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EPISODE · May 22, 2026 · 48 MIN

Are people moving from seats to service? (Part 2)

from The Ministry Edge Podcast

The most dangerous person in your congregation isn't someone who left. It's someone who stayed and stopped growing. They're comfortable, they're invisible, and there are more of them than you think.In this episode, Chad and Jason pick up where Part 1 left off and tackle one of the most overlooked problems in church health. Not getting people in the door, but getting the people already in the seats to actually engage.In this episode, you'll hear:Why churches often create spectators without realizing it, and what it's quietly costing youWhy people don't step up, and why the answer is rarely lazinessThe difference between a stage announcement and a personal ask, and why one almost never worksHow to design on-ramps that feel like an invitation, not a contractWhat it looks like to build a culture where participation is the norm, not the exceptionThe challenge at the end of this episode is simple but uncomfortable. We hope you will try it anyway.This is Part 2 of a 2-part conversation. If something resonated, we'd love to keep that conversation going. Visit keenly.org to connect with the Keenly team.

The most dangerous person in your congregation isn't someone who left. It's someone who stayed and stopped growing. They're comfortable, they're invisible, and there are more of them than you think. In this episode, Chad and Jason pick up where Part 1 left off and tackle one of the most overlooked problems in church health. Not getting people in the door, but getting the people already in the seats to actually engage. In this episode, you'll hear: Why churches often create spectators with...

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