Are the Commanders Serious Contenders?

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There's no channel now We did our top 10 players talk about a couple of storylines We're going on in the NBA and made very very super early week one Whatever you want to call it NBA predictions So as we have done for the NFL season, we will do our quarterly check-ins or so And update the list as we move forward, but tonight so when's that first check in and March? I need to know when I need to be traveling Well, let's go ahead and get into the news of the week It was a rough week for some of our esteemed host except for one person in particular, but Nick had a rough and Spike had a rough it was it was a rough week and 12 Kyle is catching it right now as the Yankees Are they still trolling in the game? Yes, it's too wide right now. They got two men on they got it.

They have to they got The whole city turned against judge His after-batt with two men only went out. Yeah, he got for one game set was names I Agree with Rob he and shoulders a pantry span so it was a rough week man, too We know Alright, let's jump into some college football first After beating the Cincinnati Bearcats at home 34 23 the Colorado buff lows are now ranked number 23 In the AP top 25 the question is should should do a Sanders be a Heisman candidate for what he has accomplished this season? Oh Who do I want to start with here? Let's go with people what you're thinking about this row any commentary on this yeah, I got a little bit of commentary Um, I think he should be in the conversation But I don't think he should be nowhere on the top of the list I don't even think I don't even think he should be like one of the four You know the top four but I think you should mention his name because He hasn't really had a signature win, but he's had some really good moments And I think that you know when you're evaluating him, it's more like he's definitely a pro But I don't know if he if you can argue that he's the best player in college football And that's not to diminish anything of his greatness because they wouldn't be where they are right now without him at QB Uh, but I just don't think that he's the greatest college player currently or having the greatest college season Um out of any player right now.

I still think him Ward. Um, it's a little bit higher to him already back out of Boise state I can't think of his name. He says like Jason boy. He's gentsy Yeah, that's in gentsy, you know, so there's other other players that are having definitely better seasons But um, I think that outside looking in you should definitely be mentioned Real quick before I handed off to spike win or jump to units, but tjs underscores.

Look we have done recaps after Colorado wins It's just a couple of times the games have been late And I was We'll get back to him with man at 10 o'clock like when that game got out of hand I went to bed. I'm not getting a lot of y'all and then it was one night I was up and we just didn't do it, but Can and niggas never sleep, bro. Don't let them fool you. No sleep.

No, no, I was I wanted to go to bed. I was hoping kidding because I know I was up. I was hoping kid was safe after that game since today I wasn't ready to talk nobody And then I was in bed bro He was out of town the other games. We didn't get a chance to right because I hit him up about that But like that's why that's why we have the takes now to make up for the fact that we didn't you know address They Colorado But now we're talking about it.

Yeah, so go ahead. Uh, it's like Um, I disagree with people. Um gente travis hunter Uh cam war and she do what centers those are the top four players in college football right now Regardless of the record that Colorado state had excuse me Colorado has We've seen every week to do it come out there and look like a professional quarterback Arguably the best player on the field. He can't help with the defense does what what the coaching does or some of the mishaps that happen They made them lose two games.

He is one of the top four people in the country when it comes to highs and finally stay brain forward to the table He's one of the four. I can't name. I I can't safely name someone else above him. Oh, yeah He deserves an overshoot because it's that person out there who somebody said you just named five I named your name should do or I named hunter and I named gente.

That's four I don't even know Um, so you go ahead. Thank you. Okay. Yeah, good job.

Yeah, just for keeping the line. Um This one's tough, but I will definitely say I think that he is in the conversation for sure He should be uh with travis being right now just so y'all know organ's dillongabial has the highest odds right now Which is surprising to me when the highest he does not have the stats that um should or even hands But right here on the peter. He number one. That's why that's why That's why but they got him as the highest.

All right, even over cam war and um, Cam did struggle in that that floor to stay game a little bit not necessarily struggle But it wasn't as easy as it has been put it that way national gente at off day rest for like only a hundred and yards One touchdown. So, uh, that's gonna hurt him at boys state to be honest because he's not scoring a big test out every game But to answer your question, um This should be travis aboard travis is war running run away He's the best player college football is not even close to be honest if you look at what he does on the football field What he brings on both sides and since y'all out of stat today that he was the offensive and defensive player of the week In the big 12 which is unheard of to to garner the award on both sides of the ball He's the best player in college football, which is what the high smith should stand for what to answer the question should do should be mentioned But he's not in the top four Um should always climbing up the charts for me. Uh, this season I was the first one to say like I don't know what he is, but I'm tired of We've been getting a lot of hyped up QBs over the last few years I don't know what he's saying. Let me say No, all I'm gonna say is that you said that it all depending on his wins and losses Yes, yeah, that's what I'm saying like Those are the main two things I've been questioning for him and dion I was like, I don't think we should give dion any hype any praise if he ain't winning in the sport that he claims He wants to have an impact in you know I'm saying and he's been doing that this year He won more than anyone last year.

