EPISODE · Feb 26, 2026 · 36 MIN
An Interview with Danyal Akarca, Co-founder at Callosum & Suraj Bramhavar, Programme Director at Aria
from Scaling Europe · host Sebastian Johnson
AI hardware is entering a new phase as billions flow into chips and frontier labs across Europe.Danyal Akarca, Co-founder at Callosum, and Suraj Bramhavar, Programme Director at ARIA, are working on what comes next: a £50m Scaling Inference Lab and a system layer designed to connect different models to different chips, pushing AI beyond homogenous scale and towards a more heterogeneous future.The Scaling Europe show is presented by Deel - check them out here:https://get.deel.com/ruynb7o4lfjkSponsors:SurrealDB: The multi-model database for AI agents. Check them out here: https://surrealdb.com/Omni: The AI analytics platform trusted by fast-growing companies like Perplexity, Synthesia, and dbt Labs. Check them out here: https://omni.co/Venture Comet: The platform that gives startups and scale-ups real-time equity tracking, daily business insights and automated management information. Check them out here: https://venturecomet.com/Timestamps:0:11 - Background on Arya and scaling compute program2:10 - Rise of private capital in AI hardware5:10 - Testing new hardware and software combinations7:13 - Transitioning to heterogeneous computing systems9:44 - Importance of multi-agent intelligence paradigm11:39 - Achieving performance gains with diverse hardware14:01 - Economic viability of specialized models17:30 - Excitement about upcoming releases20:26 - Building AI systems every six months22:00 - Evaluating cost reduction in AI systems24:19 - Nvidia's future in AI hardware27:03 - Market diversification in chip industry29:11 - Importance of connective tissue in AI31:01 - Breaking the hardware lottery concept32:54 - Exciting developments in photonic networking
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AI hardware is entering a new phase as billions flow into chips and frontier labs across Europe.Danyal Akarca, Co-founder at Callosum, and Suraj Bramhavar, Programme Director at ARIA, are working on what comes next: a £50m Scaling Inference Lab and a system layer designed to connect different models to different chips, pushing AI beyond homogenous scale and towards a more heterogeneous future.The Scaling Europe show is presented by Deel - check them out here:https://get.deel.com/ruynb7o4lfjkSponsors:SurrealDB: The multi-model database for AI agents. Check them out here: https://surrealdb.com/Omni: The AI analytics platform trusted by fast-growing companies like Perplexity, Synthesia, and dbt Labs. Check them out here: https://omni.co/Venture Comet: The platform that gives startups and scale-ups real-time equity tracking, daily business insights and automated management information. Check them out here: https://venturecomet.com/Timestamps:0:11 - Background on Arya and scaling compute program2:10 - Rise of private capital in AI hardware5:10 - Testing new hardware and software combinations7:13 - Transitioning to heterogeneous computing systems9:44 - Importance of multi-agent intelligence paradigm11:39 - Achieving performance gains with diverse hardware14:01 - Economic viability of specialized models17:30 - Excitement about upcoming releases20:26 - Building AI systems every six months22:00 - Evaluating cost reduction in AI systems24:19 - Nvidia's future in AI hardware27:03 - Market diversification in chip industry29:11 - Importance of connective tissue in AI31:01 - Breaking the hardware lottery concept32:54 - Exciting developments in photonic networking
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