Andy Greenberg from WIRED on his book "Sandworm."

In this CyberWire special edition, a conversation with Andy Greenberg, senior writer at WIRED and author of the new book "Sandworm - A New Era of CyberWar and the Hunt for the Kremlin’s Most Dangerous Hackers." It’s a thrilling investigation of the Olympic Destroyer malware, and an accounting of the new era in which we find ourselves, where nation states can target their adversaries critical infrastructure, and the often unintended consequences that follow.