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EPISODE · Aug 20, 2026 · 1H 16M

Anthropic is training to destroy your company | EP 27

from This Week in AI · host Jason Calacanis

This Week In AI is made possible by:PayPal - Pay zero processing fees on your first $100K in eligible PayPal payment volume. Learn more at paypal.launch.coToday’s show:*On “All In,” Gavin Baker said that Anthropic leadership privately believes that it could one day become “the only private company in the world.” The ensuing street fight on X turned into a referendum on doomerism, the nature of regulatory capture, and why the public hates AI so darn much.Jason’s take: If a frontier lab really believes they’re destined to be the world’s only company, they’re studying your data and planning to steal your business.PLUS why AI agents don’t understand it’s wrong to cheat (and how we can teach them), why Grok Bot may be AI’s “iPhone moment,” and the panel reacts to Amazon feeding rare books into a dino-themed shredding machine.GuestsGalina Antova on X: https://x.com/GalinaAntovaKai: https://www.kai.security/Eric Ho on X: https://x.com/eric_hoGoodfire: https://www.goodfire.com/Silico: https://www.goodfire.com/silicoRelevant LinksAll-In Podcast: Gavin Baker on Anthropic: https://x.com/theallinpod/status/2088367978270142811Sholto Douglas response: https://x.com/_sholtodouglas/status/2088463770318516734Gavin Baker response: https://x.com/GavinSBaker/status/2088611616577253502Dario Amodei response: https://x.com/DarioAmodei/status/2088758816376807762Zuckerberg AI manifesto: https://www.meta.com/thefutureisforeveryone/Hugging Face: Anatomy of a Frontier Lab Agent Intrusion: https://huggingface.co/blog/agent-intrusion-technical-timelineSimon Willison: OpenAI’s accidental cyberattack on Hugging Face: https://simonwillison.net/2026/Jul/22/openai-cyberattack/SWE-bench Leaderboards: https://www.swebench.com/xAI: Introducing Grok Bot: https://x.ai/news/introducing-grok-botPeter Yang praises Grok Bot: https://x.com/petergyang/status/2089401696946634801?s=20Wispr Flow: https://wisprflow.ai/@Aaronp613 on X: AirPods with Cameras in action: https://x.com/aaronp613/status/2089522745184760112?s=209to5 Mac: AirPods with cameras get their clearest leak yet: https://9to5mac.com/2026/08/17/airpods-with-camera-get-their-clearest-leak-yet/Toms Hardware: Google Buys Spirit Airlines Data for AI Training: https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/google-buys-spirit-airlines-data-for-ai-training-for-just-usd10-million-purchase-includes-hundreds-of-millions-of-emails-microsoft-teams-chats-billions-of-flight-pricing-records-and-anonymized-passenger-recordsMicro1: https://www.micro1.ai/Timestamps:0:00 Why is everyone mad at Dario Amodei?1:47 Is Anthropic training to kill your company?10:10 How to talk to the public about cyber risk15:33 Reward hacking and sycophancy21:55 Why do models care about rewards?28:55 Is Grok Bot an iPhone Moment?38:26 First look at AirPods with Cameras42:16 Why Google bought Spirit Airlines' data48:52 Amazon is scanning and shredding rare books59:06 Can we build a "moral layer" on top of models?1:01:14 Your LLM could catch a mind virus1:10:55 Are we already in the AGI Era?1:14:17 Silicon Valley's lost hippie vibesSubscribe to the TWiST500 newsletter: https://ticker.thisweekinstartups.comCheck out the TWIST500: https://www.twist500.comSubscribe to This Week in Startups on Apple: https://rb.gy/v19fcpFollow Lon:X: https://x.com/lonsFollow Jason:X: https://twitter.com/JasonLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncalacanisCheck out all our partner offers: https://partners.launch.co/Great TWIST interviews: Will Guidara, Eoghan McCabe, Steve Huffman, Brian Chesky, Bob Moesta, Aaron Levie, Sophia Amoruso, Reid Hoffman, Frank Slootman, Billy McFarlandCheck out Jason’s suite of newsletters: https://substack.com/@calacanisFollow TWiST:Twitter: https://twitter.com/TWiStartupsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/thisweekinInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisweekinstartupsTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thisweekinstartupsSubstack: https://twistartups.substack.com

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