…and then what? Dissolving the illusion of what’s next

We spend much of our lives moving toward the next thing: The next home. The next version of ourselves. The moment when everything will finally feel settled. But what happens when we pause… and ask: …and then what? I n this episode, Erin reflects on a simple yet profound question — one that cuts through even the most subtle forms of striving. From moving house and chasing the “perfect setup,” to the quiet effort within meditation, to navigating grief and the uncertainty of life, this conversation explores how deeply the habit of “what’s next” runs. This episode gently points us back to what remains when the chasing softens.