EPISODE · Dec 17, 2025 · 1H 5M
Andrea Božić, Julia Willms and Victoria Pérez Royo
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This episode is a conversation between performing arts researcher, Victoria Pérez Royo, choreographer and artist Andrea Božić, and visual artist Julia Willms. Andrea and Julia have collaborated since 2003 making in-disciplinary works that re-organise space, attention and perception; exploring how spectatorship, imagination and spectacle are intertwined and embodied.The conversation was recorded in a studio in Amsterdam and together, they explore the nature and practice of capturing and interpreting dreams, they discuss research on dreams, dream logic, and the immersive virtual environments that dreams create.To find a full transcript of this episode, and resources mentioned, visit our website.This episode is part of a mini-series, Dreaming Communities, curated by performing arts researcher, Victoria Pérez Royo. She defines the series as "a group of people having conversations around what we call the dreaming substance, meaning all the work developed around images that do not appear on a material surface outside of the body." You can read more about Victoria's curation on our website. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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This episode is a conversation between performing arts researcher, Victoria Pérez Royo, choreographer and artist Andrea Božić, and visual artist Julia Willms. Andrea and Julia have collaborated since 2003 making in-disciplinary works that re-organise space, attention and perception; exploring how spectatorship, imagination and spectacle are intertwined and embodied.The conversation was recorded in a studio in Amsterdam and together, they explore the nature and practice of capturing and interpreting dreams, they discuss research on dreams, dream logic, and the immersive virtual environments that dreams create.To find a full transcript of this episode, and resources mentioned, visit our website.This episode is part of a mini-series, Dreaming Communities, curated by performing arts researcher, Victoria Pérez Royo. She defines the series as "a group of people having conversations around what we call the dreaming substance, meaning all the work developed around images that do not appear on a material surface outside of the body." You can read more about Victoria's curation on our website. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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