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I'm just mad again, we just watch very questionable coaching. But we're glad you guys are here. We're glad you guys are here. What is on this Tuesday night?

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You can pull up the notes here. All right. This is the place where sports have been in school. I mean, I was going to be in school.

We're glad to have you guys with us this Tuesday, March 26. A little bit rainy. A little bit rainy. I actually got my walk in right before the downpour, but we have a lot to discuss tonight.

Some things have been going on. We got March Madness taking place in addition to the madness in the back with all the people yelling. The halt's got a 30 point. It's madness.

It's madness. It's madness all around. So anyway, we want to get started. Make sure you guys hit the like button and subscribe button and leave a comment.

It's good to see you back, Rob. Rob somehow, some way, I don't know what happened with Rob got banned. Rob got sick of it. Yeah.

He hit me up on Discord to check because I was like, where's Rob? He was like, what's going on? So he was and then Tracy G's old account was also banned. So I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. The system did it.

Hey, Rob, you better watch what you're saying. Rob, you're wild. You know what he's doing? It's awful.

It's just seeing the dungeon down there. You got it. So yeah, but Canadian cuss words. Yeah, he's back.

But he's back with us. Speaking of cuss words, it was a lot. It was a lot of cursing. I would imagine that two plays.

Last night in the Celtics and Hawks game, Atlanta Hawks complete the biggest comeback in their franchise history over the NBA leading Boston Celtics 30 points. Well, it almost seems like since we started to show them some love, they've failed to live up to the height and the expectations. We do have a Boston Boston self-defend in the back, one of the blow ticks when they used to be here. But so you may have something to say.

You already tried to call me off with the title, but I got to ask, you know, are the self tits frost? What does it say about the Boston Celtics being a big dawds of ease to let something like that happen when you got Jason Patele? Like, how does that happen? I'm referring to Mr.

NBA. It happens. And this is not the first time that they lost a big point lead this season. I want to say a couple of weeks ago, they were up, I think it was against Cleveland and they lost that game as well.

It happens, you know, sometimes you take your foot off the gas, you know what I'm saying? But like I've been saying, all season when it comes to the Celtics, Jason Tatum, their championship aspirations, does it mean that they're not a championship contender? It doesn't mean that they're not a championship contender. It's a bad loss.

It happens to some of the best teams out there. My thing is this, and I'm standing on this, can Jason Tatum overcome the mental hurdles that the great ones do when the time comes to be great? That is my only question. This is the regular season, bro.

Like they see the light at the end of the tunnel, the playoff picture starting to play out. They know that they don't have to be in no playing. They're going to be in one of the top seeds. They are ready for the playoffs.

Now I'm not saying that this proves that they're ready for the playoffs by no means necessary. But at the end of the day, this, I don't really care about this. We know what the Boston Celtics are at their best. We've seen them at their best.

This again happens to some of the best teams because they start to play with their food, you know what I'm saying? And that sort of kind of what happens. I watch the whole game so I can't give you like in depth analysis. But it is what it is.

Like I'm not worried about this. I want to see the matchups. I want to see Jason Tatum, how he's going into these games and playoff games. And what is he doing?

Is he dominant? Is he being assertive? And if those are the two things that consistently is happening in the playoffs, then I think that they have a chance. But if this guy will turn under the bright lights again, I don't care how good Janine Brown plays.

I don't care what KP does. I don't care what Drew Holliday does. They don't go anywhere. Right.

You need it for close moments. The Bulls 72 and 10 team lost to like Washington, some crazy team that year. Well, something with so that really, you know, regular season losses like you say happened and sometimes you take your foot off the gas and let things like this happen. But you're right.

We have to see what happens when the lights are on with the lights as writers can be. You got to target on your back at that point and it's time for Jason Tatum to step up and become that superstar that we really think he is and that he's called out to be. And it's time to take over this thing. Quick question.

You don't think he's a superstar because you know, I don't know if y'all watch the LeBron and JJ Reddy podcast on they talked about it. Like Tatum's been a four conference finals and he's barely 25. Like that's a lot. You know, say he talked about.

