EPISODE · Aug 11, 2026 · 42 MIN
"An unprecedented combination of callousness, incompetence and surrealness"
from Deadline: White House · host Maggie Haberman, Ned Price, Michael Feinberg, Liz Oyer
August 11, 2026, 4pm; Alarming new reporting finds that Donald Trump used his staff and White House journalists as decoys amid security threats from Iran, having them fly out of Turkey on the old Air Force One while Trump flew out on a separate unmarked aircraft. For more from Nicolle, follow and download her podcast, “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace,” wherever you get your podcasts.To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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In a presidency that is every day summed up by its historically unprecedented combination of callousness, incompetence and surrealness, Donald Trump and his administration have managed to outdo themselves, likely endangering national security, his own staff and the journalists whose job it is to cover them in the process.
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