EPISODE · Oct 6, 2025 · 26 MIN
Are Phishing Simulations Still Worth It?
from Shared Security Podcast · host Tom Eston, Scott Wright
Phishing simulations have been a cornerstone of security awareness training for years. But do they actually change user behavior, or are they just creating frustration and fatigue? In this episode, Tom Eston and Scott Wright (CEO of ClickArmor) debate whether simulated phishing attacks are still valuable in 2025. We cover the benefits, challenges, and how phishing programs might evolve — or even be replaced — in the future.
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Phishing simulations have been a cornerstone of security awareness training for years. But do they actually change user behavior, or are they just creating frustration and fatigue? In this episode, Tom Eston and Scott Wright (CEO of ClickArmor) debate whether simulated phishing attacks are still valuable in 2025. We cover the benefits, challenges, and how phishing programs might evolve — or even be replaced — in the future.
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