He's flirting with um a playoff bid, but definitely they're gonna be in a bowl Well, I'm gonna say definitely but they should be in a bowl game Um And should doors look good with him without travis So to me it's like he's separated himself over this long season of being probably the best QB prospered coming out of his class If he comes out this year because it depends on I legit think he will say another year if the Browns Are picking up one overall or the panthers so um he'll try to go somewhere else But um, I think he I think if he finishes out with ten wins this season He should definitely be a top four candidate in high school Just for the fact that he's taking a program that was dead and literally brought it to life Well him and his dad of course, but he has to win the game so that he ain't on the field So um, he's he's climbing up my charge as far as like recognition, but I guess for right now He probably won't be but he will kick it up. I mean look at jayla millro fell off Um, what's the name of quen yours fell off like there's been a couple people that's good. I was hurt Like yeah, he played in steel for long Yeah, he's like when he came back he didn't keep on going so like there's been some quarterbacks that's fallen off If I feel like if Miami takes one loss that's gonna bring down Ken war because he's been looking shaky some of these games But um, yeah, I think he can kind of will his way onto the list I know his dad put it out there that's I want to have this conversation with y'all His dad's saying like I don't know why no one's looking at my son Reason I'm gonna get should or no I will say this there's increased pressure now because my expectation that like They should be able to win the rest of the games if you if you that Has anything that has nothing to do with should what's handled He's still gonna be a top 10 traffic and he's still gonna be a Heisman finalist regardless I'm just saying it's like for me. He'll finish because right now we're looking at him as it and if we look at him in the NFL right now Right we're looking at everything we're looking at a college.

We're thinking about how does this translate to the NFL So for me and for my judge of qb's because y'all don't the best qb Judgement of the whole panelist me. Maybe she was like right now Assistant culture that regard I need to see I need to see him up with the big dogs. That's the one thing that we haven't really seen me They don't need a lot you know Play the visual college football. What do we say?

They said that when he was at Jackson State now He's playing with the big dogs and he's gonna not be close first of all he had to go He had to be Jackson State we ought to know that he wasn't getting drafted top five state of Jackson State We know that even though I love for them to still be a jack state for the what they were doing for that community But we knew he wasn't gonna get drafted the way he is because if he would say the jack state So that's why you believe but now he's with them like we seen them play a couple teams that's Put what is it built to ass to Colorado now? They've gotten more better over the course of the season I want to see them get into a bowl game of play off Hopefully and see what he can do against actually real competition I've seen what I need to see from him and I'm gonna tell you what I've seen I've seen him fight back through adversity. I've seen him get his head knocked off and keep getting up 80 times Was a quarterback to fold under that type pressure? That's all I need to see if you notice when I talk about quarterback's what I talk about the most is how they respond to those At-verse moments.

That's what I'm talking about when I talk about Zach Wilson What did anything as I talked about I can see the fear in his eyes like I could see him shaking and that's why I didn't believe in Zach I saw in Shadua We didn't believe it was like the game I was the only one saying that I say you but some people say oh look at the pro he made in the trunk all that stuff was being said So it was all in the chat I said who the hell is that Wilson and why is he the top three prospect One of my time I never made it because everybody was looking at the highlights and him warming up And that's what everybody was going off of and I said I watched him play those games and be like you and he's not that my point is You see the fear in eyes which should do her. You don't see that you don't see him. You see him bounce back Yeah, he makes mistakes, but I'm okay with mistakes. I'm just looking for fear and I don't see fear What you looking for cute We talk about Ronnie Jameson When it comes to the Shador like he looks like he has the mechanics to be a good QB I just I kind of sit Between where spike and shell mar and where Ken and Nick are where it's like yeah He can only play who's in front of him the mechanics look right I look at it similar to like an equals draft pick We had this year with a queen on Mitchell where he played a small school in Toledo But the technique was there and we drafted him based on technique We didn't really care because he wasn't facing Justin Jefferson's every week He wasn't facing the Malik neighbors of the world sure but the technique was there and we drafted him and right now It's like we you know were able to hit on that ethic and with Shador Sanders the same thing should be true And all we're talking about is theoretical at this point I think that we have to be on the both sides of that that theoretical could mean yes The technique is there and he should be a good draft pick But theories can be wrong and there's still something to be said about where Nick and Ken are coming from with the competition I don't think that he's facing premier talent, but that doesn't necessarily negate or Affirm the argument that he's gonna be good or bad.

