carrying the weight of the past into every room they lead.Key MomentsAmy's non-Hodgkin's lymphoma diagnosis at 22: the illness she calls the greatest gift of her lifeThe kirtan circle where something cracked open in her that she has been following ever sinceHer decade at the Cathedral working alongside Ram Dass, Carl Sagan, and Vice President GoreTwo years near a lake, carrying her own water, before she knew what she was called to buildHer finding across thousands of executive screenings: trauma in leadership is nearly universalAmy stepping down from Mobius to follow the restorative renaissance: local, intimate, person-by-person workQuotes to Remember"Some part of my heart just broke open. It was the quality of devotion and the quality of unconditional love. And that frequency, I've been following ever since.""I have hardly ever met anyone from anywhere in the world where there isn't some kind of trauma. This is a universal pandemic."Reflection for ListenersWhat stayed with me is Amy's certainty that the unhealed past does not stay in the past: it walks into every boardroom, every difficult conversation, every culture we build. Her invitation is not to fix this before we lead. It is to acknowledge it, bring curiosity to it, and let that honesty become the beginning of something real.About the HostKatherine Dudtschak is the founder of Sincerely and author of Sincerely, Katherine. A former award-winning CEO with 30+ years in corporate leadership, Katherine witnesses transformation stories and teaches the models of integrated, essence-level leadership.DisclaimerThis conversation is for reflection and perspective only and should not be relied on as therapy or professional advice. Please seek qualified support where needed. This content is subject to our full Terms and Conditions, available on our website.
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