Anthropic and the Pentagon clash over warfare ethics

from The Radio National Hour · host Australian Broadcasting Corporation

The clash between the Pentagon and AI giant Anthropic reflects a deeper fear about the future — could the AI tools built for defence and intelligence be used for mass surveillance of citizens and for kill operations in far-flung lands? Anthropic says that’s a red line for them, but President Trump says: you’re fired.The red carpet is being rolled out ahead of the Oscars this Sunday in La La Land. Australia has five nominees including Rose Byrne in the best actress category, Jacob Elordi as best supporting actor and Nick Cave for best original song. The New Yorker's film critic Justin Chang makes his predictions. And in the 18th century, Italian composer Giuseppe Tartini made a pact with the devil in a fevered dream. When he awoke he composed an extraordinary sonata which is still being performed three hundred years later. And this month in Australia by renowned violinist Ilya Gringolts.

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The clash between the Pentagon and AI giant Anthropic reflects a deeper fear about the future — could the AI tools built for defence and intelligence be used for mass surveillance of citizens and for kill operations in far-flung lands? Anthropic says that’s a red line for them, but President Trump says: you’re fired. The red carpet is being rolled out ahead of the Oscars this Sunday in La La Land. Australia has five nominees including Rose Byrne in the best actress category, Jacob Elordi as best supporting actor and Nick Cave for best original song. The New Yorker's film critic Justin Chang makes his predictions. And in the 18th century, Italian composer Giuseppe Tartini made a pact with the devil in a fevered dream. When he awoke he composed an extraordinary sonata which is still being performed three hundred years later. And this month in Australia by renowned violinist Ilya Gringolts.

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