Anxious About Feeling ... Calm? (Episode 132) episode artwork

EPISODE · Nov 7, 2025 · 37 MIN

Anxious About Feeling ... Calm? (Episode 132)

from Disordered: Anxiety Help · host Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata

Panicogenic Relaxation: Why You Feel Anxious When Feeling CalmYou're finally feeling better. The anxiety has lifted. You're relaxed and calm for the first time in months or even years. So why does that feel so weird? And why are you suddenly anxious about feeling calm?In this episode, Drew and Josh explore "panicogenic relaxation". This is a common experience in anxiety disorder recovery where feeling normal, neutral, or relaxed can trigger concern or even high anxiety and panic. When you've been anxious for so long, that heightened state becomes your predictable default. The absence of anxiety can feel unfamiliar, strange, or even threatening.In this episode, we discuss:Why feeling calm or relaxed can feel uncomfortable or even scary during recoveryHow your brain's scanning mechanisms continue even when you're no longer anxiousWhy anxiety becomes a "predictable pillar" after long periods of struggleThe importance of practicing being relaxed, not just practicing being anxiousHow the shock-attention-resistance cycle continues even when you're feeling betterWhy all emotional states - including calm - need to be permissibleHow to recognize when you're still checking and monitoring even during neutral statesWe also share inspiring "Did It Anyway" stories from the community, including someone who kept pushing through fatigue to go to new places, and another who took their first step away from 13 years of self-medication.---Want a way to ask questions about this episode or interact with other Disordered listeners?  The Disordered app is nearing release! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visit our home page and get on our mailing list for more information..---Struggling with worry and rumination that you feel you can't stop or control? Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Worry and Rumination Explained⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a two hour pre-recorded workshop produced by Josh and Drew. The workshop takes a deep dive into the mechanics of worrying and ruminating, offering some helpful ways to approach the seemingly unsolvable problem of trying to solve seemingly unsolvable problems.

Episode metadata supplied by the publisher feed · Published Nov 7, 2025

Embed this episode

NOW PLAYING

Anxious About Feeling ... Calm? (Episode 132)

0:00 37:10

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

No similar episodes found.

No similar podcasts found.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Disordered: Anxiety Help?

This episode is 37 minutes long.

When was this Disordered: Anxiety Help episode published?

This episode was published on November 7, 2025.

Can I download this Disordered: Anxiety Help episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.
URL copied to clipboard!