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EPISODE · Apr 28, 2026 · 34 MIN

Angel or Adam? Ezekiel 28 and the Divine Rebel Cherub (Part 1) | Ep. 15

from Theology in the Underworld · host Hans Moscicke

Is the “anointed guardian cherub” in Eden a divine cosmic rebel — the archetype behind later Christian ideas of Satan — or is it simply a poetic description of the human king of Tyre? In this episode, we dive deep into one of the most controversial and difficult passages in the Old Testament: Ezekiel 28:11–19.We examine:• The crucial Hebrew grammar that most English translations get wrong • Why the Masoretic Text should be trusted over the Septuagint here • Striking parallels with Isaiah 14 and ancient Near Eastern divine rebel myths • The figure’s original perfection, wisdom, beauty, and terrifying fall • Theological implications for the origins of evil, the serpent in Genesis 3, and the cosmic scope of the GospelThis is Part 1 of what will likely be a multi-part series. Expect rare Hebrew words, textual criticism, divine council theology, and a careful weighing of scholarly motivations on both sides.If you’ve ever wondered whether the Bible gives us a backstory for the Devil before the New Testament, this episode is for you.Resources mentioned:• Michael Heiser’s notes on moreunseenrealm.com• Hector Patmore – Adam, Satan, and the Kings of Tyre• James Barr’s philological analysisChapters:00:00 - Is This Satan?01:53 - Welcome & Episode Overview03:27 - Reading Ezekiel 28:11–1907:50 - Why This Passage Matters: The Origins of Evil08:36 - Primary Argument #1: The Hebrew Grammar (Masoretic Text)12:01 - Why Most Scholars Prefer the Septuagint Reading14:46 - Evidence from Numbers & Deuteronomy18:00 - Qere/Ketiv Notes & Jerome’s Testimony21:35 - James Barr & Aramaic Influence23:20 - Primary Argument #2: Methodological Consistency with Isaiah 1425:08 - Striking Parallels Between Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 2828:08 - Scholarly Consensus on Isaiah 14 (Wildberger, John Day, Heiser)31:08 - Final Thoughts & Teaser for Part 2🔥 Episodes are available in podcast form. If you find this content valuable, please consider leaving it a glowing review on Apple or Spotify. Cheers!#Ezekiel28 #Satan #DivineCouncil #FallenAngels #BiblicalTheology #SecondTempleJudaism

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