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Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Good Hang. We have Andrew Garfield on today. Andrew is just the best, a real tenderoni and hilarious and talented and star of film and Broadway. And we are going to get into so many things today. We're going to talk about how Munich has the best felt.
We're going to talk about having that competitive spirit, especially when it comes to board games. We're going to talk about being method, but not being a jerk. And we're going to talk about his new movie, The Uprising, which is out now and looks incredible, like all the stuff that Andrew does. So we're very, very excited to get started, but we always start our episodes by speaking to somebody who knows our guest, who has worked with our guest, has good things to say about our guests behind their back. And we're going to talk to a legend, Lin Manuel Miranda.
You know him from, oh, I don't know, Hamilton and Milana and the upcoming Warriors musical and five other million things that he's one 10 e-gots for. Lin, hi. This episode is brought to you by Uber. You know those little choices you make that give you more comfort throughout the day, like planning your outfit the night before, sharing your location with a friend when heading home late, taking the actual lunch break away from your desk. Uber has one too.
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You did? I had a nightmare that like you invited me on, but I could tell you didn't really want me to be on, like someone had you and you're like, come in, I guess. Oh, that's making me nauseous. Unenthusi, ask him about it. Sit down, I guess.
And it wasn't your usual set. It was just like some apartment where I was like, I was like a pity guest. Oh, that's giving everybody the chills in here. So that is a proper stress dream. More cupping a sweat.
I can handle a lot of things I cannot handle, not being a good hang with you. Oh my God, I'm so sorry that I was that way in your dream, in real life, and we are awake, and I can't wait to get you in here. I'm such a fan of your work. Love would love to talk to you, and would be so happy to be talking to you. Oh my goodness gracious.
Yes, yes, yes. And so happy to be talking to you today. It looks like you're in some kind of studio. There's a piano behind you. Yes, we are in day two of our workshop for our next musical.
Warriors. Come out and play. That's the one. So, Lisa Davis and I are here in the room. There are actors learning songs in the next room.
There must be no better feeling than like working with the piano and like hearing people sing in the other room and just the work shopping of it all. Yeah, well, it's the thing of like other people, you get the solitude of writing, and then you also get to like bring in a song, and then people who sing much better than you sound beautiful on it. And it's, you know, I had so much fun with your episode with Graf, who is also like one of my closest friends, because just the joy off him is like, we're in the play. We get to be in the school play, and we're all still chasing that eye. Yes.
Well, I feel that way, you know, about you, Lynn, like I feel like I know that everybody that works with you feels that way, like you're such a collaborator, you love the process, you love making things better, you know, letting the best idea win, like you can feel that, and also you're a fan. Like you've never stopped being a fan of the thing that you're doing. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, no, it's, I mean, it's why I had so much fun when I was on SNL. It was, it's the school play on steroids.
It's like a supercharged version of the thing that got me hooked on this art form. I'm like, we get to make it like, and we get to make something bigger than any of us can make alone, I think is the big thing. Yes, so well said, so well said. And you got to work with Sweet Andrew Garfield. Sweet, Sweet Andrew Garfield.
First of all, congratulations on Tic Tic somebody's real life into their hands. But can you just tell me how did you guys come together to make that? How did that happen? Sure, I, you know, most of my familiarity with Andrew's work was actually theater.
Like I was lucky enough to see him in Deaf of the Salesman with Philip Seymour Hoffman, and he was unreal in that. And then I saw him in Angels in America, both parts, which is like, it's a day, it's your day. Go to the night, it's your part one, dinner, you see part two, they're both three hours long. And I didn't know whether he had a musical bone in his body, but it's such an endurance test that playing. And he was so magnificent in it that I was just like, this guy can do anything.
I just thought, I don't know if he can sing, but I think he can do anything. Yeah. Andrew and I like exchanged an email or two in our lives, he was a fan of Hamilton. And so I said, can we go out to like dinner before your performance? He was doing Angels in Broadway at the time.
And I took him out to sushi, and I told him about the movie we were working on, and I said, can you sing? And he said, what are you making this? And I go, not for a year. And he goes, then I can sing. Amazing.
I was like, oh my god. Well, that's kind of like the theme of what I want to talk about today is that he works very hard. He's a really hard worker. I take a lot of pride in that. Yeah, absolutely.
He wants the work. He wants the discipline. And you have to be a monk to do eight shows a week. Like you actually have to know when you're eating, know exactly what you're putting your body so that you are at your peak at 7 p.m. APM that night.
He has played a monk. And like he lives it, like he truly lives it. And you know how I feel about Broadway? Absolutely too many shows. I've said this.
Well, to quote you in Let Hot American Summer at Theater is now. And it's you. That is true. Which I watched maybe once a month. I watched that speech to myself.
Yeah, it was very obtuse. Yeah, it makes perfect sense. It's now and it's you. I mean, you basically played me in that me at 14 in that movie. Like, guys, this is serious.
And then you learn, well, you learn, oh, no one wants to work with that person. Like your job is to make the most fun room possible. So that people choose doing the play over basketball over debate. Like, no, no, actually this is the most fun place to be. Not guys.
We're going to work steps. Story of my life, story of my life, which is just like, just chill out, chill out. Just pump the brakes on whatever you're saying. OK, so do you have a question you think I should ask Andrew today? Anything big small?