LeBron won the championship first time at 28, Jordan wanted at 28, Kobe was 27, 28. You know, said Joker was 28. So all of these great like he still has time, but he's already been a four conference finals. Now that being said, I still think that, you know, I'm not shooting him bail because the best ones get better in the playoffs.

Correct. And but he's still young. Correct. And that's why I said he's on the cusp.

But the reason for me is we talk about these finals, I mean, these appearances and the things that he's done, but you can't mention that without mentioning Jalen Brown and in saying that the difference between Jalen Brown and say it's got a peep and some of these other secondary players. That's times when Jalen Brown is the Batman and Tatum has to be Robin. It's like he's going back and forth. So unless both of Mars not stop it.

It is. It's not. Tatum is the man. Like everybody would say that I feel like for Boston, but to what you said, it's strange that he's been to that many conference finals and yet you still have to wonder is he that dude there is still something missing.

I will agree with both of y'all there. I do think that he's Batman. I just don't know if Batman can win a championship. He's Batman and the sister.

He is the better player, but there's times when Tatum plays better. I mean, when our brown plays shows up in the big moments more than he does. I agree with you. That's what I'm talking about.

True. I think there's no scenario when they're going to win a championship with Jalen Brown be considered as a bit of a threat. There's no scenario in this playoff one and the J.A.L.M. Brown should be like, oh, I scored 30 and Tatum at 18.

All right. I agree with you. I think there's still a lot to digest when you say well Jason Tatum got the best team in the East and I expect him to win a championship. Even from everything that I've seen from the Celtics throughout the season, they lead about 10 games.

KP brought what he brought to the Celtics. I still don't feel confident even with Jason Tatum going to four conference finals going to NBA finals having the most experience in the East. I still don't feel confident in picking the Celtics. You know why?

Because here's the thing right. I'm actually watching a lot of these basketball player podcasts and stuff like that. And one of the things that I always talk about, especially when it comes to playoff basketball is moments and how many Jason Tatum moments do we have? Yeah, when he was super young, he dumped on Brown.

You know what I'm saying? But that is a singular thing. You know what I'm saying? Norris Cole was recently on the Ghibitor Venus podcast and he was talking about that Game Six against the Celtics and he was saying, hey, you know, Brian is a Jovial guy.

You know, he's always laughing, smiling, whatever before, you know, any game, play off, whatever, whatever. And he said against that game six, he said that man, he ain't talking nobody stone cold face. And we saw in my opinion, that is the best game LeBron has ever played. Now some of those games and the comeback against Golden State, those ranked second, third, fourth, but the best singular game that LeBron has ever played was at Game Six against the Celtics, where he had 45, 10 and like five or something like that, you know what I'm saying?

And we saw from get go, he was playing at an otherworldly level. He wasn't going to lose. And I have yet to see with all of these conference championships that Jason Tatum has been on, a game that he has raised his level to that level. And I think that whenever you win a championship and you have the onus of being the best player in the team, there are multiple times in multiple series throughout the playoff stretch.

That is required of you. And to me, Jason Tatum has yet to have that moment. Now, does he have similar moments here and there that we can pinpoint? Of course, because he is a great player.

But the greatest players have stretches a whole game, a whole series. Like we saw what they call the bronto, the bronto, because every time he saw the Toronto Raptors regardless of his regular season or playoffs, bro, y'all getting the hell up out of here. And they had two all stars, two legit, all stars. The mother was just one of the most underrated all stars of that era.

Get out of here, bro. He looked pedestrian and if you look at the Martin Rosen's numbers, I'm always bothered. It was, but LeBron made him look miniscule. And that is the level that Jason Tatum this season.

There's no, there's no more rope. There's no more rope. You've been there. You have the experience.

We can't say that you're too young. Yeah, you're 25, but break you've been a forum. You got experience now. Let me ask you all this.

Do you have that same mistrust for a Deera Fox? Do you have it for a? Yeah, I'm in there. What's my name and name in Phoenix?