It's just is what it is. So I got to see it man If I had a bet on it I would bet that Shador is gonna be a solid quarterback in the league I can't see top five top 10 guy right now But you know I like I can see that mold of perhaps one or two years He could work his way into what Jordan loved it or whatever, but she's he's a little bit more for me to look at it You know a little bit more competition probably Let me ask you this right because I think the biggest thing that sticks out to me when um, I watched your door play 100% of what shelter said he never looked scared like the moment's never too big for him It's like I you know like he was placed here Like I'm cool with with the atmosphere. I'm cool with everything the biggest thing I take away every time I watch the door play is When he's looking down the barrel and there's a defender going to light him up. It doesn't mess up his throat He is going to throw through the defender.

Right. Is he gonna miss of course like he's human at times But the fact that he's not scared of taking that hit and it doesn't mess up his accuracy like that regardless of the talent He's playing against I feel like that translates. That's one of the biggest things that translates and also Um, I say all that to say you don't think that he can be a Dak Prescott Right like a guy that's fringe top 10 a guy that in the right system with the right players around him It's like oh he's gonna put up numbers. He's going to get you to the playoffs now Franchise QB superstar QB.

It's like like I'm a homes or a tambre right where you can give me scraps And I'm gonna pick you a six course meal Right. I don't know should do is that type of quarterback But I do think that he can be a Dak Prescott like quarterback where the situation is right We could win a lot of games. We could put up a lot of stats. We could put butts in seats and you're gonna pay me big money Do you do you agree?

I see him. I see him in that mode. Not necessarily a Dak I feel like that is a little bit more talented. I see him like a jerry golf type.

He could be a He's a black jerry golf He was over there. I was jerry golf is getting for Super Bowl. So that's not at all like a knock Because jerry golf the difference between the two of them once again goes back to what I say jerry golf at time That's what under pressure you do. That's exactly what shadir does not do Well, I say he's not talented though And that is and that right there is the theoretical side of what we see him go against so for right now Yeah, he doesn't get rattled because he's not going up against uh, soccer line of jadev on clownies He's not going up against you know, I'm saying like lsu defenses 2020.

He's not going up against these guys So of course he might look better than he is But but the technique that we're seeing against that quote unquote less or talent should allude to the fact that all right if you put Them around heightened talent on offense, it should bounce out a little bit That's what that theory should be but what we can't confirm it until we see it But wasn't he getting more than any of the quarterback last year? That's true. That's that's the record the record and he has to get back up Yes Oh, it's just that when he I hit they didn't win anything so it's like and that has nothing to do with just him But that's qv's in general. Yeah, but it's like he's like I'm not trying to damn him if he doesn't if he doesn't i'm just saying we have to go what we see and we have to be real out what we see It's like okay, that's what i'm sorry to cut you off you But I guess what i love joe because i was trying to think of like he's not a dad person but you made it perfect He is a jerry golf as far as like when he has a clean pocket where he got time to throw he can make something happen You see we've seen it when you have one there.

No, I'm not saying he can't ever do that I'm not saying that's why i say he's a black jerry golf so you can do something extra But i'm but i'm just saying like as far as his technique and how he's like how he moves in the pot He doesn't really move he's not a scramble at all just when we talk about it Because i said he's never he tried to juke somebody he can show him and even like he just stood in the same place He was doing all the shit like so he's not that athletic but he is accurate he knows how to throw a good d-ball and um He unlike jerry golf and in all in like most cases he's done it this the last few years But like when the pressure comes on like he can still step into that like you said people step into it and make a pro and make a play Do something um and he doesn't like giving up on a play for better for worse because he does take some unnecessary sex That's why i was sick now. He does that's one of one of the things i'm sorry real quick One other thing about him is that he does work the ball spread the ball around he doesn't necessarily have a favorite receiver I like that about him too. He's looking for the open receiver as opposed to i gotta get the ball of travis He's he's moving him all over the place He's right the course of the game but in the clutch i know he's got in the clutch he'll go to travis Because he'd be calling him out like hey bro just catch the ball you know i'm coming right back to you But so i do agree shelter throughout the course of the game he's looking for the open guy But in them clutch moments came like he of course he's gonna look for yeah he's not Yeah That's how he should be though. Yeah, but he's not he's not solely focused on travis like i ain't got no He's not he's not for traveling.