Well, my question comes with a story, which is that, you know, famously Andrew, like, learned to sing, like, took a year and then came out on the other end. It was just like an amazing singer for my movie. And there was a sequence we had to shoot that was a swimming pool scene. Jonathan Larson, like, would swim to get his ideas. And he wrote this great stream of consciousness song.
They get the idea while he's doing laps. And I had three days in the actual pool Larson, Swam in the village and had a stunt double for all of the, like, complicated underwater photography, had a special underwater photographer. And I found out Andrew is basically Michael Phelps. Like his dad is a swimming instructor. That's right.
And Andrew swam better than my stunt double. So my question is, like, one, what are the other superpowers you have that a director hasn't tapped yet? And one, like, what feels like even too much of a challenge? Like, he learned to sing for me. He, Martin Scorsese, he, like, threw him into the wild.
Like, he's really taken on some, I think he gets very excited by the challenges. Like, what's one where, what's something that really scares him that he would still probably do? That's a great question. And I think he's going to love it because I think he's very driven exactly by what you said by the challenge of what to do next. And yeah, and I never know what he's going to do next.
It's always funny. I mean, his new film that's out is about a peasant revolt. Yeah, and then he goes from that to Sam Altman. Like, it's crazy. Yeah, I know.
Crazy. Well, Lynn, I loved talking to you. I think we're going to have a very good time and not a scary dream time on the sea time. Thank you. I appreciate that.
And thanks for stepping away. Absolutely. Have fun with Andrew. He's a lovely, lovely, lovely love. Okay, take care.
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Can you smell things? Can I do? I feel like I'm a super smeller. Do not. I bet you, I bet you are sensitive to smells.
If I can't, if I can't do it, smell is my number one, my nine or one sense. I'm the best at it. What do you think is your best of the five senses? What is your best? What's my best sense?
What's my best accomplished sense? We've got smell. We've got hearing. We've got sight. We've got touch.
And what's the other one? Taste. I always forget taste. Are you okay? I'm not going to be humble about this.
Don't be. I don't mean to brag at the same time. I'm kind of trying to be neutral. I love a brag. I'd say touch.
Damn. We're the best date ever. But touch. So do you okay? Let me ask you a touch question.
Can I enjoy? I enjoy. I enjoy. I like how things feel like I like the texture. Yeah.
You're a tactile person as well. Yeah. You're shopping for clothes. Do you do what I do which is you just, you go like this. It's cool.
For real. If it's not soft, I'm not interested. I think I'm going to sniff it and then it does. Fabric. Yeah.
You know what I love? Yes. Yes. Can I tell you anyway? Yes.
Felt. I fucking love Felt. What do we go? Hold on. I know where the Felt is in this room.
I'm like a dividing rod for Felt. Hold on. Okay. We're recording in New York. I have more felt in LA.
This is a fake cheeseburger, open that up. Oh my God. That's a hard felt. It's a little hard. Yeah, it's a little hard.
This felt is not, it's not Munich felt. I was just in Munich. You know, I told you I felt. Same art. It's a Munich.
Munich is known for its felt making. Well, cool. And it has like specific, you can tell. Beautiful art. It's cool.
So I was shooting in Munich. This is a great podcast story. I was shooting in Munich. Yes. And I didn't have much time on my hands.
I was shooting like intensely. But the time I did have was spent in the felt store. Were you playing somebody who had to felt? No, I was playing a peasant. Right.
This is this new movie, The Uprising. Yes, cool, The Uprising. We want to talk about it. I want to talk about it. You are.
Look at you. You really do like touches and very important. I would never lie to you about something so likely. Sorry, but I just want to indulge your touch. But you're here, which is, look at this.
What do you got? Another. It felt too hard for me. Yeah, sorry. That wasn't good.
Ooh. That is sweet. That's lovely. That's really lovely. I'm really glad it doesn't squeak.
I'm glad it doesn't squeak because I'm an adult. You know what I mean? I don't need a dog toy. I don't need to get excited by sounds in the way that a dog might. No, there's actually no worse feeling than when you bring home a toy for a child or a dog and you realize that it's squeaks, you're like, oh fuck.
Why don't I check that? What's cool about this? Yeah. Yeah. What's cool about this?
Well, you talk about it. You never smelt it. It's not bad. Sometimes you smell like they come. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay. You all know. You all know. You all know. You guys know how you're fake cheeseburger.
Smell in your office. You know. You know. You know. We, Andrew Garfield is here.
That's all the time we have. You're talking about the uprising. I want to talk to you about this because I'm okay. I've been thinking about my theme for you. Theme.
Yeah. About what to talk to you about today because I feel like we could talk forever and I love talking to you. Me too. And same. I love this by the way.
What you're doing here is so beautiful. It's about time. There's another podcast. Yeah. I know there wasn't enough.
Weirdly. People like room for one more. Just one of the people. No, but like if anyone should in this world have a bad this room. Thank you for that.
It's really fun. And I've been paying attention to as I've been thinking about prepping for today about your work and your life and you. And I'm fascinated by your love of hard work. You just like to work hard. Yeah, I do.
You love it. You do too. Yes, but not as much as I do. I don't know. I'm not anymore.
I'm just sitting down with it. But your work ethic is really something. It's very honorable. I know you care like your love language feels like it's like acts of service. Like you do things for people, right?
