April 20, 2026 - Hour 2

Segment 1: The Pope, The President and the Catholic divideWhile en route from Cameroon to Angola this weekend, Pope Leo said that an extended debate with President Trump is “not in my interest at all.” President Trump for his part recently said that he has “nothing against the pope.” We talk more about this with Doug Keck.Segment 2: A Dialogue between Mother Angelica and Adolf HitlerToday is the birthday of two very different figures who shaped the 20th century in very different ways – Mother Angelica, and Adolf Hitler. Marcus imagines a conversation between the two of them as they share their thoughts on life and death.Segment 3: The Sufferings of the Holy Family (2 segments)We often imagine the Holy Family as beyond reach — too holy, too peaceful, too perfect to relate to our own messy, wounded families. But when we look closely through the light of Scripture, a startling truth emerges: the lives of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph were marked by all-too-common hardship, misunderstanding, loss, danger, and suffering caused by the sins of others. And yet it was precisely there that their love became heroic and their joy unsurpassable. Fr Sebastian Wolfe has more. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit avemariapm.substack.com