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Yeah, I think it works perfect. So we're kind of, I mean, if you hear any audio differences, I mean, we've sort of been messing with it as we go, but we're also in a hotel room this time, it's like 24 hours removed from the actual Apple event. I was there. If you didn't see the videos that I published already, we have an iPhone 11 hands-on up, and we have a separate iPhone 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max hands-on videos, those are all up, but this is just gonna be our full look into that stuff.
So obviously Apple every year has a big fall event. We know it's coming early September, first two weeks, we always know we're gonna get the iPhone and then some other stuff. And coming up with this, there's a bunch of rumors and some people saying there's gonna be a one more thing and sort of a little bit of hype and questions going into it, but generally at the end of the day, when the event ended, I don't think there were any surprises. Maybe some small stuff, but pretty predictable.
I don't think there was, I think the most surprising thing was we all expected one more thing and there wasn't. And there wasn't, yeah. So I guess we know who not to listen to anymore. But I just want to think, I just want to talk about the event itself, because I've gone to a couple of these now.
This is at the Steve Jobs Theater, which is on Apple's campus in Cupertino. And it is wild actually being there because here's what I'll say. Apple events, Apple presentations of their products are the gold standard for presentations. And this isn't even like a biased thing coming from me.
I've been to a lot of presentations. I've watched a lot of on-stage attempts to deliver a presentation of new tech, everything from smartphone companies to laptops from the biggest of Microsoft and Google all the way to the smallest. And everyone's just trying to do an Apple keynote in various ways. You get your little quirks here and there and fun things and little jabs they take on stage.
But I'm curious what you think watching an Apple keynote versus some of these we've seen. Yeah, so I watched it all on the stream because we only got one ticket to go in. So I was hanging out at the hotel room. But yeah, I think even if you're one of the biggest Apple haters out there, you have to admit their presentations are just perfect.
They run like clockwork, everything just like. It is, it's also underrated, a technical masterpiece. So first off, it was streamed on YouTube this year for the first time that's never happened before. I remember days where you had to have Safari, specifically to be able to watch it on a browser or you'd watch it on Apple TV.
So this is kind of going in the other direction. We kind of had a bet going. How many people we thought we'd be watching live? Did you see a higher number than I did?
I saw like a point here. I didn't see a higher number. I was watching it on the TV in here so I didn't have the little like of you counter on it. But I think, would you say one?
I saw the highest number I got was 1.8 million live concurrent viewers on the live stream. That's not bad. Nutty. It makes me wonder how many people were watching on Apple.com in previous years.
Cause that was a pretty quiet event. What about the crazy ones, you know? Yeah, I think what's, people in here numbers like 1.8 and they look at YouTube videos that have like four or five million. You have to understand that streaming is way different.
1.8 people watching live at that time, not including the millions of people who are going to watch that after. Also, I realized when I was trying to download the keynote for the videos, you can get all the keynotes if you just search like Apple keynote and they have a podcast folder with all 1080p videos of it. I think it went back to like 2011. Yeah, I did not know this.
It's a free archive to download old keynotes. Yeah, so if you're ever looking to make a video on Apple stuff, you can get download everything right off of iTunes. And if you want to just go watch how great Apple's been doing keynotes like this, you can go back like 10 years almost I think for real. So yeah, so you can watch those old keynotes.
I saw a one and a half million. By the way, the record for most live concurrent streams I don't think so. I don't know what my guess would be. I think the highest I've ever seen on like Twitch was maybe a million and that was like, that was unheard of.
The reason, yeah, I think the reason it got so high is because it hit like 500,000. Then everyone's like, I need to watch this. Yeah, why is the stream going so crazy? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'd seen a SpaceX launch get up to when they literally landed those two rockets at once, got a past two million. Okay, yeah. But the record is the Red Bull Straz Jump. Oh.
Had about eight million live years. Wow, really? Just because it was this huge build up and everyone was sharing it as it was happening. And we all had to see the moment and that moment peaked pretty hard, though.
It's interesting, is the moment at that point the jump or is the moment at that point I'm part of the record for watching the stream? I think it's the jump and then the sort of heart stopping moment of when will he like safely land? It was a whole thing, but that's the YouTube record right now. But I just want to mention the technical masterpiece that is an Apple presentation.
A bunch of little things I noticed. One, the Steve Jobs Theater is made, it's a building built specifically to execute this to perfection. And I don't just mean like, it's a nice pretty building where you can take nice videos. No, the entire roof of it floats above the ground with entirely glass windows surrounding it.
When you go downstairs in the hands-on area, the entire top of it is a soft box. The entire top of it, okay? So you go down and you get into the theater part, there are silently moving cameras in tracks above your head. So you'll see like a Samsung presentation at Barclay Center, that big sweeping camera over the audience, that's a jib, that they set up beforehand to make those angles look cool on stream.
This is built for that. So they just lined it up and built it into the roof of this presentation center. At a certain point, I noticed they were doing a demo on a new iPad with a game and the dude walked off stage and the pedestal that he was holding the iPad on slowly, silently, actually kind of quickly disappeared into the stage. And then he just kept presenting, like he just walked over the top where the pedestal used to be, like nothing happened.
Like there's just a bunch of pedestals underneath that stage waiting to come out whenever you need it for a presentation. It was crazy. That is pretty crazy. I mean, Google has their amphitheater outside, which is, it's cool.
Being outside for a presentation is actually really refreshing as a tech thing. But that theater, I haven't been in the theater part, I've been up top, it's beautiful, that entire thing. And I guess I never even thought that they'd built that for these presentations. It's made just for this and it is so good.