I got you. Very funny. Yes, you're on your daily. You're passionate for stuff. You're love for people and how you show up in your work.
And you're always working so hard and in everything you're doing, you're training, you're starving. You're already got to sing this new movie. So it looks so hard. It looks so cold. I'm dirty and hard.
And that's all. I just want you to just take it. I want to talk to you too. Take it easy. You want me to take it easy.
Yeah. I'm really into your relationship to work because I think it's like it's very honorable and also I think it's very I think it's your way into stuff. Would you agree? Interesting. I think it's really important because one of my favorite episodes that you've done is with Cole, a scholar.
It's a heaven conversation. And just the running bit of, I just like playing. It's all played to me. It's all played. It's all played to me.
Like it plays the thing. And honestly, I'm just like, I can never go on Amy's podcast because I will be the guy actually saying that for real. I know what you mean. I know what you mean. I know what you mean.
You guys are made impossible to have a serious conversation about creativity. Okay. I think I can speak for myself and I'd like to speak for Cole. But I'm very interested in what motivates people. Yeah, sure.
Like how people move through the world. And that's the coolest thing about these condos. Are you always like a hard worker? What did work look like in your house, in your family? Yeah, no, it's, yeah.
Oh boy. No, I know. Do you want to hold something and touch them once we something? Is there any felt that softer? No, no, there's no Munich felt.
Munich felt. I know it's disgusting. Oh, weird. Jenna, get the Munich felt. Bring out the Munich power cheddar.
I so yes. I will. You are sure. Okay, fine. I'll just ask you.
No, no, no, no. I really love what your, I just ironically tucked my hair behind my ears. I'm on the way. Your hair isn't quite at all. We're in the same position right now.
Your hair is great. Propecia. Great. You know what people should know that? Everyone, everyone I know is on propetia.
And also. You just outed every single man in your life that you know, including your young nephews and sons. I don't know. Like every single male. Propecia is incredible.
And thank you for saying that. You have naturally very thick hair. You always have. You have congrats and I bet you grew it like that and you bet you don't even comb it in the morning and it looks incredible. I lied about propetia.
It's just small natural. I'm just trying to be relatable to other guys out there. But anyway, sorry, you talked to me. You talked about your. I was a little controversial.
Sometime. People are great. Do you know what I mean? Like sometimes people are really great. And I know that's a hot day.
It's controversial. Andrew, it's so you. I mean, there's a, there's a, like, there's a real humanity to the stuff you do. There's also, you're just a delightful person around your real tenderoni. I will co-sign that.
Real tenderoni, both. Yes. And people are great. Some people, some human beings can, can be really wonderful and add beautiful things to the earth and to the world. And I'm, I guess I'm curious as well about what is it that makes us feel compelled to do that.
My mother was one of those people in every single moment of her life. I have this image of her now that she's passed. And it came very, like, like a flash in a dream or like an awakening. I don't know what it was, but I had this image of her being reunited with her tribe after she passed. And it made sense to me why she was, she could be so hard on herself in Carnot when she was alive.
I was like, oh, you knew you were meant to be in a thousand different places at once giving goodness to people. And you knew in some unconscious way that you were being restricted by this vessel of a body, by the vessel of restriction of time and space. So when she passed, I could, I just felt, I don't know, like I don't know if you've had this experience with somebody's past. But it's like in the first month or two, I felt more connected to her than I ever felt connected to her when she was in, in Carnot when she was alive, alive. Let's put it in quotation marks.
I do believe that she's here right now and she's everywhere all at once. I do believe that. And I have a knowing of that. So there was something about seeing, maybe seeing my mother in, in a very specific kind of hard work that was so naturally occurring for her. And I was always someone in the same way that you just did with me.
I was always someone with her. I was like, just take a trip. Just relax. You're enough. You're the most beautiful angel on earth.
You can give yourself what you give to others and it doesn't make you selfish. It doesn't make you any which way. But after she passed, I had this real understanding of like, oh, no, that was just inherently who she was. I don't know whether it was an natural or an I have no idea, but it was just the activating, the animating spirit of her, of her essential nature, of her essential being. And I guess you could call that hard work or you could, or you could, I don't know.
There's something otherworldly about it. As I say, after she passed, I was like, oh, she's back. She's actually back. She's back where she's meant to be running around with her like good angel brigade, like giving people who need a miracle, a miracle, like times amelia. I could just feel it.
And I was just one of the people that she was hanging out with. Beautiful. I mean, the idea that her spirit and one spirit can be kind of like released once they leave their, their body. Just an idea that somebody is bigger than their body. And that's so interesting that you talk about your mom when I ask you that question because there is something in your work that feels really not only curious, but very unbridled.
Like you like to kind of go, go places as I'm trying to like psycho analyze. And again, I am no therapist, but I do feel like I am. And that's what this podcast is. She says again. And I will give you a prescription at the end of this.
No, but I think it's also very interesting that you talk, even though you're, you're British in many ways, you were born in the US and you talk, like I find you toggle back and forth between those things culturally very easy. And I had a question for you, which is what do you think is the most American thing about you? And I love hamburgers. But you have very useful energy as a person. You're a little brother.
You're a little brother. And you're a little brother. He's a doctor, a heart and lung doctor in London. Yeah. The good son.
He's the one that make it. He's the one that make it. Well did he always? Was he always? Yeah, he was head boy school was catching the swimming teams.
