EPISODE · May 27, 2026 · 1H 4M
An Honest Conversation About Grief | Ep. 142 with Elaine Jenkins
from No Grey Areas · host Joseph Gagliano
Welcome back to the No Grey Areas Podcast! Our host, Pat McCalla, sits down with his lifelong friend, Elaine Jenkins (also known as “Lady Wisdom”), for one of the most raw conversations about a topic we all have faced or will face throughout life: grief. Reading from her personal journal and sharing the multiple shocking tragedies she’s experienced throughout her life, Elaine opens up about what grief really looks like behind closed doors and how it affects every person differently.Elaine opens up about what she has walked through, a list of what NOT to say to someone walking through loss, and why “silence is holy.” We also talk about the pressure society places on people to “move on,” the urge to want to run away, and how faith, scripture, and God’s presence carried Elaine through her darkest moments. At the end of the day, this episode is a reminder that while grief may change you forever, there can still be peace, purpose, and hope found in the middle of it.CHAPTERS:00:00:00 Intro00:01:49 The most traumatic accident of my life00:04:29 How grief changes you as a person00:08:22 Healing from Grief vs Guilt00:14:10 A sudden turn of events00:22:24 You'll never be the same after grief00:26:21 How grief changes you in a positive way00:29:04 Grief is exhausting00:30:37 What NOT to say to someone who is grieving00:31:56 Your presence is enough00:38:05 What you should say to someone who is grieving00:39:27 Where are you, God?00:45:52 I believe, but help my unbelief00:47:30 I'll feel alone forever...00:49:44 How to help someone going through grief00:52:13 Always remember them00:55:57 What happens next after losing a loved one?00:58:20 Lady Wisdom's Greatest Advice01:01:24 Two Truths and a Lie01:02:56 OutroWEBSITE: https://www.nogreyareaspodcast.com/INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/nogreyareas_gagliano/FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/NoGreyAreasTIK TOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@nogreyareasgaglianoEMAIL: [email protected] Grey Areas is a motivational podcast with captivating guests centered around how our choices humanize, empower, and define who we become. This podcast is inspired by the cautionary tale, No Grey Areas, written by Joseph Gagliano. Learn more about the truth behind his story involved with sports' biggest scandal at https://www.nogreyareas.com/
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