There's outlets at every seat, the Wi-Fi doesn't explode. Like there's all the baseline things are good. But then like, yeah, the disappearing pedestal really blew my mind for a minute there. Do you think the Wi-Fi is perfect after that incident with Steve Jobs?
Oh, no doubt. It's like, yeah, the Wi-Fi must always be amazing after this. If no one's seen that video, you need to go look up Steve Jobs. Was it like the original iPhone trying to show web browsing and telling everyone to get off the internet?
Super early safari demo. I'd like everyone in the audience to turn off. Yeah, yeah, no, not happening, Steve. Anyway, so I really enjoyed the presentation, but let's just get right into what they announced.
There was a couple smaller things at the beginning. One was there is a new Apple Watch Series 5. I'm an Apple Watch user. I'm not a lot of people that I know personally are, but I see them everywhere.
The Apple Watch Series 5 will start at 399 with the GPS version and 499 for the cellular. And it hasn't always on display. That's like the main new difference with it. And I think a lot of people who are into traditional watches will appreciate that.
Yeah, I think it's not something I thought of. I don't wear a smart watch. I don't wear a regular watch, but I can't believe I never thought how great and always on display would be. It's such a good idea.
Well, it's not a good idea. I was doing it before, but they obviously are doing it now, which makes total sense. Yeah, this is one of those things. It's a new technology that they're talking about.
It's a dynamic refresh rate. So it can go modulate from 60 hertz to one hertz, which is one refresh every second. So if you're just having like a static face and it apparently will not affect your battery life, at least not significantly enough for them to change their estimates. So yeah, same battery life, which is for me like a day and a half and you get always on display now.
So that's pretty cool. That's awesome. And then the other thing was the new baseline iPad. Not a whole ton of crazy fascinating stuff going on here.
I was actually almost kind of surprised. If you watch, again, here's a video to check out. Quince and azilabs. He did a really just funny like off the cuff video of just talking through all the stuff.
And he said something that I really agree with, which is I didn't even really expect that to get any stage time, like that new baseline iPad like a cheaper iPad. Yeah, usually that's a quiet story fresh. The story goes down. Oh, new iPad, baseline, $329 supports the old pencil with the stupid lightning connector.
You're like, it's a thing. It's got the smart connector now for a keyboard, but generally just a great value tablet. It seems like their main point behind all of that was this is competing against lower end laptops. And it kept saying over and over again, why it's faster and better than the world's top selling PC.
The best selling PC that I've had. I took a little, not a fence to that. It's kind of the best selling laptop right now is probably some junk HP. It's less sold at.
If you go Amazon and search for the highest selling laptops, they're not great. No, they're terrible because people want to spend no money and expect something great out of it. So, tough thing to compare to, but got to that job out there when you can. Yeah, I was kind of expecting more jobs, actually, up to that presentation.
Your tweets were hilarious about that. Oh, still no job, nope, there it is. Yeah, there it is. Usually within the first hour of any app presentation, you can expect them to talk through all their previous updates about here's our customer satisfaction number.
Here's our competitors. Here's our iOS 13 update numbers. Here's our competitors. Look how badly they're doing.
But they kind of skipped that whole update thing. So I was waiting for the Jabs. And I guess, yeah, I tweeted maybe five minutes before the first jab, like, why aren't there any jabs yet? I did also make a typo.
I said jobs, but you know what? That's okay. I think the first jab, which is just, like, our A12X bionic was better than any two-year-old Android phone. Something along the way.
I think it's something, like, the, I thought it was the A13 bionic will be better than Android chips in two years. Oh, yeah. I think they said the A12 bionic. Oh, the A12?
Yeah. So yeah, big claims, big jabs. I get it. But that's a new Apple Watch Series 5 and a new baseline iPad.
I think it's just called iPad. There's no real name. Yeah. Why make a new name when you can just use the old iPad?
Whatever. Just make it confusing. Don't worry. They have a lot of great names coming up.
Next up, they got to the phones. There's Apple TV Plus subscription, which is five bucks a month. That's lower than I thought it would be. That's lower than I think everyone thought it would be.
And then there's Apple Arcade, which is a game subscription. And there's a hundred exclusive games, I believe. And that's five bucks a month as well. I'm not the biggest mobile gamer.
The demo isn't exactly swammy. It was some modified Frogger looking guy. Yeah. I remember playing Frogger when I was younger and loving it.
But that was, that looked, I was expecting to feel nostalgic. And I just didn't really. It wasn't, you know, the cartoon baby. I didn't really feel that.
So whatever. But, you know, those two things happened. But we really were just waiting for the phone stuff. And we got it.
Iphone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max. Nice. Just rolls off. Just, you know, people will definitely say it the right way every time.
I'm going to start with iPhone 11. So that replaces iPhone 10R. Yeah. Can we talk about naming scheme first?
Okay. I think that's a, I think it's a great idea. I just think they should have done it last year. Right.
So iPhone 11 is just sort of the standard now. Not the name of the 11R. So that's, it's not missing anything or it's not the 11Lite or E or. Exactly.
The lightweight phone. It's the iPhone 11. And the majority of people who are going into a store are just saying, I want a new iPhone. And that's what they're actually looking.
They were looking for the XR. Yeah. I want the light version. XR?
Yeah. When it's 10R. Yeah. No one's going to say that.
I'm also glad they dropped that. Yeah. But yeah, people gone to the store. They just want the cheap, good, better iPhone than last year.
And that's what they got. Exactly. And it makes total sense. And then the pro version is that if you're spending $1,000 on a phone, you're, you're expecting to do some, have something that's kind of extraordinary.
Right. So the iPhone 11 is $699 to start. Yep. And I'm going to blank on the storage ratios.