I can some fish. Yeah. Son of a bitch. How many years older than you? He is older.
He's older. I was fuck. I was from day one and he gave me meningitis. Day two of my life. He gives me.
He brings home meningitis. And then he became a doctor to heal you from it. household is definitely a part in like the nuts and bolts of like the therapy I would be like yeah we don't feel enough for the Garfield men there is a kind of Competition is sometimes gets about wrap. I love competition. I love games. I love fucking what kind of game player are you?
You know, I mean like I get to intense. Yeah, I think you have to ask my friends this but I would say I do I have up I can upset people yeah, I have a I work on it because obviously like everyone was a good time I know when people say things like who really cares I'm like what are we doing? What do you mean like we're playing a game like we have to try to win as best we can otherwise ruining the game? Yeah, anyone who like says you all play and it's like yeah, like it's so stupid It's like don't fucking play. Yeah, don't show up and also I'm treating you. I'm being rough on you because I believe in you
And I love you. Yeah, for sure. I mean I expect the best from you Yeah, and I want I want you to grow Yeah, I want you to grow at at celebrity or whatever we're playing Okay, do you like playing mafia? Yeah, well, I play with werewolves the first time I'm not I'm bad at being the werewolf Me too. I'm I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate the like lying. I hate the deception
I know I know and I love Yes, of course, you're doing proctoring and also defending oneself course being like how dare you Say Okay, so I do I do want to ask you a couple questions about your work, okay, I have to okay, um your first film you're with Meryl Streep Redford how old are you that 23 I want to say so you're coming on to that set Like you know, you have everyone has the jitters like any first day on any job. Yeah, like I'm just gonna be cool Just listen more than you talk and just they'll get to know you whatever you're saying yourself What you're driving to set or whatever? What are you saying yourself when you're approaching that set? That's a really intimidating set That's so intimidating. Oh my gosh. I don't know what I was telling myself. I I
So first of all Bob Redford God rest his beautiful soul of service that man We had a soul for service like what you did with Sundance and like and what that sprung from came out It came out of him. I think helping out his new neighbor in Utah who was about to be foreclosed I'll buy your farm so you can keep it. I'm gonna have to make some some money out of it I'm and we'll set up a like a lab for young filmmakers. So it came out of him helping out his neighbor It's just like he was he was a beautiful beautiful man and very late all the time to everything So I say it would love so I'm like I'm like yeah Terrified and nervous and pinching myself and then Bob is four hours late and it's just like at that time. I'm just pissed I'm just angry. Okay. Let's not know what's wrong. Yeah, right?
So you're right a lot of the nerves had kind of dissipated because he was so loose and casual He's so he was so cool Yeah, he's still dressed like he was in his 20s with a double denim and he wasn't aware that he was late He was just like on his own Redford time. Yeah, and he's he was famously I'm not like telling tales out of school sure He was like a famously late. Oh God is fair. I mean, you know like he's so handsome like there's gonna be something wrong with him What if he was like on time? You were feeling less nervous it helps and he was so relaxed and he would shoot in his own coverage first He would shoot himself and then he would look me after his first take you think See what's the right thing as well? So all my things are within and he was like what do you think?
I'm like, oh, that's a really interesting move right? It was heaven trying to just make me feel like it was my set and make me feel like I was an equal and like you know My first movie. Yeah, that's very nice. Oh, he was so nice He was so beautiful and we and it was like a theater that was a lot of dialogue and it was like a well You are a theater your theater boy. That is your first love. That is my first like love out
That was like that was like my first exit of the Truman show, you know I mean like opening that door in the sky and then it was like there's a whole world out there that I had no idea existed When you were working on that film were you still working on Starbucks? No, no, no It's always weird things sometimes when you're at a fully leg over it I wasn't like you know, I'm not gonna say that that's that year is over I had a little bit of a shock straight out of drama school Like I did two plays in a row and then I I was like I'm set yeah, I don't have to read those commercial in Spain Yes, I guess wrap it up fella. I'm like that's my like that's my kind of like the rest of my life is gonna be the occasional Doritos Like crisp commercial and and and great theater work. I'm good. Yeah, and then I didn't work for you And I started having to wait tables again and be a bartender and I broke up with my girlfriend So it was like a really great year of you know, you're never safe This destabilize kind of place. I still have it. I'm sure that you do too even at the top of the swanky building or not
You're like no, I'm pretty much that no, you know, it's funny. It's funny. I know what you mean Like I still just feel like you have to have a plan always just if everything goes away Well, I mean it's funny I I still have dreams sometimes about going back being a waitress because I liked I liked waiting tables a lot Because working in the service industry in general I liked a lot because there was a certain things that felt like you just completed your nights like your night had a system And you completed it you interacted with people enough that you performed a little bit You were with people who worked also worked very hard, but the idea of like doing a good job still means a lot to me I know it means a lot to you. It's I get a lot of self-esteem from work This episode is brought to you by marshals fall fashion is well and truly on the way and marshals buyers are hunting down the must-have items You deserve for the right price that means every trip to marshals is a chance to find an everyday staple a show stopping hidden gem Or your next obsession with new items arriving every day stop by marshals today to find more quality more style and more value than you ever expected