No, book it been in the finals. You have the same mistrust trust that you have. I need a book. You have the mistrust.

Because what I'm saying is, Tatum, I don't know, but is that pretty much everybody in their class, Fox, Booker, Tatum, who else is in that class? So the reason why I say no for book, because we saw book elevate. You feel like he could put a team on his back and win a championship? I don't know about winning a championship, but he definitely won a series and we saw him do that.

What the team can do that? I'm wondering, are you sure? Have you seen that? A series?

What series have you said that he won? I don't know if you've done it yet, but I don't know if you've done it yet. I feel confident enough in him and what the Celtics have done. He can win a series this year.

I think he's not enough to do it, but I'm just saying, but what the series was that? He was shooting like 50, 40, average of like 40 points. It was crazy. I don't remember.

I know what you're talking about. What's wrong? You didn't close those series. He was shooting like that, but he wasn't closing.

Who closed them? Katie? No, CP. True.

What are you talking about? I thought he was there. I thought he was there. No, I thought he was there.

No, this past season, it was a series where he just went over. They lost the dimmer. But he hadn't closed them. What's the one before?

Who did they played before Denver? They ran through whoever they had. Yeah. That was the book.

Okay. Never seen the West. Anthony Els. Do you trust him in this play-off?

What do you trust? I've seen more of mental toughness with Anthony Els. And he's not even been. No, no, no, no.

I understand. But here's the thing though. You still, for me, personally, for me, 24-24, I got to see it in the playoffs. Now here's the thing.

I'm giving him bail because of what I've seen throughout his entire career. And I told y'all at the before the season, I saw that he was, say, basketball. He was that one singular guy with that dog mentality on that squad. Don't trust Els to win a series.

I do trust Els to win a series. I don't know if he's ready to take that jump to that superstar. Does he have everything in the pot of gumbo? Yes.

Can he make it taste good when the time is right? When all of the celebrity chefs are in the kitchen? Is that going to be his best pop? I don't know because he hadn't done it before.

I like to go off of history and experience. And he just hasn't done it yet. But I would personally rather have Anthony Els over Jason Taylor. I would.

You would rather have Jason Taylor over Anthony Els. Yeah. I mean, I can't give it to Anthony. Once it gets over that hump, then we can talk about it.

But until we sit in play, we didn't see anything yet, pretty much other than these losses. It ain't that ain't been as far. But at the same time, we hadn't seen him carry a team to a victory yet at all. So I give Tatum the experience factor.

Therefore, I'll put Tatum still above 100% in that. And I know I'm kind of a little deviated from the topic at hand. But we talked about a couple of weeks ago, these number one season, Shutsomeo was on the same wavelength in terms of OKC, Minnesota. If I was in my way, then top two C's broke because the Golden States of the world, the LA Lakers of the world, they would not those teams off.

They don't have enough experience to deal with those bottom teams, all of that experience. They don't have it. I wouldn't want to be one of the top two C's looking at Golden State and the Lakers. Well, I mean, if you're the best team that happened the best team all year long, you should take care of business.

Yeah, yeah, you should take care of business. Ken, how often do we see a young two young teams lead their conference like that? It's crazy that you trust a 40-year-old LeBron, a 25-year-old Jason type. Oh, 100%.

But the Librand in a nice name? I don't want to talk before because I'm the same way, but it's great to have we looking at the newer generation and wondering can they win series, can they win play off? Excuse me, can they win championships? But we'll look at a Steph Curry in whatever year he in, or LeBron in whatever year he in and be like, oh, y'all teams have been mediocre all season.

Right. But when we go to the playoffs, I trust that y'all might win this from an eight, nine or a 10 seed versus Jason Taiton who's a one seed and we question whether he can even make it to the finals. Yeah, I was going to say you have to because these guys, man, those veterans, they really know how to pace themselves from the game. They know how to play a complete series.

They don't play game by game, quarter by quarter series by series. Close out game. Yeah, it's very important. What are these young dudes who have to change?

Well, here's the thing that happened. Look at that. Like they're going to win one year. We're going to be okay.