Again, I think they did the whole like 64, 256 thing. They skipped 128. Okay. I'll have to double check that.
But 699 is $50 cheaper than the iPhone 10R started out last year, which was 750. So pretty impressive there. And I mentioned that in my video. They actually lowered the starting price of a new iPhone.
But a lot of what you're going to see in this phone is very similar, A13 Bionic. As far as I know, very similar RAM, same size LCD screen, they're calling it the liquid crystal display, longer battery life by the 10 hour by one hour, which that was the best battery life I've ever seen in an iPhone. So that's pretty impressive. An hour longer.
I don't know what scientifically that means. Yeah. If it's one hour of your day being longer. Yeah.
One hour of screen on top, whatever. That's just the way Apple likes to say it. Did you have a favorite color? Because there's six new colors.
In that, I didn't. Not really. Honestly. I think I would probably just go black.
Yeah. So there's black. There's a product red, which I guess is like a little bit of a lighter red than before. I showed in my video.
Green, yellow, white, purple, the kind of pastelli in a way, the green and purple in the yellow are pastelli. So, but yeah, same signal. I wanted to show you the display. Same resolution.
It's not bumped up. It's not 1080 or anything crazy like that. It's not brighter. Speaking of bumps.
Yeah. I didn't get to play with the phone, but I believe you mentioned that there is a camera bump and there is a camera bump on the camera bump. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. There's a camera bump. Lip. Yeah.
Yeah. That's a better way of putting it. So the entire back of the phone is actually kind of impressive. The 10 or sorry, the 11.
It's a glossy phone. And then the camera square is what I'll call the first bump is actually matte. So it's sort of frosted. Okay.
But it's part of the same sheet of glass. So it's just milled out and it sort of crests up into this hump where it's actually frosted. And then protruding through that frosted square is your circles, your stove top burners of. Yeah.
I love that. It's great. And that protrudes up a tiny, tiny bit over the top of that and that goes back to glossy. Okay.
It's an interesting look. Not the biggest fan actually of like switching it up on the device, but you know, it does look a little different from the renders. A lot of renders had it all glossy or all matte. So yeah.
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I'm not the biggest most excited person about iPhone 11 at the moment. There's a couple other little things like faster face ID 30% faster and also they mentioned possibly slightly more angles to unlock the phone and this I really want to test because some of the promo videos show the phone like flat on a table being unlocked and that's the type of thing they show in a promo video but doesn't necessarily work in real life because they showed almost the same thing this lady coming out of a pool with the phone flat on the side of the pool and she unlocks it and that's just not working that way currently on iPhones. Yeah. That's generally should be good.
I mean if it all works it should be great because that's the main complaint if it's lying on your desk and you're on your computer you don't want to lean over your desk a lot and it's really annoying like a lean way over my desk to unlock the phone and it's just like I don't do that. I'm a standing desk that's just even tough on your tiptoes. The ergonomics are not ideal but the main upgrade to iPhone 11 is the camera you get a second camera now it's a 12 megapixel ultra wide and 12 megapixel primary camera I really like this. I'm you know shout out to LG for way back in the day I mean one of the first ones to do ultra wide and now everybody's on that boat and I'm all for it there's ultra wide cameras everywhere now we get to see what an iPhone's ultra wide camera looks like and I suspect that the best part about it will be its consistency with the main camera.
Yes exactly. I think that's a big problem we've seen with other multiple cameras is one it's just completely different than the other one. It's almost like discourages me from using it like it's cool that it's ultra wide but like I'm using the ROG phone too right now and it has an ultra wide and then I shoot with it and it's just very different looking much softer little more chromatic aberration colors are different it just doesn't match the main camera which happens to be kind of decent spoiler alert so yeah I'm hoping the consistency is great there but it is you know a little bit of a different aperture I'm not sure exactly the numbers off the top of my head but this all remains to be seen we're going to test this out for the full review but I'm I'm crossing my fingers. Yeah I think it's interesting you said on your way home from the event you're talking with an Uber driver who was asking about the phone and you mentioned an ultra wide and he's like oh they just keep changing the cameras every year but I never noticed a difference so people don't seem to understand what that means and I'm excited to see what the average person's like when they tap that point five button and we're like oh yeah I can get a lot in this picture.