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You're looking for the clickbait head like you're like is he gonna give me the juice I do are you method are you method so yes or no question? I Am in a way. Yes, but I think I think the term has been massively mischaracterized misunderstood and co-opted but people don't know a method is basically having a method and and like this the Stanislavski method the Strasburg method is about Trying to live truthfully under imagined circumstances and and and having it feel personal having it feel Connected to something that's interior that is not just a kind of more performative exterior Abstraction so so I feel like yes, but but I don't I think there's a way of doing it
That's generous. I think there's a way of accessing that work and that style of working that doesn't fuck with the rest of the cars That doesn't fuck with the rest of the crew that you don't have to lose a bunch of weight That's playful. Well, yeah, yeah totally and and generous like I and I my personal taste and my personal Sydney Lumet the great one of my favorite filmmakers of all time who seems to vanish as a director in his movies in the sense that like He let his movies be the movies rather than letting people know that he directed them Yes, I mean like every movie is such a different flavor such a different feel and Parker is like that too I'm a parkus exactly about him and so very one of our favorite films all time boxing alone I'm a parker and then does angel heart. Yeah, holy fuck Yeah, and so so so he says in his great little book making movies. I don't know if you've read he says a story about Paul Newman I think we did. Yeah, he says a story about Paul Newman in what was the movie they made together
It'll come back. He's like Paul Newman came with we're in the scene and Lumet was like, okay I think we're gonna reshoot this tomorrow because I think you need to you need to find out what this thing's about inside yourself And he comes out the next and and there was something very personal that he was referring to I think you know what this moment is and I think you're resisting going there and Pull me when we came back and he did the scene and it was like one of the great You know scenes of any city in the movie and he describes it as personal revelation It's like the act of job is personal revelation while the cameras are rolling the actors I respond to in storytelling I respond to feels like personal revelation Yeah, and through through the lens of a character I think about like I've talked about this openly about tic-tic boom Which is a film I'm very proud of and I really love like and I can feel thanks But I can talk about it because it feels very personal and also not personal at all in a way It does feel like that kind of liminal place of letting another spirit move through Intermingling with my own spirit, but also my mother's spirit is so much in that film But but it was very very personal because I just lost my mom and we were making this movie and it's about the shortness of life
It's about the shortness the sacredness of life. It's about being of service. It's about living out Your own calling your own destiny in a way And we're talking about waiting tables in that year off like like how how do you how do you hang on by hook or by crook to The note that you hear in your head that you have to follow like how do you play your note? How do you how do you not fall asleep to your note even though the europe salmon swimming upstream of a world telling you to To drop it and and take the night to five or whatever it is you mentioned directors You've worked with really interesting directors. You always do I have a question that I I want to ask fincher is one of my favorite Dr. Eunters. He's I love his films
Roshita was in social network. I know and I was like what was it like working with the fincher like and she's like he's so incredible to work with But I really want to know genuinely and not like digging for some I want to know what does the many many takes do how does it help? We you as an actor as it does it how is it not? Frustrating or like candy. Yeah, it's like I love it. You love it
I love it so I'm acting and I love hard work and I love sports and I love right and I love not going home Right with anything left to give and yeah, there's nothing worse as you know than going home going I could have done that better. Yeah, it sucks to feel it to feel like you're in bed You're just like ruminating of like oh, yeah, I was I my father put me through drama school He worked so hard and now I've just done like a half job Like this thing that I'm so lucky to do and so yeah, I love it and also I find it pleasure I just find the work really deeply pleasurable. I love positive reinforcement. I do I genuinely do it works on me Like I don't I don't I don't challenge her and me What I'm relating to is the competitiveness of like tapping into like fuck yeah, I'll do this fucking 30 times I don't give a shit I can tap into that but I need sometimes like I don't like um and I'm sure David isn't like this But I I don't do well when I like when someone's nagging me To use the phrase from the pick up artist
You guys It does not work I mean like when someone comes up like you know, hey, you're ugly Where Exercise class right if someone's like you're gonna work super hard in here and like you know and I'm just like no, I'm not I'm like you got here no matter what it's seven a.m. Like I'm like fuck yeah For me so in any of those Repetitive takes whether it's David or another director. Do you like do you trust when you get positive feedback with David? I do okay?