So here's the thing, right? Like we have young dudes, we have players of this era and then we got the vets, right? Players of this era that aren't necessarily over. They ain't young.

Somebody like Joker's 28. You know what I'm saying? He's a player of this era. He's only like three, four years older than Taiton.

Obviously he's been through the paces. He knows what it is. Like I 100% trust though. You know what I'm saying?

Like there's other guys that are younger than the old while events that I trust is just that these youngins, this is their first opportunity to like really put their best foot forward. And you know, again, like I always say, look at the average age of a champion in the NBA. It's never young. It's about 28.

You know what I'm saying? It's 28 plus. It's 28 plus. So that being said, that's why I can't trust it.

Okay, it's as good as Shai is, as good as Chet has been, as good as all of them other players that Sam Preston has drafted and how they're playing. It's I can't trust them. It's like young Metro. I can't trust you.

I can't trust you. You like that kid? I do. I do.

I give him that. I give him that. It is somewhat concerning. You know, at some point, you see if a 20, if a 30 point league gets down to 10, you know, that guy or somebody got to get on it, you know, take control and put this thing back.

Put the game back away. So, so yeah, I mean, but it could be in the season for tea. Like we're ready to get to the playoffs. We're bored, you know, but I don't know.

I know that my first thought when I saw that was like, Oh, yeah, the same himself as they already, you know what? But I say, I said, when he came out here, it was like they didn't really run sets. It was just a bunch of dribbling one on one. So, you know, he's a fan.

So he watched the game. So that's the insight that he was able to give. But it is concerning. But he's a match up though.

First round, they should be able to handle business. And they have experience. You can't knock the experience that all of them have taken around. Well, I don't know.

They just haven't won the title yet. That's all it really comes down to. They've been there. Like that says a lot.

So we have to get them credit for that. They just never won. OK, so when the Bulls were playing the bad boys or even the Pistons, when they were trying to beat the Celtics, did it look like that they were eventually going to beat them or did where you skipped? They did.

OK, so it's the same thing with people. Yeah. Yeah, it's just like for what I remember, like they used to work out on the Jordan. We saw that he had all the skills in the world, the talent and everything else.

But he didn't know how to win in game. Well, boys, you got to trust teammates. That's what we started with. So we're saying we're still looking for that moment where we see table.

We'll be like, OK, he's figured it out. Right. I still don't. I don't think he's figured it out.

Nobody. I don't think he's figured it out. But when he does, we'll see it. Similar how we thought about Yannes for a while.

The same thing. Just getting over the hump and cracking that code. You know, the talent is there. It's not a question of his talent.

It's just the experience to lead a team to the ultimate victories. That's what we're waiting on to do. The proof is in the pudding. You know what I'm saying?

Like I always use this example. LeBron last year got swept in the West of Conference Finals to Denver, the eventual champions. But in that last game, you had a 40 point triple double. That's how you go out to mean the people like question is Joellen B.

And those close out games in the biggest games. What are you doing? Are you elevating your game or are you pedestrian? They say, I mean, those games has been pedestrian to me.

The best players elevate, even if you're going to lose you, elevate. And it's it can't be on you. You know what I'm saying? Like, Tyler was talking about when they were coming back against the Warriors, you know, and he told LeBron.

You got to be better. He said, I don't want to hear all that. That shit. I know you I know you're going to ask where you are.

I know I need more. I need more. It's not about just read by this point. I need more.

You're fucking LeBron James. So that's how you get the block. That's how you get the three points. That's why I question how to tell you, though.

Like, is that something where you go look at it and be like, OK, that's the championship. That's a thoroughbred. But I don't know it. But that's what that's what separates you could be a superstar without winning a championship.

But that's what separates champions from non champions. Those guys that in those moments elevate to a level that true can't nobody because we saw what stuff. Here's a superstar. He's a champion.

Exactly. He's a superstar. Like no questions asked. He's a superstar.

But are you a champion? You know, because that's the ultimate. There's less champions than there are superstars. Can you call somebody that before they win one?