That was a funny conversation I was yeah I was in the Uber and the guy was like oh have you seen the new iPhone so I'm like yeah I saw him he was like well what's new I tried to say cameras were new and he was like look every year I hit the camera button I take a picture and it looks the same I'm like well okay so you're probably like you know zooming in and out and the telephoto camera on the iPhone's never been amazing so it's not really convincing anyone it's worth having a second camera but when the second camera is an ultra wide and completely different totally different field of view you can go way up closer objects you can get all these crazy you know perspectives but I guess I didn't do a good job of explaining it because he just kind of was like yeah well whatever I take a camera I take a picture again it looks the same whatever so yeah we'll see how regular people respond to it but there's some cool cues in the camera app at least definitely I thought it was interesting the camera app currently on the iPhone is like all the rest of the UIs blacked out and there's just your image of the viewfinder and so this new camera app will show like a great out slightly great out version of what the ultrawide would look like but it's not in your shot until you hit the ultrawide button and then it compresses it all into the viewfinder so you to me maybe I'm doing a bad job explaining it but I feel like I might confuse people into thinking that they are capturing an ultrawide before they actually are I got to talk to more people about this because it's a weird future what you're saying yeah like you have you have what's actually in your photo where it normally is and then wider than that you have you can see what the ultrawide like outside of like the like guides yeah outside of the guides but it's not in your photo when you snap the photo it won't be there okay so yeah I don't know how people react to that it's supposed to encourage you to go oh look how much more I could capture and you switch to it but we'll see how that goes is there a I forget if they mentioned this in there but a way that if you take a photo it snaps it with both cameras yeah so there is some small software stuff going on where when you snap a photo it will keep some information from the wider camera and you can turn this on or off in settings because it does take more storage sources but yeah you can like if you take a photo and you realize some of it is chopped off from the corner you can sort of reframe it and drag things that weren't in the frame back in that's awesome that's pretty cool yeah I wish actually a bunch more cameras were doing that yeah that's good use the ultrawide the other thing I like is the like quick video shooting where if you are in photo mode and you see something you want to take a video of instead of having to swap to video mode you can just hold down the shutter button and take a quick video kind of like snapchat exactly yeah yeah I think that's that's a perfect UI tweak to make is people are just so used to that doing that in that app now my question was that's where burst mode used to be you hold the shutter button down where did burst mode go the answer is you hold the shutter button down and then drag it over to the left where the image preview is and then you're doing burst mode I think a lot of people just won't do that anymore probably I don't think people are using personal camera anyways but yeah and then if you also hold the shutter button down and drag to the right it will lock it in video recording mode so you don't have to hold your finger on screen yeah oh so yeah I like good UI stuff yeah good gestures cool so that's iPhone 11 other thing is both cameras get 4k 60 oh yeah yeah you can do 4k 60 ultrawide which I don't know a couple other phones that have come out haven't used that ultrawide to its full ability you couldn't do video with it you couldn't do full 4k 60 actually one plus with the Android 10 update they said they weren't going to but you can actually not do video on ultrawide but yeah for full 4k 60 from each camera which is sweet that's yeah on IP 60 a phone I just keep going back to that go pro I really hope some snowboarding kid like tapes his iPhone to his helmet and runs down with it I can't wait to see it that's going to be a great video to stabilize everything okay so that's iPhone 11 and that brought us to your iPhone 11 pro and iPhone 11 pro max great names Apple and that's that's where we get to your thousand dollar and $1,100 starting prices so these phones are I mean there's only again I did a video there's a couple main things that are different but it really comes down to the camera again as the main difference talk about color quick you asked me what my favorite color of the last one was okay yeah this is where I saw color and I was like oh okay I'm I'm kind of like torn on this so there is I'll say the foreign new color names they are silver which kind of looks like white I've always called silver white since they've gone from glass back this one looks even more bright white than any previous one I've seen there is a gold yeah you know typical gold but it's obviously different finish and then gray and green so space gray and green and they call it midnight green you want to live are you really I really like it um you know it's yeah I think I remember I think it was more of like an emerald but you remember essential came out with those three actual colors and essential had like an emerald green with a gold had a little bit of aqua to it I think it was nice this is much different than that but this like matte green color something I don't know I think it's really cool I've always imagined having like a really sick off-road car wrapped in like a matte green color just super super badass and like this kind of not that the iPhones like your rugged off-road phone but yeah for some reason that color is just so different to me and I think that green and matte works really well together so I think it's cool I would probably put a case on anyways because I'd be terrified of dropping it but but it looks really nice huh from what I've seen I bet it actually looks better in person yeah I mean everyone I talked to you love the green and it blew my mind because I've never had anyone like really want a green phone before I think that also has to do with just like here's a new color everyone's pumped about it yeah yeah I mean if it was blue I think people would have gone crazy the same way I think any new color people would go crazy I'm sure there are some people who actually like that color but it's I think it's cool we haven't seen a phone really pull that off we're going way more like I feel like all the new phones now are here's dark with this hint of super bright color like the McLaren edition one plus or yeah you see all these like Vivo phones that have these like bright blue corners and everything so toning it back going like drab is I think really cool okay yeah I mean we'll check it out for sure I my personal favorite is a space makes sense because I really wanted a matte black iPhone and this is close to that but like I said it is now a matte finish for the iPhone pros and I'm a fan I'm a fan of the matte finish now here's a thing the apple logo which in the middle of the phone now is still glossy and you can feel it when you run your finger it okay and the camera square is also glossy so now it's the opposite of the iPhone 11 where the camera square is glossy instead of the rest of the phone and it kind of when you look at it looks indented even though it still is a protrusion it's a weird like eye trick it plays on me sometimes when I look at it but it's the same thing it's like a little bump on top and a little so top burners on top of the bomb and then that's your iPhone camera and yeah the apple logo being in the center that was one thing I found