Andy Morrison plus Toby & Paul discuss the Derby win, Pep's tactics, how bad United are

Ian Cheeseman was the BBC's Manchester City correspondent for nearly 25 years and has been a fan all of his life. Here he hosts his weekly podcast, Forever Blue, where all things Man City are discussed. Sponsored by Eamar Development Uk Ian is joined by former Manchester City player Andy Morrison and Paul & Toby from the Forever Blue squad to look back on City's 3-0 win at Old Trafford against Manchester United. They discuss Pep Guardiola, Erling Haaland, the gulf in class between City & United and whether this is the turning point in City's season. If you'd like to support Ian's work you can message him by DM on twitter @iancheeseman