No, a champion? No, got to win it. Like I'm looking at Luke and be like, yeah, chap. No, he's a superstar.

He's a superstar. He's not a champion. You got to win. You got to win.

Got to win. Got to win. Got to win. The same that me, Neil, song.

I think the thing is, let's watch it from here. You know, that could be a wake up call. Like, all right, guys, you know what? Let's lock in.

Let's get ready for this run. We need to go on and and, you know, see what they do from here. You know, you lose 30 point game. You should get back to demolishing people.

And that's what I'll be curious to see. How many months are in a pregnancy? How many months are in a pregnancy? Not much.

Not much. Yeah. Well, seems like the Rockets and Jalen Green. Hey, it's a great thing.

We're in their last 10 games. One, nine out of nine out of 10. Hey, man, I'm about to be a daddy, but ever. Hey, he on the whole he elevated his game.

Yes, better. He has to run because that dude is on the way. A couple of years. Yeah, a couple of them.

I was saying he got three words on the street. Yeah, man. Yeah. So the three and talking broke.

Yeah, the surgeon rockets, 91 over the last 10 games fighting for a play in spot. Now, remember, they started off hot to start the season. Then they just cooled off. So should the Lakers and Warriors be worried about making the playoffs play and turning and what about a Doka?

Is the Doka topic coaching elite today? Yes, he definitely is. We knew that. Yeah, he was already that.

It's just a matter of getting his young young guns. When did you know that? The Celtics. Yeah, it was Celtics.

You said they wanted to go nowhere. And then coming to the Rockets, y'all thought he would be a. We knew he was a top coach. The coach.

Yeah, that wasn't the issue. The issue was that you see, you know, team was young. But if you want somebody to come in and lead your team, he's a time cat. Now you want to have to keep your don't do the ground around your life.

Why? Why? Why? Why can't it be worth it?

But the man can coach and we know that for a fact and he got the talent. And they brought in the Wiley veterans, which is brilliant on their part. You brought in enforcer and Dylan Brooks. You brought in Fred Van Fleet, who was a solid point guard and forces a stretch.

Well, well, you need to somebody. You need to somebody. You need to be a tag of this. Yeah, you need to tell us that you brought in a sore version of Draymond.

Yes, a sore time is a is a is a becoming youngster. You got to go who is trying to be like that. No, he's not. But he's not here.

I think so. And oh, wow, that hurts. That's tough. It did hurt him.

Smith, do you know he's playing? He's balling too. So you got you know, you got talent all over the court on that team. So it was a single hurts worse than anything else.

No, that's just load him down. But other than that, if he was still playing, I think it's any good return. I'm playing. Okay.

March, yeah. Yeah. Yes, I was a good player. Yeah.

It's a really good win. They got, they got players at every level. And I got the bench playing well, too. So you got every aspect of it.

The Lakers should be more worried and go in the state. I think going to state is starting to settle in a little bit. Then it's coming together, Clay is getting the shot back a little bit. He's like, the nurses are playing better than the wars right now.

Right now, they're three games, huh? The Lakers are three games just just the way they look though. If you look at the Lakers look like we as though, as we look like lost in the brothers have any ankle issues. The Lakers of three games, the Rockets are tied with the Warriors for the plate and last play as well.

I still worry more about the Lakers in the Rock. I mean, that's why I mean, that's why that's literally insane. No, just keep watching. They died right now, Sheldon.

It's no matter. Why do you say that? Because to me, I like the addition of Denwoody, especially off the bench. He's giving them that spark.

The Angela Russell has definitely picked up his game over the last quarter of the season. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not as worried about them because they're starting to peak right when we want them to peak, even though LeBron, that nigga 40. LeBron is 40.

Like he got, I'm not worried about that because we know when it's, if he got to take off a game or two to get right for him to be right for him, we know that he's going to be right. We ain't got no questions. Questions is what AD and the rest of them. But the rest of them look like they're starting to understand what it is that they need to do to win games.