hilarious when there were the first rumors about it like only apple could move a logo on the back of the phone and see that much backlash like imagine google moving their logo imagine LG moving their logo Samsung moving their logo was it really nobody would care there was a lot I think Taylor's detected an entire video about about that is not about how bad about reactions to it and I didn't watch it so I don't want to say what his thoughts were on it but like only apple because they just make everything they do like iconic like every product they make you can make a simple outline of it and people would know exactly what it is and that's what they built their brand on so moving a logo what like half an inch down yeah man it's just everyone has an opinion on it and it's crazy to me that a company can design so well that small little changes like that yeah people out honestly I'm gonna be totally honest I didn't even notice I held the phone I looked at it and I you know had some some time to play with it and so on said like oh it doesn't say iPhone anymore it's just the apple logo and it's in the middle now cool neat okay cool I'm a little distracted by the giant stove top burner yeah I was really looking at the logo anymore I was kind of focused on the matte finish but anyway yeah so there are some other new features for the iPhone 11 pros so the main one being the triple cameras you have the ultra wide you have the standard and you have a 2x telephoto so now you can go from 0.5x to 2x some say that's a 4x optical zoom whatever you want to call it triple cameras a couple interesting things about it you can shoot portrait mode with the 2x telephoto or the regular camera okay that's pretty cool so actually yeah on previous iPhones where you switched to portrait mode you would immediately zoom in to telephoto and that's the worst camera and it would always look worse than a normal phone but on the 10 R I really like you could take wide portrait photos so yeah you can take either one whichever one you prefer which is cool and then of course your A13 bionic much better efficiency is going to give you and this is again a thing apple just says on stage but four hours more battery life than the iPhone 10 that's a big and the big one five hours more battery life than the 10s max on the 11 pro max that's a that's a big claim I'm interested to see how that translates into like if I notice it being a really much better battery yeah I feel like if you take the conversion rate of all day battery life to having like five hours of screen on time that probably means you've got like an extra 20 minutes right yeah I'm sure it'll work out to be less dramatic than you know five more hours like I really am only halfway dead when I thought I'd be dead yeah it's not gonna be that insane but I'm still happy that it's doing better it's not like I made the phone thinner and sacrifice battery life you know like they might have done in the past so I'm happy about that 18 watt fast charger in the box small great gripe is that the word small gripe with that it's still lightning but it's a lightning it's a lightning to USB type C cable and then it's a USB type C charger what are you doing it's so close what are you doing you put your foot on the bridge and you're like I'll cross it and then you turn around you're like never mind I'll I'll keep lightning for another year this all has me more hyped for um for the 2020 iPhone when I think we'll get a lot of the features that I've been thinking about but yeah at least it's in the box it's not on the box on the cheaper iPhone 11 but in the in the pros you will get that 18 watt it's not even that fast like I wish it was like a 30 watt 40 watt charger yeah I know like we're all getting super pumped that Apple but it's something in the box that most companies have in the box for years at this point but hey at least they're finally taking that baby step forward yeah I'm putting it in the box it's cool if it would be cool if you like supported 45 watt fast charging or something wild but anyway it still can wirelessly charge at 7.5 watts there is no reverse wireless charging like we kind of thought we would get yeah I think this goes into kind of like we saw all these rumors coming into it and we didn't see one more thing in fact we saw a lot less things that we were pretty sure about rumor wise or at least the overall public was pretty sure because they weren't big jumps like we were seeing these rumors of small things that didn't that seemed totally plausible and actually not that exciting and then the things that we didn't think were exciting we didn't even get yeah it seemed like kind of a I made a joke about how they should call it air power but then it also disappeared like air power so maybe it really should call it air power that reverse wireless charging just straight up didn't happen but yeah that's that's one thing I was looking to again face ID improvements again here with the the faster chip same size notch um hopefully more angles the whole deal um but there's a couple other weird little things that they decided to name one is the screen it's a slightly better screen so same resolution same's 5.8 and 6.5 inch sizes I believe but uh it's a bit brighter a better 2 million to 1 contrast ratio and they're naming this OLED the super retina display XDR I can confirm the markets didn't read that off piece of paper and I know I was trying to think of it my head and all I was like oh I threw XDR at the end of there but I yeah I'd spend so long time to remember that I didn't remember any I mean they started with like a pretty nice branding which is just retina display I like that name you know retina display means you can't see pixels when you're looking at it cool keep that then they moved on to the iPhone and I said super red display okay now you're getting a little weird like you don't have to say super anytime you name something super you're going a little off the deep end just reel it back in super retina display is already not a great name and then I sort of made parallels to the protisplay XDR that's launching later this year with much better dynamic range and HDR certification and I felt the need to take that XDR acronym of extreme dynamic range and attach it to the end of the super retina display so now if you really want to read it all out it's the super retina display with extreme dynamic range nice wow I can't wait for next year's a bigly super retina display XDR pro max I'm actually low key kind of worried about the next iPhone's names is that going to be 11 s max 5g I have a feeling they just go I think by changing xr to 11 and then going 11 pro will just see 12 12 pro next year oh no more s that's more ditching s I think they never should have done s I think they should have went 11 11 pro and done that name seem last year yeah that's probably true yeah that's probably true they got really they got people really into the tiktok thing but that still means it's going to be a iPhone 12 pro max 5g I don't think jeez I just hope they don't say 5g at the end of it but we'll see how it goes yeah I think putting 5g in the name of this year makes sense because it's so new yeah I'm hoping by the time apple's throwing 5g and it's not gonna be that big of a deal anymore it's kind of the same way a lot of android phones when they were the first generation of phone stuff 4g had to put 4g or LTE or something like that in the name of it like the thunderbolt 4g LTE yeah that doesn't have to happen it kind of feels like you know when you're browsing for something on Amazon and you see the title of the product is like four sentences long because it's just every like it's just yeah title yeah that's how I usually know it's coming from China it's crap they just got to get your eyes on exactly yeah one more crazy name um I didn't want to say it out loud okay so you can do oh let's go