You would give it yep, and you bet what's so cool about David is that he's that he's that dad You know he's that dad that like knows that you need that uh-huh and he'll and he'll give it to you in abundance when you've like When you've really shown how much you care. It's that kind of coach Right. I love the sports coach like that like like like Paul Greengrass on the film the uprising is like that He's like incredible team captain. He's just like he's just like we were like a football team English football team and he was our he was our man and and and he he was so full of beautiful positive reinforcement Fit fit fit fit David would be finisher would be less quick with it for sure. Um, but when you got it it was like That you would be stoic about you would receive it and you would want to cry Thanks. It was like that level of like it meant so much and the big scene with like the smashing of the laptop
For anyone who doesn't know what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah And um we did a lot of takes of it and I there was like a few rounds of takes where I was like He's gonna call he's gonna. He's gonna call it soon. He's gonna cause okay one more time Andrew Oh wow. Yeah And then on the third round of 10 or 15 takes I didn't hear anything. I was just like on the floor with like I was exhausted and like just like snotty
Just like crying and I'm just like waiting for like at that point. You're broken in a way. That's like so beautiful It's so beautiful. It's the best fucking feeling in the world. I guess it's the best fucking feeling in the world. Okay, you say so
Okay And I just feel like a shadow approaching like covering like like the light that was on me Just gets like kind of covered by a figure and I look at his shoes and I look up And he looks down at me. He just puts his hand down and he takes my hand and he shakes my hand and lifts me up He's like okay, moving on and I'm like So hot Hey babe, you're doing okay, you're doing so great. I would have liked this about what I liked You're doing great, but you know me. I have to do 25 more I feel like I need to protect David as a father on set now. Yeah, you can you can feel that he's proud of you Yeah, because of what you're giving such a talented director. You can feel it's not withholding
It's like it's like it's not like you're doing a bad job and it's not like I'm not gonna give you the banana It's like it's like you can feel when he's like he's like we're gonna keep going to do another one thing about this He's a tender tender guy. He really really is getting back to the very beginning of what we're talking about is this idea that Caring about something is like it's just like very important and I'll sell for a meal because you're really doing it. You're really you're really You're really my therapist. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Okay. Um, you're my David venture and you're breaking me down
Um, no, but um, but when I feel like if I've checked out or I like feel like I Am acting like I don't care about something it really means that I've divested and It's a bummer because it means that I've lost some kind of relationship Sometimes you have to do it to protect yourself sometimes you do it because you don't have anything left to give Sometimes you do it because you don't feel like the person that you're with Earned or can hold it as well. Yes, totally totally totally You feel like you've lost something like it's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking It's hard breaking. It's hard breaking. You are very very as a person as a as an actor You really invest and it's and it's like it must be um, it must be it's awesome. It's why I think you need to take a break
I'm gonna take a break here. I am gonna take a break. I was too hard too hard to be an actor Being actor Contending to be things Pretending to be in a room in a peasant revolt It's hard. It's hard. Pretending to be a German magician. I go home at night. I'm like, how are we?
I just pretend it was cold. It was actually hot So and then and then um Wait, I do what I want to okay Seriously, whatever whatever you want to ask well, you know what I I love I love your uh, your Hold on Was a kiddo was a kiddo was a kiddo was a kiddo was like there would start a sentence and like never finish the sentence Yes, Fred was that sketch. He played uh Garth and Kat. I was so good. I love that sketch. Sorry Fred played a character
Called Nicholas Feynn. Have you ever let me ask you this? Okay, say you're in summertime in summer or again, but there's a dog Wait dogs or cats I've already told you that or I said on that podcast the when he would do it the cue cards would be blank You hosted us and I like it once yeah, I did it once yeah, I did it. I loved it Yeah, I absolutely loved it. I was so scared but again like service like I think the best episodes are when the host totally supports the cast That's not always like an intuitive thing which I understand but like nobody really pulls anybody aside to say like I know this might feel weird but you'll have the best time if you say yes to the stuff that like the cast likes and you know Like if you just like become an ensemble member, you'll have the best time It's not always um set up like that, but did you host ever spider-man or was it during spider-man? I was a second spider-man
I had Tom Holland in here sweet. Oh my gosh. Sweetie Pike. What a sweetie pie. Yeah, such a doll Such a talented actor so talented and I just have to say I love how all of you guys like show up for each other you talk about each other Talk about your experience the brotherhood now, which is really great Like I think like doing doing the one where we're all together really cemented some kind of yeah weird brotherhood that was just beautiful Yeah, and I I know Toby a little bit before but he was always my you know My north star with that character that like and and I loved what Tom's done And I think that was very healing for all of us to do that together to feel less alone in that very very weird singular experience like to be a part of this character's legacy that is maybe I don't know arguably one of if not the most popular fictional character in the history of Like modern fiction really really true. I don't know another character that is that beloved
And now you know mother boys. I didn't really they're now 16 and almost 18 the picture is helping Yeah, I insisted they get really like a lot of hair Mommy mother mother won't be mother will be disappointed. That's what I say. I wake them up and I say has your hair grown mothers disappointed Have you seen Andrews hair? I say don't let mother down. What did I say every day when I close the door
But they The way in which when that character was interested in their lives the way they Embodied him like they their bodies want to it's really why it's so Joseph Interesting you put that's really interesting. They want to get in that crouch. Yes, and they want to leap and it's so fun with those kinds of films Where you watch people come out of the film and they're just moving like dancers to like it's so cool And um, I just want to talk about Sally Field. Oh my god. Yeah, let's do that. Isn't she?