So that's, that's why I slightly disagree with you. See when I watch them, I see something different. At the time when I see them, even like tonight, for example, they just, they don't, LeBron is out tonight. So we got to come tonight, but I'm just saying at times they look like there's something missing and it's times when they stand around watching, when they should be playing.

So we can't expect them to just carry them on his back. It's whole. Right now I can say in the last 10 games, the Lakers are 64 and the Warriors are 46. So I don't know what that is.

And on the three-game win streak, which is about to be over because they lose the night. Warriors about to break their two games losing streak tonight. But I think he'd have some players out. So yeah, but a couple of other guys see like, like I don't disagree with you.

What's missing is this. And this is, it's not fair, but it just is what it is. How can you ask a 40 year old to be the best player on the team? And that's what's missing on that team.

It's like AD where yet we don't see you. We don't trust him. We, he needs to be the LeBron can no longer be the best player on the team. He's 40 fucking years old.

There's, we have, I said a couple of joints in our IG chat where every player combined in their 20, 21st season, I think it was 1,200 in some of my games. And all these minutes and LeBron with obviously less minutes because there's only one person has, I've scored every single player that has played a year, 21. Together combined. So the level of expectation needs to finally be low and like it should have been lower five years ago, but it is what it is.

The thing that you're talking about, and I don't disagree with I watch them, it's just like, y'all are good only because LeBron is still good. You know what I'm saying? Where is the dynamicness of the team? Like D-Lo is, you know, borderline.

Then we know what he is. A-D is that guy. That's the person that we're looking at. It's like, you're supposed to be Batman.

LeBron is still Batman. He should be. Well, I think, and we'll get back to the Rockets is, then we, is a very savvy vet. He can play, but the coach has been utilizing him in that way.

It's been really awful. It's like, what are you doing? But nevertheless, we'll see. I mean, we'll see where that goes, but I got to give the Rockets credit, bro.

Like to go on this win street to put yourself in a situation to make the playoffs. I mean, you know, you get, you give me some shot to beat one of these lowly teams, you know, to get in because what? But the player, you just got to win that one game. You guaranteed a spot.

So it'll be interesting to see how this goes down. So I don't know. You got to win one game or two games. It depends on where you are.

So like if you're number seven and you win your game, you're locking that seven. So the Mavericks are probably wishing for the Rockets to get in because it'll be Mavericks Rockets and it'll be Sons Lakers. So having Luka, Katie and LeBron in the playoffs, it's gonna be crazy. It is.

That's the most easy to leave and stuff. But see, TV. That's the same. I mean, I mean, that's a very fluid situation.

You know, anything could change heading into the final stretch. You know, so anyone of those team can go on and win this free. And one of those teams can go on and lose the streak and reverse their fortune. So yeah, it's gonna be the same.

But think about those names that you just mentioned. Right now is Luka Katie, LeBron and Steph. And that's the player. You rather watch the player?

Yeah. You're right. Mavericks Sons Lakers Warriors right now. Yeah.

Mavericks vs Warriors Lakers vs Sons. Yeah. It looks like the man. They are.

What is it? Chir. What is it named? Kyrie getting Kyrie getting his bags.

Kyrie getting his bags. He's better than watching them games. No, you understand. I'm late to watch them.

This game tonight is gonna be a big one because they're tired with Sacramento and 42 and 29. And is it Mavericks games? Yes. A lot is online in that game.

What rank are they at 42 and 29? They're 6 and 7. That's fucking crazy. There's 13 games above 500 and that's like 6, 7 in the West.

Has this been a good year for Sacramento? Oh, man. So the reason why I'm asking that is it's hard to sustain success and your winning team every year. Right.

They had, they caught a lot of people on guard. They had a great year last year. Of course, you expect them to fall back a little bit. It's hard to imagine them being at the top of that team.

But the fact that they're still in the playoff hunt or playoffs, like is this viewed as a set of days able to sustain your game? Because the thing is based off of their talent, they should be a perennial playoff team, which they're starting to prove that they are. But let's be honest, they get better from last year to this year. They didn't.

