EPISODE · Apr 23, 2026 · 23 MIN
And So It Flows: How AI and Gen Z Are Transforming the Trades
from The Plumbing and Mechanical Podcasts
In this episode of And So It Flows, Kristen sits down with Roland Ligtenberg, co-founder of Housecall Pro, to explore how technology, AI and shifting workforce dynamics are reshaping the skilled trades. Roland shares insights on the growing appeal of trade careers —especially among Gen Z! — as economic uncertainty and automation reshape traditional white-collar paths.
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