Wow, she's so good at acting. She's one of the best. She's so she really is maybe one of the best You worked with some amazing women fucking hell congratulations. You seem to really love women and everybody can tell thank God Because we love you and I and they and you and you can tell and Sally is I don't know I just what was it like to work with her? What did she like to be around? She's one of the great people alive or dead for that matter, but um, she's she's so
Weirdly still humble. It's a weird thing like I would say she has legend status She's like icon legend status as a performer as an actor as a person Um, and somehow she's retained a kind of home spun grounded Again in the same way that redford made me relax Like sallie's is someone that you just feel like you're with the best friend aunt you could ever wish for I was thinking about this in the day actually I think one of the great Highlights and privileges of my life was to be able to give her a lifetime achievement award at the saga. What she is So great. I felt so lucky. I almost said no because I just didn't think that I could handle it because it was so It was such an like she is so beloved and and rightly so and she's so Beautifully extraordinary and ordinary side. She honors her ordinaryness in such an inspiring
I really can't believe I can even talk about her in this fashion So funny you say that she's so so so talented And I've she's probably her and meryl probably the two most influential actresses in for me growing up. Um, but she never felt Above or below us ever. She never put herself on one down. No, it was always just like just just just her There's a million people that would have wanted to talk to me today about you. I know about this part of your thing I'm like excited and nervous and you got so many friends so many talented friends and they all love you and they all want to It is it's a really you should know that it's a really nice thing when you have a guest on and there's like so many people that would want to Speak well back. That's crazy. Um, we talked today to Lin-Manuel Miranda
And um he talked about the process, you know of working with you and and how you know when he said, you know, um Can you say you know when you were like when you make this and he was like a year and you're like, yes Amazing. I love that and that is now knowing a little bit more about your competitive spirit. I understand that which is like I can do a Coach. Yes. Yes. So true. Um, his question was he just spoke a little bit about how what a good swimmer you are and how he didn't know that and
He calls you the Michael Phelps of That be Do you swim a lot? Do you like to swim? I still swim. Yeah, I know it's translated. Yeah, it's like my gymnastics comes to gymnastics kids that translated into like, you know, spiderman stuff Yeah, um, I took all of the stuff that my dad was trying to like discipline me with and I turned into something like a fun Aversion of those things like with swimming. It was like up at five a.m. You know, swim is like they train. It's crazy
I know so I turn that into surfing so like my paddle is pretty strong and I can yeah, so I like I surf more than I swim But I swim I don't I don't really swim swim anymore I'll do like open water swimming and swimming in the sea and like to be in ponds and like natural places Yeah, do you have long arms? I don't think that's in your business Fine. Well, I'm not gonna tell you what linson I know that your least strong sense is your vision But you could have been an effort to look at the arms I'm like Okay, can you clear something up for me? I'm like, I'm like, when you see your arms long or they surely me where I do this Okay, but he said he said first of all he was like tell ask Andrew what He said the only way it's like columba with his The only way I can figure out it's a good beer fuck Pierfock me and him at the same birthday not too much No more more than me. No, you're up Just because the the moon around is particularly long swim is arms. I don't know. I just now wait my glasses
But my nose is strong. So I'd like to just Nevermind. I'm out. I'm out. I'm not even smells like chlorine Oh shit. Oh, Peter fock
Right if you anyone under the age of 50 Colombo, goddamn it Local so much but so Lynn Lynn's question for you was um What other secret you know, he ate a two-parter first was like what other secret what other secret are you good at? We don't know yet. I don't know he's like tell us now So director can know what he basically was basically saying like, you know, does anything feel like too much of a challenge Um, you do a lot of you really take on a lot of challenges for the work that you do your game. Yeah, that's cool question I it's a question I've been asking myself. Mm-hmm. You know, you know, I'm really scared of yeah
I'm gonna tell you anyway. Um being a big dad scares So Seriously Say it yeah, well, I mean that I think that that would be the biggest most important thing I ever probably do yeah And I know that to be true makes me want to Yes I've been a son. Yes, we have all been born from dads and sometimes not right right. I don't know don't cancel us Wait, but get let's get back to crying
But you're gonna be such a good dad I want to do it. I do want to do it. I kind of you can sometimes feel a bit selfish with I want to be a little I don't know. I don't know so I so I'm in terms of a challenge. I can't imagine a greater a greater challenge than I'm taking that kind of responsibility Um, and then there was another question about stuff. I'm good at um I sad. I'll I'll respond in a sad way always
I get it relates back to the body failing. Oh my god. What are you gonna say? Just grab something Yeah, I um I was playing basketball recently. I love basketball and I thought I think I'm pretty good at basketball I have a theory about this I think the worst injuries happen with men in their 40s when they play basketball. It's it's a theory that's backed up with a lot of evidence
I had what did you do? She comes and she's like I love my sister. I was like get in the car She's in your keys in your hand for 10 minutes. I've been waiting for the car. I was like just a second Okay, sorry. Sorry. Okay basketball. Let's get back on track. Let's get back on track. Let's get ball with some friends
I was playing with Woody Harrelson. Oh great. He's a good basketball player. I know that. I can't jump. He's one of my all-time favorite movies
Why am I holding these belts like they're cars? Okay Do you have our cheese? If anyone's not watching this and just listening to on the podcast fuck. I'm so sorry I'm sorry Jesus Christ I was playing with Woody who I love and I've been a fan of forever and my man can jump is just one of those All-time great movies. Yes, it's one of my all-time favorite performances all time all time all time all time all time And I was so excited to play with him and then as soon as we got on the court, I just froze. Oh, I was just like
You got in your head. Just like I was just like the seven-year-old of the party that just wants to go home. Oh, god. Yes It was like fighter fighter freeze. I was right for it. I fully frozen folded and I played really badly. I just want to apologize to
