ANTHOLOGY — It's a Cloud Native world (Changelog Interviews #543)
This is our last week of hallway track coverage at The Linux Foundation's Open Source Summit North America 2023 in Vancouver, Canada. Today’s anthology episode features: Jeffrey Sica (Developer Experience & Programs @ CNCF), Eddie Zaneski (Kubernetes SIG CLI), Yaron Schneider (Co-creator of Dapr and Founder and CTO at Diagrid). Special thanks to our friends at GitHub for sponsoring us to attend this conference as part of Maintainer Month.
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- 0:00 This week on The Changelog
- 1:12 Sponsor: Sentry
- 5:21 It's Jeefy!!
- 6:51 So what do you do (here)?
- 7:50 Office Space!
- 8:51 Jeefy supports all CNCF projects
- 11:03 What is the motivation of the CNCF?
- 13:10 Miss you Dan!
- 13:27 What's the End Game for CNCF?
- 15:16 Must have all Cloud Native OSS
- 15:52 This is like, my opinion, man.
- 16:46 Give the personal answer
- 17:56 Everyone wants to CNCF their thing
- 20:13 Do you like this job?
- 21:48 What do you like most?
- 22:15 I have impact and help
- 22:43 I make the hotel bed
- 22:55 The Endowment effect
- 25:20 What If...? No CNCF.
- 27:30 This interview is OVER!
- 28:44 Sponsor: Raycast
- 32:39 Working on the Kubernetes CLI
- 33:48 Kube Control (officially)!??
- 34:59 What should we know?
- 35:13 It's all Go
- 35:26 From Bash to Go
- 35:48 Thank you ChatGPT!
- 36:37 GPT flattened the world
- 37:10 How many flags??
- 37:31 Biggest challenge as a Maintainer?
- 39:00 Kubernetes is all JSON
- 39:46 The Go YAML world
- 41:17 New contributor challenges
- 42:15 Putting down the wisdom
- 43:55 How to become a contributor?
- 45:01 What brings someone back 3x?
- 45:44 Rewrite?
- 47:46 Could you learn from Linux?
- 49:06 Useful software gets upgraded
- 50:24 Could be a Yarn / NPM situation
- 52:29 CI bill is $3M a year!!
- 54:05 It's a Cloud Native world
- 54:10 Maintainer hacks
- 55:47 What is your day like?
- 57:02 Thanks for talking Eddie
- 57:21 Sponsor: Changelog News
- 59:17 Incubating in the CNCF
- 1:00:10 Started Dapr at Microsoft
- 1:01:50 Distributed systems problems
- 1:02:57 Is this a framework?
- 1:04:28 Dapr stack?
- 1:05:11 Escaping Microsoft
- 1:07:10 Start a Microsoft and exit to Founder
- 1:08:07 From "No" to "Yes"
- 1:09:15 Nice Logos
- 1:10:40 Why a managed Dapr?
- 1:12:25 The reluctant Founder journey
- 1:15:26 Competing on "Best managed service"
- 1:16:30 You're not Dapr, Inc.?
- 1:17:31 Parallels to Dapr?
- 1:18:03 Polyglot drawbacks
- 1:19:02 The future of Dapr
- 1:19:49 Up next!
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