I know what's coming or you can you can take front facing slow-motion videos um in 4k I guess 4k 60 or you can do I think it's 120 or 240 so you can do slow-motion selfie videos now as you can imagine apple felt the need to name that so they named it slophies let's go I actually I just might this piece of paper with my notes you can see I took the time to draw a face-palming oh my god I almost just turned it off I couldn't I that's the second time I ever said that word out loud man let's go I hate it it's really bad and you can tell like you know when you get to that hands-on area all the people kind of have like a little script where they go through certain things are supposed to say to you and every one of them said that word and like kind of smirked while they were saying it like they're really proud of it and every time I heard it I just looked at them like really everyone woke up this morning and had to say like 10 times without smiling in the mirror before they came to work oh man so that's what can you do with it like the thing they showed was like a girl taking a video and her brother was blowing like a hair dryer and her hair was moving this is and like cool that that kind of has like a model like blue steel feel to it but like what else there's a couple so this thing about apple is they've usually been really really good but every time there's a new feature they always launch it with also an amazing way to sell it whether it's a great ad or a great explanation or just some great use cases and I was like waiting for it I was like oh great okay so what's going to be the use case for front-facing slow-motion videos and it was that ad with the hair dryer and like a corny like I guess an Instagram post and then there is a girl like standing with a waterfall behind her so the water behind her slowed down and then from that point on it was just people like moving her hair around yeah I feel like you have to have hair to experience and that's why they lost me my hair doesn't make any crazy you know yeah I'm sorry Marcus and I'm not getting our haircut until we can experience slophies you won't see the iPhone review until our hair is down to our shoulders and then I can do a slophie demo there it is I said it third time yeah I don't know that's uh they didn't really sell me on that feature in the moment but I'm sure some people come up with some interesting things it'll blow up on tiktok oh yeah for sure we'll get that that coming in either way that's basically it I mean if you're if you're thinking about buying these either of these phones at 11 11 pro level pro max camera is the number one thing you have to think about and I actually think that puts apple in kind of a precarious place because they're not clear cut the best camera at the moment and you know depends on what sort of world you live in if you're a if you're a video person I still would say the iPhone is the best camera and their improvements to the iPhone cameras are legitimately really impressive and I think it will still be the hands-down best video camera in a smartphone oh yeah I actually think real quick they show that demo of the film pro app where you could take video through all three lenses at the same time wild that was really cool I've never seen anything like that yeah that's like kind of incredible you just you pick one that's like your perfect framing and then you get to like spare frames in case you mess that up I thought that was neat I don't know how often you would use it but still like so the fact that demo like works at all is really cool so yeah I think in that world maybe they're safe but in the photo world if you're just like yeah a normal person I take pictures of my cat and my pets and my kids and my friends I just want the best camera like right now the hands-down choice isn't necessarily just iPhone like you have Pixel which takes Pixel 4 is about to come out we'll probably make all I bet Google right now is just writing down all their jabs they want to make Apple during their presentation because they're gonna have a very similar pitch for the Pixel 4 this camera's amazing so there's that we're about to get a new Huawei flagship their night mode is always incredible and their daytime talk about night mode yeah it's podcast you know what that's the thing it has night mode but and I can just rant on the lack of customization iPhones for a while but let me just say you can't enable it by default even on the pro phone where as a pro feature you might want to just be able to turn on certain modes you can't turn on night mode anytime you want it has to detect that it's below certain luminance then it will enable night mode and show a little toggle on the top where you can customize it you can turn it off if you don't want it but you can't toggle it on we'll have to test that I mean the results they showed on stage looked pretty impressive it's not having it they had that and they had that like we were taking photos and stitching it together for extreme detail kind of stuff yeah and it's called deep fusion they really name everything don't they deep fusion mode and that's gonna be coming later to I guess iOS and these new phones but didn't get to test that either so yeah I mean if you're if you're all set on an iPhone the camera is going to be your big upgrade the A13 bionic is is going to be great but like so was the A12 ionic I don't know if your phone's slowing down already so yeah that's that's kind of where Apple is living right now is just trust us our cameras good yeah it's gonna make a really fun camera bracket challenge oh really I can't wait for that video and this is gonna make I think we this year we're gonna have to do some some side brackets of like night mode and ultra wide or something or portraits or something like that like we'll have our main one oh yeah I really think we need to test some of the more obscure things but maybe a smaller bracket but interesting I have a feeling this year we're gonna spend a lot of time on that damn bracket yeah I mean that was that was really fun last year if you haven't already watched it we did a super fun blind smartphone camera test where we put together how many was it 32 16 I think 16 phones ranging from like the highest end the pixels and the Huawei's and the apples all the way down to the iPhone so we really ran again it and there are some crazy upsets and some fun stuff but Huawei did eventually pull out the blind smartphone camera test win by just having what seemed like the brightest sharpest photo and that was good enough people just vote for it over what it's up against but yeah this year I think yeah you're right we might have to have some like subcategories of like who thinks they have the best portrait mode who thinks they have the best night mode you know things like that might be fun to try yeah I can't wait that was probably my favorite video last year it was a lot of fun to make alright well that's that's essentially what happened as far as new hardware on stage we're gonna take a quick break and we'll come back 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youtube.com slash your rich bff all right welcome back so we asked you guys on twitter from waveforms wvfrm twitter what you guys wanted to know about you know the apple event just a general week the first really big week of tech timbers I guess what I'm calling it yeah and uh we got some good ones and I guess we'll just jump right into it it's becoming a pretty fun like regular part of the podcast having a lot of fun it kind of opens it up to more to more about each of us and our thoughts and how much everyone thinks I work for the channel and probably have the exact same but it's the best way of different answers to it yeah so one of the top ones here will apple tv plus only increase the wall of apple's ecosystem um depends on how into tv you are I read interesting post