They stood pat and obviously they have a lot of young players. So you're you getting better. It's just the players on your roster just evolving and growing. And we saw who's the young in, you know, I'm bad with names.

He's like 610, wing player. Kick a word. Yes. He got more even more efficient this year.

We already knew he had the poise from his rookie season. So it wasn't even about shot selection. It was just more about just growth, just natural growth for him. And he's playing even better than what he was last year.

But they didn't get better. They didn't add anything to that team. So for them to have the fall off, you know, from being a top two seed, top three seed to now six, seven, it makes sense. It makes sense.

But it is a successful season because Ken where they are from a talent standpoint, they should be a perennial playoff team. They like to me success for the Kings is being in the playoffs winning a championship. I think they're all star superstar away. They need another guy.

Greatest of bonuses, Ben. I think what 54 straight double doubles or something like that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like he's been super solid.

The area of Fox this year has been a little bit up and down. I love their bench. I love the others. But they don't have that other punch.

And I think they need that other guy if they're going to be a top three seed, if they're going to be a two championship contender. Yeah. It's the same. It feels like the same thing as last year.

Like you said earlier, you know, you're 13 games above 500. So you really don't have a good year. It's just that everybody else is having a good year and a year and a year and a year. So the West is like, they load it.

And that's a dangerous team that a lot of teams don't want to see. So, the bonus can be shrunk in the playoffs because of his lack of shooting. So that's what hurts them more than anything else is his play. He can be pumped too.

Yeah. Great. So, you know, he has a great regular season. One of my favorite players to watch because he patented he's doing different things for the team to win when the playoffs comes and it tightens up.

It does not boil for a player like him who doesn't shoot the ball. Yeah, who do they play where he just was? He was awful last year. It was in the playoffs.

I forgot where was but yeah, he's going to say what's it going to say? I can't remember, bro. It was it was pretty bad. It was like he wasn't doing anything.

Anyway, uh, I just got hurt. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I can not remember but who was it?

Go to say. Yeah. Fox heard his ankle. Yeah.

That's why they lost because Fox was killing. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, well, it is March.

Um, so let's turn our attention to March Madness, which started last week. Yes, sir. Um, there has not there haven't been a lot of upsets. Who do you guys expect to make it to the final four in the men's and then I go to the women's in the set?

I definitely expect you can't be there. You call it as a dominant team. Uh, probably well, not probably there are the number one overall seed in the men's, uh, bracket side and I expect them to be there for sure. I think Carolina's going to make it not just because they have depth experience in their body.

Uh, Carolina, your favorite city? Yes. No, no, no sir. It's Carolina.

It's Carolina. Ain't that that little man? No, that's Atlanta. That's Atlanta.

That's Atlanta. That's Atlanta. That's Atlanta. That's Atlanta.

That's Atlanta. That's Atlanta. Atlanta. Atlanta, Atlanta.

That's Atlanta. That's Atlanta. That's Atlanta. It looks like it leads.

So I had all the colours but then somebody is saying you can't you Rob said you look like Alabama Chris is from Tada. That's obviously that's probably not Rob. I used to work at leads. So at every Atlanta you could have ever so that's what they made.

I think they fooled you on that one. No, I sold them. I sold them. So I'll put them out.

I sell them in the, Alabama A is a little bit different. I'll show you the difference in the two. I got a picture one. But anyway, I'm a Carolina guys, but Carolina is deep and they, um, they've really been playing well in the playoffs and I mean, in the tournament and they know how to find off runs.

And they got every aspect of the game, you know, they have the height, they have the shooting, they have the bench They have the they have everything that you need to win the championship. So those two will definitely make it Houston our question a little bit. They got toughness and experience, but I forgot who they come up Duke is gonna be tough North Carolina State is on a mission and I'm you know, of course I hate to losing the ACC tournament to them But I love the fact that the way they're playing and I love the coach So why don't you why don't you believe in Houston? Because you know, they're the number one defense and all the NCAA Yeah toughness is there It's just shooting they like they don't have the shooting nor the depth that some of the other teams do So, you know a coach who night and then this past game they should have dominated but they didn't do it.