Yeah, I just I love what he's so much. I've been wanting to play with him for so long and it was our final time And he's still plays great and he's like, you know, I don't think you should. What do you feel listening? You're gonna blow out your knees He's taking really care of himself. He's a good pace. He's fiercely. Yeah, I love it. I absolutely love it
Anyway, so I think that I thought was a hidden talent Lin turns out There was never maybe there so there we have it. You made a movie that took place in 1381 And it is a peasant uprising. It looks badass. It's cool. It looks I saw the trailer for it and The feeling of like whoa, this is a very political very interesting movie to make right now And what is it about? Yeah, it's a truth. It's about true events in that period of British history
It's that it's called the peasant revolt. Um and it was a big uprising among the Ordinary folk of the of the British Isles that came together in an organized way And it's um, it's told that the story is told in a way that is very unique And it's because it's this it's one of my favorite directors of all time Paul Greengrass People would have seen a lot of his amazing films like Captain Phillips or the born series movies with Matt Damon or Uniting 93 or bloody Sunday the news of the world with Tom Hanks Um some of my favorite films of all time. I've wanted to work for Evan and it brings up really interesting questions about revolution about violence and revolution Whether it's not how change can happen without some form of military coup like it's really a visceral story It's so cool. It looks incredible. It's and it's a ride as well. It's also just like a really entertaining kind of action film
It's like a really cool. It also has my my scariest kind of villain, which is a boy king. Oh, yeah boy king tyrant boy king. Oh, yeah There's nothing scary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Richard Richard this this king Richard was 14 years old and he had and at that time This is what's crazy at that time and it wasn't metaphorical. It was literal the king was the messenger of God's word on the earth So anything that the king uttered was literally treated like it was sent from heaven above There was any equivocation of that meant you were treasonous and traded to the throne So anything that this boy decides this 14 year old boy who is being governed a lot by these Money holding power holding land holding oligarchs was treated was had to be it was there was no question It was just like that's the way it is water is wet. You know sky is blue the king is god on earth Okay, that's that so yeah that level of power. Yeah, it's a really interesting thing for right now I need to finish. I need to finish you need to go 45 but 45 other things to do tonight, but no, this is But I want to finish by asking you the question I ask everybody which is what are you listening to watching numbing out with?
Numbing out man. Okay. What do you what do you what video do you like what movie? What's your video? What's your video?
Sometimes it's just a video of like a bird eating what's your video right now? We're back on the first date now We're back on the first day. What's your favorite video? My video to watch my you want When you want to turn wolf yeah, yeah, what's the video? What video do you watch?
My favorite video right now is I've been watching a lot of Roy Horn of six feet of Roy fame because I play Roy Horn in this Upcoming Apple TV show and we just finished. Do you know this? I love this for you? You're playing Roy Horn. Yeah, so I've been watching lots of Roy Horn videos That's why your hair is a lotion. Yes. Yes, that's partly but then we just end up putting wigs on of the same hair
Yeah, it's like can I get a wig of this on this? Yeah, that makes sense. No, no, no, it does make sense Oh my god, we're playing them through min-jood laws playing six free And we're playing them through that through the decades from their 20s through 60s. It's amazing. It's so fun It was so hard. I'm an eater. I mean man eater. The name means man eater. I did not know that the tiger that there was an incident with
Incidents there was an accident. There was an accident. It was named on to court which means man eater I cannot wait for this project and Roy hand raised him. Yeah, wow. Yeah, so I'm obsessed. Yes, that's a good sign
I've yeah, we were prepping for a year. We shot it for six months and I'm still obsessed with Roy I still adore him and his spirit. Yes, I've just been watching lots of Footage of him for the last year and a half and I continue to watch it because I just and have you handled tigers? Have you been near tigers? I have been there tigers. Yes, but I only
Legal and safe way, but I did feed a tiger Hand which was kind of incredible tigers are amazing and I and I and I say to them good days, sir Yes I say to tigers and I and it is nice to meet you and I shall take my leave Tigers scare the fuck out there so live with them I know he hit a thing in the morning He had a button as he woke up and it sent a bell into the garden letting the tiger that he wanted No, it was time to come snuggle the tiger came into the house came up to the bed jumped on bed And they snuggled to wake Roy up. He was incredible something else. Yeah, he was something else. Andrew Garfield. Mm. Let me pull up
We have talked so much. This was so fun. We yeah, we yeah, we yeah, but I knew we were me too. It's been a while I know it's so fun to be with you. I love talking you I feel like we're from the same planet in some regard I feel like we're from some kind of same universe which I I love just being with you and I've always had remember when I first met you it was with Jane Aronson Dr Jane Aronson and the World Wide Orphans Foundation and I was really nervous to meet you because I'm just a huge fan of yours And I just think you're so wonderful I hadn't known many famous people at that point and you were just like so warm and Gulfing and encouraging and caring in such a genuine way that made me feel a lot of hope for For being a person in this world and I you're a beautiful person. I really do it. Thank you so much
You smell so good It's my best sense and I appear to say Andrew smells great just like we thought Andrew Garfield that was so fun. Oh, you're just a real silly Billy I had such a good time with you. Thank you so much for doing this and and for this polar plunge You know we talked about some great people that Andrew work with including Sally Field and I just wanted to remind everybody If you're looking for a movie a beautiful movie that's filled with heart and will make you cry and it's all about like the Spirit of a woman saving her farm check out a movie called Places in the Heart with Sally Field and Danny Glover and a young John Malkovich and Ed Harris and Amy Matigan and it's so so good Um, not enough people talk about this movie and it's one of my favorites places in the heart Sally Field I love you Andrew Garfield. We love you. Thank you so much for doing this episode and thanks everybody for listening. See you soon
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