about how they're trying to be kind of more like hulu than netflix which I'm not super into this world I've just recently started using netflix again but yeah it's a wall it's kind of a small wall in my world I don't really care much about it but it's a little wall I guess the question is is are you using your regular password for it are you giving your apple password out to friends because we all know that so let's see my netflix login account is my sisters my hulu login account is sister's boyfriend and our hbos subscription is our friends parents so so there is family sharing so if you want to like get your own and then share it'll work and netflix does something like that similar yeah but uh yeah I don't know I'm not super into it so I guess it's a small wall for me yeah small wall someone says Austin Evans made a great video about the iPhone 11 versus iPhone 11 pro and said the base model is a better deal than the pro counterpart would you agree yeah I would agree yeah as a deal it makes total sense because diminishing returns when you start paying four hundred more dollars yeah three hundred more dollars for something you're not getting that that much more but it's an enthusiast phone for sure honestly as far as I can tell you know if you really want like better cameras the 11 and 11 pro have the same standard camera and the same ultra wide camera how much do you care about that 2x telephoto not much right like if you're if you're looking at the difference between the 11 and 11 pro aside from the math finish which is really pretty cool to me four dollars cool yeah I don't know about all that but it's you know then you're just looking at you're looking at the battery life you're looking at OLED and high resolution versus LCD and low resolution that's basically it and then you have 2x versus not 2x yeah I'm actually surprised I I kind of thought the 2x would be on the the regular and the ultra wide would be the extra thing you're getting but having a lot on the cheaper one I'm glad I didn't do that yeah I wouldn't be kind of mad if they didn't have the ultra wide on the cheaper one so yeah I agree that the the 11 is a better deal than the 11 pro for sure yeah now that while I apple one plus and Samsung all have prone in a name do you feel Google and others will follow and does this make the title pro meaningless yeah then the pro name deep side the pro name is already kind of becoming a little bit overused and borderline meaningless um and apple kind of I was thinking about this as they were on stage and they made the statement at the beginning about what they think the word pro means and then I said yes we have this pro display and we have these this pro battery but when it comes to smartphones like there isn't really a pro smartphone user so when you have like a laptop for example you have macbook and you have macbook pro well the pro is going to use for people who are going to be doing professional things like editing or graphics design or coding things like that and they need certain things extra processing power better display iPad pro you can even make that argument iPad versus iPad pro you have iPad which is just you know for leisure maybe you want to high refresh rate display maybe there's certain things about having usb type C that make you know importing media easier for whatever you do professionally so you can make that argument yeah I mean we've seen like tld show us that you can do some pretty crazy things on the iPad bro so people might not like good minute but there are some pro things you can do on iPad and then you get to the smartphone world and you have you have one plus seven pro you have the real me no eight pro you have the galaxy obviously iPhone pro I can't think of what the Samsung one is I don't there's like one or two other big pro phones whereas just like I don't know what makes these phones pro yeah I can't it seems like it's just pro means the expensive here's what it is enthusiast exactly pro is the new max is the new plus is the new turbo is the new whatever it used to be before that it's the new like it's the better one and so yeah if you sort of dilute the actual meaning of the word pro in other you know industries and other electronics it just comes down to this is the better one it's not the better specs it's faster it's better just yeah you know it's funny there's probably only one use case I could see somebody using a phone in a pro scenario and that's kind of how I remember when ROG phone one came out they were kind of explaining to us how mobile gaming is kind of exploded overseas mostly in like China yep so I could see somebody playing professional mobile games and actually buying something like that except what are two phones that don't have a pro on it razor phone and ROG phone they don't have a pro in the name maybe they should maybe just think about joining that train yeah so I'm gonna the word pro just in general has sort of lost its meaning in the smartphone world but it just means a better one yeah pretty much oh someone said are all the colors from the iPhone pro the matte color and will be a fingerprint magnet okay here's the thing I have a small worry about the matte finishes I love them obviously I think they're gonna look awesome but two things one frosted glass is actually a little bit slipperier than glossy glass because your finger in your fingerprint on the oil on your finger you know when you hold the glossy phone you kind of feel that like tiny little bit of grip you don't really have that as much and then it didn't really seem like much of a fingerprint magnet I held the phone for a little while I handled it for a bit didn't have much of that as a problem but scratches I don't know how it's going to work out we had that frosted back of the pixel yeah and that had some weird scratch issues and occasionally you'd be able to like like wipe it off you know the definition of weird scratch issues because it was such a bad I was like oh my god this scratch is like oh wait you can wipe it off oh wait no you can't really wipe it off oh you can kind of wipe some of them off yeah so that's I'm really really curious to see like obviously we're gonna see Zach's video and he's gonna scratch the back of it and we're gonna see how it recovers but in real life when people like start scraping their phones like is that gonna be like an ugly gash or is it just gonna be like the same as a glossy one yeah also we see so many more clear cases now what is Matt gonna look like in a clear case that kind of makes it look it's glossy if you if you buy a matte iPhone and put a clear glossy case on it come see me come find me in the streets I have some words for you so when uh Stefano do you think we have hope that we finally get a USB type C iPhone next year let me just put it on the record now the 2020 iPhone is gonna be the most hyped iPhone in a long time because we've had you know the same sort of shape in the same general iPhone for probably three years now I'm looking for new design I'm looking for new battery I'm looking for a new high refresh rate display maybe I'm looking for new speaker system I'm looking for USB type C I'm looking for maybe pencil support I'm looking for maybe reverse wireless charging I'm looking for a lot of things in this new iPhone in 2020 already that we obviously don't have this year so yeah hopefully USB type C is one of those things you know my favorite thing that you just said there was it's gonna be the most hyped iPhone in a long time something something three years ago that's the tech world three years ago is a long time but I mean like even before that when we had iPhone 10 that was obviously the big hyped iPhone because we were going on edge yeah design change but also like now there's a notch like that's the first big phone with a notch and then we have all this like edge to edge stuff and look how close Apple