An Interview with Social Media Influencer Kellie Snider: Waking Up White People from The Spell of Racism (S6 E11) episode artwork

EPISODE · Jan 19, 2026 · 52 MIN

An Interview with Social Media Influencer Kellie Snider: Waking Up White People from The Spell of Racism (S6 E11)

from Not As Crazy As You Think Podcast · host Jen Gaita Siciliano

In the episode, “An Interview with Social Media Influencer Kellie Snider: Waking Up White People from The Spell of Racism (S6 E11),” TikTok and Instagram sensation, Kellie Snider joins the show and shares how white supremacy became so woven throughout American culture. She starts with sharing her personal turning point when she realized she needed to do the work of helping people, especially white people, understand what systemic racism actually is.She explains how although Jim Crow laws ended on paper in the 1960s, its impact never did. Laws that were implemented to “keep black people down” are a real thing and influenced racial outcomes today. She mentions how Christianity in the south was used to justify who got enslaved, and then later used to keep black people in a racial hierarchy. White churches did not just go along with white supremacy, but helped promote it. We discuss how White Christian Nationalism is on the road to replace Democracy, and now with Trump saying the quiet part out loud, what the consequences are regarding our Civil Rights. Kellie describes the “psychological wage of whiteness” and how we are on the path of continuing to engineer systems that will help racism thrive in our country for generations to come.In the end, Kellie’s social media message offers hope to our country as she courageously calls for white people to “do better.” She reminds us that compassionate whites can use their privilege to make a difference right now in the fight for American civil and human rights at this very unique time in our American history.Bio:Kellie Snider is an artist, author, behavior analyst, and accidental influencer known for her social media series Learning While White. She believes White people have been cheated out of our own history by a racist system that protects White Denial rather than fostering compassionate empowerment. Drawing from her background in behavior analysis, she helps audiences understand how social conditioning shapes defensiveness, how history informs privilege, and how facing the truth can lead to collective healing.To follow Kellie: https://Instagram.com/KellieSnider.arthttps://tiktok.com/KellieSnider.arthttps://Facebook.com/Kelliesniderhttps://ko-fi.com/KellieSniderKellie Snider Anti-Racism Sources:Cold War Civil Rights – Mary DudziakAmerica Divided – Isserman & KazinStorming Caesars Palace – Annelise OrleckBefore the Storm – Rick PerlsteinDivided by Faith: Evangelical Religion and the Problem of Race in America - Emerson & Smith White Evangelical Racism - Anthea Butler Bad Faith: Race and the Rise of the Religious Right - Randall Balmer White Too Long - Robert P. JonesThe Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America -RothsteinSlavery by Another Name -  Blackmon Mothers of Massive Resistance: White Women and the Politics of White Supremacy -Elizabeth Gillespie McRaeMy Life After Hate - Arno MichaelisBreaking Hate - Christian PiccioliniWhite Like Me - Tim WiseWhite Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism - Robin DiAngeloHow to Be an Antiracist - Ibram X. Kendi How Fascism Works — Jason StanleyWhite Rage — Carol AndersonThe Sum of Us — Heather McGheeSelma 1965: Marching for the Right to Vote - Jeff ParkerWhite Allies in the Struggle for Racial Justice - Catherine FoslSlavery by Another Name — Douglas A. BlackmonThe Half Has Never Been Told — Edward E. BaptistPost Traumatic Slave Syndrome – DeGruy    Send us Fan MailSupport the show

In the episode, “An Interview with Social Media Influencer Kellie Snider: Waking Up White People from The Spell of Racism (S6 E11),” TikTok and Instagram sensation, Kellie Snider joins the show and shares how white supremacy became so woven throughout American culture. She starts with sharing her personal turning point when she realized she needed to do the work of helping people, especially white people, understand what systemic racism actually is. She explains how although Jim Crow laws end...

NOW PLAYING

An Interview with Social Media Influencer Kellie Snider: Waking Up White People from The Spell of Racism (S6 E11)

0:00 52:56

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

Eat to Live Jenna Fuhrman, Dr. Fuhrman Our health is our most precious gift and smart nutrition can change your life. Each month, join Dr. Fuhrman and his daughter, Jenna Fuhrman as they discuss important topics in the world of nutrition. Eat to Live will change the way you eat and think about food. French Your Way Jessica: Native French teacher founder of French Your Way Boost your French listening skills and test your comprehension with this one of a kind series of podcasts. Get the chance to listen to a real conversation between native speakers talking at normal speed AND customise your learning experience through carefully designed sets of questions (2 levels of difficulty) available for download at www.frenchvoicespodcast.com. All interviews also come with the transcript. French teacher Jessica interviews native speakers of French from around the world who share a bit of their life and passion. Where else would you meet in one same place a French yoga teacher based in Melbourne, a soap manufacturer from Provence, or a couple cycling around the world? That Hoarder: Overcome Compulsive Hoarding That Hoarder Hoarding disorder is stigmatised and people who hoard feel vast amounts of shame. This podcast began life as an audio diary, an anonymous outlet for somebody with this weird condition. That Hoarder speaks about her experiences living with compulsive hoarding, she interviews therapists, academics, researchers, children of hoarders, professional organisers and influencers, and she shares insight and tips for others with the problem. Listened to by people who hoard as well as those who love them and those who work with them, Overcome Compulsive Hoarding with That Hoarder aims to shatter the stigma, share the truth and speak openly and honestly to improve lives. The Small Business Startup School – Business Notes | Financial Literacy | Retail Psychology – For Professionals & Entrepreneurs The Small Business Startup School Inc. Starting or buying a small business? While personal circumstances may vary, business patterns remain timeless. On The Small Business Startup School, we explore strategies, insights, and practical solutions to help entrepreneurs confidently navigate their journey.Hosted by Ola Williams—a retail entrepreneur, fintech founder, and financial coach with over two decades of experience—this podcast marries financial awareness and retail psychology with optimism to deliver actionable takeaways.Join us to learn, grow, and connect as we uncover the keys to business success.Let’s continue to learn together and be encouraged to keep on connecting!

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Not As Crazy As You Think Podcast?

This episode is 52 minutes long.

When was this Not As Crazy As You Think Podcast episode published?

This episode was published on January 19, 2026.

What is this episode about?

In the episode, “An Interview with Social Media Influencer Kellie Snider: Waking Up White People from The Spell of Racism (S6 E11),” TikTok and Instagram sensation, Kellie Snider joins the show and shares how white supremacy became so woven...

Can I download this Not As Crazy As You Think Podcast episode?

Yes, you can download this episode by clicking the download button on the episode player, or subscribe to the podcast in your preferred podcast app for automatic downloads.
URL copied to clipboard!