EPISODE · Apr 16, 2026 · 1H 18M
Are Dark Elves GOOD now in Warhammer the Old World!? | Renegades Reveal | Square Based Show
from Square Based: A Warhammer Fantasy in the Old World · host Square Based Podcast
In this episode of The Square Based Show, Rob and Val dive deep into the first major DRAFT update for the Renegade Army Lists—starting with the Dark Elves. This isn't just a minor tweak; it’s a "2.0" overhaul designed to bring the Legacy Dark Elf list up to par with the Core factions in Warhammer: The Old World. Val discusses his process of "vibing" with the faction, addressing community feedback, and his quest to restore the "hateful" identity of the Druchii while respecting the power level of the current edition. From the return of iconic spells to points adjustments for the War Hydra and Cold One Knights, we break down every magenta-highlighted change in the new document. *Read the DRAFT Renegade Dark Elves here:* https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DxVMfxgaDnemxkmqxatHZwGNv0i1rRoekbsmVKgmRmA/edit?usp=sharing *Share your Feedback here (or in the comments below)* https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeVv-GMpx67sRR1v8aetdHUtwt77WS4lfv_-D5GhNrCNVutbQ/viewform Chapters: 0:00 - Intro & The "Tough Look" 1:11 - What is Renegade 2.0? 2:41 - The State of Dark Elves 4:35 - Rumors & The "Old World" Future 6:40 - Design Philosophy: Power vs. Flavor 8:14 - The Lore of Naggaroth & Copyrights 11:03 - Problem Children: Shrines & Sisters 12:42 - How to Read the New Document 16:28 - Grand Army Composition Tweak 18:51 - Special Rules: Hatred & Hektari’s Blessing 24:30 - Magic Items 28:06 - Magic: The Lore of Naggaroth 31:44 - Characters: Sorceresses & Beastmasters 33:14 - Death Hags & Khaine’s Assassins 36:51 - Mounts & The Cold One Problem 38:51 - Core Units: Darkshards & Corsairs 41:48 - Elite Infantry: Black Guard & Executioners 45:49 - Shades & Witch Elves 51:48 - The Sisters of Slaughter Debate 59:22 - Doomfire Warlocks: The "Necessary" Nerve 1:02:42 - The Cauldron of Blood 1:05:22 - Monsters: The War Hydra & Kharibdyss 1:10:16 - Closing Thoughts & Audience Questions MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO: ► *Rob's Old World EVENTS in Nottingham!* https://tsnarena.com/events/category/the-old-world/ ► *Tickets for Canhammer Teams in Ottawa May 2 and 3* https://www.ccbb.ca/tickets ► Support us on *PATREON* and join us on Discord: https://www.patreon.com/Squarebased *OLD WORLD RESOURCES* ► *Square Based Comp AND Tournament Packs* https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world/square-based-comp/ ► *The Square Based FAQ:* https://www.squarebased.com/faqs ► *The Renegade Legacy Pack:* https://www.squarebased.com/ ► *Our 500pt Foray Pack:* https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world-500-point-foray/ ► *Old World Army Builder:* https://old-world-builder.com/ ► *Old World Rules Wiki:* https://tow.whfb.app/ ► *Old World Rankings (Past and Upcoming Old World Events:* https://oldworldrankings.com/ *MERCH* https://thehonestwargamer.com/product-category/square-based/ Youtube Music Playlist for Audio Only: https://tinyurl.com/SB-YouTube-Music-Playlist Podcast on all other Platforms: https://squarebasedpodcast.podbean.com/ #squarebased #warhammertheoldworld #warhammerfantasy
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In this episode of The Square Based Show, Rob and Val dive deep into the first major DRAFT update for the Renegade Army Lists—starting with the Dark Elves. This isn't just a minor tweak; it’s a "2.0" overhaul designed to bring the Legacy Dark Elf list up to par with the Core factions in Warhammer: The Old World. Val discusses his process of "vibing" with the faction, addressing community feedback, and his quest to restore the "hateful" identity of the Druchii while respecting the power level of the current edition. From the return of iconic spells to points adjustments for the War Hydra and Cold One Knights, we break down every magenta-highlighted change in the new document. *Read the DRAFT Renegade Dark Elves here:* https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DxVMfxgaDnemxkmqxatHZwGNv0i1rRoekbsmVKgmRmA/edit?usp=sharing *Share your Feedback here (or in the comments below)*https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeVv-GMpx67sRR1v8aetdHUtwt77WS4lfv_-D5GhNrCNVutbQ/viewform Chapters: 0:00 - Intro & The "Tough Look"1:11 - What is Renegade 2.0?2:41 - The State of Dark Elves4:35 - Rumors & The "Old World" Future6:40 - Design Philosophy: Power vs. Flavor8:14 - The Lore of Naggaroth & Copyrights11:03 - Problem Children: Shrines & Sisters12:42 - How to Read the New Document16:28 - Grand Army Composition Tweak18:51 - Special Rules: Hatred & Hektari’s Blessing24:30 - Magic Items 28:06 - Magic: The Lore of Naggaroth31:44 - Characters: Sorceresses & Beastmasters33:14 - Death Hags & Khaine’s Assassins36:51 - Mounts & The Cold One Problem38:51 - Core Units: Darkshards & Corsairs41:48 - Elite Infantry: Black Guard & Executioners45:49 - Shades & Witch Elves51:48 - The Sisters of Slaughter Debate59:22 - Doomfire Warlocks: The "Necessary" Nerve1:02:42 - The Cauldron of Blood1:05:22 - Monsters: The War Hydra & Kharibdyss1:10:16 - Closing Thoughts & Audience Questions MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO: ► *Rob's Old World EVENTS in Nottingham!* https://tsnarena.com/events/category/the-old-world/ ► *Tickets for Canhammer Teams in Ottawa May 2 and 3* https://www.ccbb.ca/tickets ► Support us on *PATREON* and join us on Discord: https://www.patreon.com/Squarebased *OLD WORLD RESOURCES* ► *Square Based Comp AND Tournament Packs* https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world/square-based-comp/ ► *The Square Based FAQ:* https://www.squarebased.com/faqs ► *The Renegade Legacy Pack:* https://www.squarebased.com/ ► *Our 500pt Foray Pack:* https://thehonestwargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world-500-point-foray/ ► *Old World Army Builder:* https://old-world-builder.com/ ► *Old World Rules Wiki:* https://tow.whfb.app/ ► *Old World Rankings (Past and Upcoming Old World Events:* https://oldworldrankings.com/*MERCH* https://thehonestwargamer.com/product-category/square-based/ Youtube Music Playlist for Audio Only: https://tinyurl.com/SB-YouTube-Music-Playlist Podcast on all other Platforms: https://squarebasedpodcast.podbean.com/ #squarebased #warhammertheoldworld #warhammerfantasy
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