They let Which what you gotta come back on them. So I really don't trust them fully as far as it's going and stuff I do I do like she the point guard point guard is nice super nice. I'm going Gonzaga Houston North Carolina, you come because I go over Purdue. Yes.

I don't trust with you either I don't think that big I don't even know he white whatever this Yeah, he had a 30 points 20 rebounds. I think it's only like a fourth time in G. Oh, yeah, because he's tall He's been open, but I still trust in the people I don't I don't I don't disagree because you know He's a senior and it's like, you know, you seven four you should have been in the league You know, I'm saying so you not you know, you're dominating college, but are you really that great? Right?

So it is what it is, but you know, you can't teach seven four and you can't teach 20 rebounds Yeah, you can't teach shot deterrence. You notice. Yeah, and he bro. It's hard.

It's hard to score in the pain against them So to me, that's why I'm like, I'm over Purdue. I like what I see out of Purdue right now I'm not saying I trust them, but you know, and in another thing with like Houston Yeah, Texas A&M came back, but you got a number one defense actually travels, you know So defense turns into offense. So to me I got in the final four giving you Houston Purdue Yukon This last one, I don't know man and that West I don't I really don't know I don't know who I'm a pick But I'm gonna just go with the number one seat just because they number one so I'm a little Carolina I'm a little Shannon. So I'm a star bracket.

Did you do that? Oh, he had to say Oh, yeah, I did say all one. Yeah, you thought Arizona Arizona's gonna be them Arizona's gonna be who you say you didn't know the last one so you took the number one Arizona definitely gonna be Who will be? Carolina no, I'm saying after they beat Alabama She'll just oh, okay Arizona Arizona.

Good Arizona. That's Arizona. Good. You know, I'm just I'm kind of I'm not sure on that I'm that that was a little bit of plays of Arizona.

He transferred from North Carolina to Arizona Oh, get back. Yes in both these teams both came below was played in here for the pack 12 and his running part And RJ they came in together was player of the year in ACC This is personal and it's for him both of them got away, right? They gotta be out of state. Yeah, and they care a lot of has to be Alabama so the only collision course, but Carolina has been had a chip on their shoulder just like they did against Michigan State That's we they was like the boys talking on the trash.

We had to put them in a place You see what they're talking track. I ain't never seen Carolina do this. That's why I'm like I'm watching them They've got some they got some stuff with them now. So I think they got something for them I think Tennessee over to Tennessee Tennessee's nice.

They have size and they have shooting same thing We talk about shooting defense size. They have all of it. So Tennessee's care team. Yeah point guard Ziggler is amazing I thought they Clemson was wrong.

I thought I was wrong bracket And and ACC as a whole is is Other than the playing game with Virginia ACC is undefeated. So you still got NC State you still got Carolina. You still got Clemson You still got Duke. I like the big guy from NC State.

I would my hometown so you know you make him rock it. You know he amazing Let me ask you like I like his game. Let me ask you out there John Callipari safe. No was safe.

Yes, because of the bio He's full of shit. That's what he is. What do you mean full of shit? Because he came out after he he has gotten beat this year and other years and saying oh the one and done is dead in college basketball Bro, you introduced one and done and made famous and now you're talking about because a team like where is it?

Oakland because they have because they have grown men on their team seniors on their team and what people telling you that you Maybe you should have been mixing in with these when it does all these years now because they have a very veteran experience team Trying to Skate built yourself out of I've been doing what it does and my teams make all the money and I got more people in the NBA than Whatever it may be but you don't win, bro Yeah, you don't win at Kentucky and that's about you the best players you have one of the most legendary programs the best facilities And you do not win all of these right? J right said it best though. J right said These you plan against growing me and some of these other other teams with these veterans that come in at these juniors and seniors These are grown some super seniors in some cases in six year guys and some other cases these are growing me and you're playing against And you don't have time enough to jail by the time you jail is over that would have been my problem if I was athletic director With coach Calparia like bro, why did you see this coming? Why are you telling me this now?

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