got to the edge of the screen now we go and bezel is soon that whole thing that was like a pretty pretty big moment for the iPhone form factor and then before that again it goes a couple years back before we really see anything too drastic so yeah I know this seems like a big moment I guess I can see this being a bigger height moment because the 10 when it came out as much as people were hyped about it it also the notch which at that time was very like I hate this pretty bad so now we're gonna get a phone that's gonna have a notch where we're used to the notch by now so now we can just appreciate all the changes in it whereas before we had to appreciate changes while just dreading the notch yeah that's it's wild I mean honestly if you think about it like in a vacuum Apple just released a $1,000 phone in 2019 that has a gigantic notch with no fingerprint reader and face ID that's one of the biggest complaints like that by itself is kind of disappointing so yeah I'm really looking forward to the 2020 iPhone but I guess it's too far to look ahead we're gonna see a bunch of stuff between now and then but yeah but do you think I should wait I think you should wait a year and a month for the next iPhone we just did a video on that it was like yes you don't buy this new iPhone there will be a better there will be another one next year trust me there's a new iPhone coming out yeah so everyone who still has their iPhone for waiting for the next time just stay patient I'm sure the headphone jack will come back eventually Jacob asks was 3D touch killed silently yes 3D touch is dead in all of Apple products now it was only really on the iPhone 10s and 10s max I guess we had long touch on the 10r and you know the iPad and other things but it's yeah just moved to have to touch now and they've expanded the peak and pop thing that you can do with a long press still so it's like the only thing you're really missing is the actual pressure sensitivity and the modularity of like moving your finger down in the screen and seeing animation move that was kind of cool but I was on those people who didn't use it all that much so yeah I don't use an iPhone so I've no idea what it's like I've heard a lot of people say how you don't mention it that much but even some of the hardest Apple users have admitted that Apple doesn't do a good job at marketing it so a lot of people just don't even know as a thing so I'm sure most people won't even know that it's gone yeah it was up to developers to like build in really cool features for it when that didn't really happen much then it didn't become a huge deal to kill it was there anything you feel like Apple should have announced or anything you feel like was missing from the event well I'm expecting we're gonna have another event in October I think we're gonna have another fall event so the only thing I really feel was missing was little things like you know the reverse wireless charging not being in the iPhone maybe like a new AirPods update but like I'm not really shocked at most of the things that we didn't see um like I said I got a pretty tame event this one I think they they showed exactly what most normal people would expect the problem is is we live on Twitter where leaks get posted all over the place and then people run with the smallest little rumor make entire videos about it and then everyone gets hyped about everything have you seen the Pixel 4 rumor from today not rumor leak the last one I saw was the like pink or orange colors and I was like a four second video yeah yeah there is a six minute full hands-on video like produced like by a host who's like talking about and holding up the camera like he's reviewing it it's not English so I can't tell what he's saying but the fact that this is all like very close to the apple event is really funny um yeah you can basically just see everything you want about the Pixel 4 now except the price except the price and the sample photos oh someone said any thoughts about the lack of 5g in the new iPhone I think we touched on that a little bit before like we're seeing all these companies they wanted to be the first of 5g like actually early on this year the amount of rumored like 5g phones was out of this world I think every android phone company was thinking about doing it and we're like okay cool like everyone wants to raise the 5g and then I think we're later in the year and it really feels no closer to 5g being like a real thing like yeah we went to Rhode Island and saw it but that was obviously just testing it doesn't feel like a giant missing feature yet kind of the same way when 4g first rolled out it was kind of like an extra little bonus I think it's a possibility in next year's iPhone maybe in the next two years we'll have a 5g like you know common thing in new phones but at the moment I'm not shocked there's no 5g in my phone yeah I think even if it comes into the 2020 iPhone it's barely gonna be used I can't see 5g rolling out that well I mean maybe some company will surprise me or maybe more companies will take the AT&C route and just throw throw an e at the end of 5g and then people are gonna be spending 300 more dollars so they can use the exact same dude did you get the iPhone 12 pro max 5ge XDR oh someone said can you explain the u1 chip a little more uh have you seen any of this this is like the what this they didn't talk about this I guess at all on stage it was one of those like background things where they had a bunch of extra new features okay so there's a new dedicated chip in the iPhone called the u1 chip so they had the w1 which does a lot of bluetooth stuff with headphones they have the bionic the u1 chip is for spatial recognition and direction relatively between other u1 enabled devices okay which means basically if you have a an iPhone 11 over there and I have an iPhone 11 over here oh okay and I want to airdrop you something and there's 50 other people in sotel with airdrop on and I just point my phone at you it shows up first in my share sheet to share with you so I can like beam files at you by like pointing my phone at you which had all sorts of other funny like meme acquis like I just think of like being like on a plane and just that's exactly the people at that one point where you're sitting on the plane the the 4g sucks so you can't like pull a red air or anything so you're just trying to find something to do why you're sitting on the tarmac like why not just send a bunch of random memes to start beaming people you look like you'd enjoy this certain type of meme beaming at you yeah that's uh the u1 chip I don't think there's any other crazy use cases I really thought about maybe like one thing people were talking about was that like tile type subscription thing that yeah it was rumored I didn't I haven't looked that much into it I've heard a bunch about it possibly also it might be applied to bluetooth so I can think of I can imagine a world where you have like apple chips with u1 or sorry apple headphones with u1 chip in them so if there's 70 other headphones on the plane and you just like point them at your headphones you're I mean it's like NFC it's an exact thing but uh trying to pair with bluetooth faster oh yeah no I thought that was interesting you can you can beam files at people like a wizard that's fun anyway that's pretty much it thank you thank you for joining us thank you for tuning in for this random hotel room episode 24 hours after an apple event I feel like it was a lot of fun this was a lot of fun I feel like we'll probably do some more of these event specific ones when fun stuff just happens or comes up there will be a normal podcast episode next week back in our normal every two week cadence but uh that's been it for episode four thank you everyone for tuning in waveform is produced in conjunction with studio 71 and our intro outro music is created by Cameron Barlow