I think he's right now. I think that if everything translates in the talent level raises around him I think he's right now. I think he's a luxury Brock birdie. I think he's in that just a herbert to your i think he's in that I just said my birdie was one of the best QBs last year It's the attitude before the Brock birdie part is hilarious Because to me Brock birdie is not that guy I don't get that nose That nose Right no one is It has to do with the pic though because no one is expecting to do it go as the last pic and NFL draft if anyone drafts him They're going to draft him as a france i scored about QB that ain't Brock party Brock party only developed that when he was with the 49ers Shadora's going to come in as being that dude.

I mean That's basically what he's done in Colorado that's based off the skillset y'all may think it's low to bottom tier level when you're talking about jerry Golf or Brock birdie We still the fact of the matter remains he's going to be a first round pic and people are going to expect him to be a blue ship quarterback All right, well, I don't think people will expect that dude. I think that people when they take him I think that people are gonna expect there's gonna be a little bit of work that has to be done, but there's a great base that's not A huge argument. He's not a market brand has been true. Yeah market branding has been too strong.

Yeah, they want him Yeah, now if Rodney got smooth eyes early he's gonna be smooth He's still even brought he was a second round people. Yeah, so you know, I okay So I think the thing is we know he could play the game. There's no denying that we know that As far as him being a husband candidate like the only way he's gonna make it is a beyond keeps pushing and that's it Come all people have been talking to candidate right now. No, he's not.

No, he's not he hasn't been he hasn't been spite We were trying to tell you this everybody talks about Travis on it even Shelton and she'll think love should do it All he talks about is Travis on a husband's trans one of husband We've been people have been trying to put him in the race and that's why beyond gotta speak up for him He's not you pull up the eyes. I just was googling it's not happening unless the daddy keep marketing and pushing for him That's why dad had to say something. Yeah, now I agree with that Where's he not? I'm gonna tell you put your put your money in there right now.

Yeah, it's Dylan Gabriel cam war Travis Hunter as in gente And even got Kate kludnick from Clemson in here carl some gay gabros the Oregon QB, right? Yes, um Jackson dark from Ole Miss, which he should be uh Garrett nelson himer who from LSU He shouldn't that's not a real person, but right drew drew lr who's pin states quarterback, but he's hurt and then He's seventh now. He's not a thousand he's seven. This is five thousand one.

This mgm. No, I think that's right mgm list to his he's seven No all of my seven all of my time for seven Jackson Just like you think that arches a quarterback. He's the same thing. I'm a people tired from last place Like zenar still last place in the corner back.

He's I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it.

Anyway, let it go But um, but you know, hey now the dn started talking you gotta see some movement You bet you believe that. All right. If somebody's got started falling off you bet you can't it can happen Uh, do you think he has enough opportunity like in terms of Big-time opponents and is he going to have like because he's had really really good games But he hasn't in my opinion hasn't had like dominant games for 500 yards You know, like just you know, gaudy stats like he hasn't had gaudy stats. I think that uh, Travis Hunter is hurting honestly That's all people look at his Travis under playing both That is the conversation coming out of Colorado Especially because no one's ever done that like Like you know what's kind of happening with him is uh similar to what was going on with Matthew's effort early in his career Where people didn't know people was really that good because he had Calvin Johnson where everyone was like, yeah, I mean Who can't be good with that with Calvin Johnson?

Like the maddie's ever could have had 350 yards three touchdowns And they're like look at me the fuck you going into the play that ain't that's not really but they didn't see the greatness that he was You know working with but um, yeah, I mean, I feel that I've seen Travis play without him guys I mean we've talked about it on here and you know, it's still the same results So, um, but I get the knock if people want to make that assessment But they got also look at those games and it wasn't that much of a difference from what I saw But um, but you know nevertheless, we'll see what happens, but you know, it's daddy talking so The unfollow about the only black man that can make white folks move when he speak Um, but uh q you were talking about not good. Um, um So let's get to that the San Francisco 49ers defeated the Dallas Cowboys at home on Saturday night football 30 to 24 This isn't about the Cowboys. You say Mike's can he takes out Oh, mama from the train So I know what this is going so i'm gonna start with the question because I know y'all Y'all gonna pivot at some point but uh at 4-4 Are the 49ers back on track to make a playoff push? It's what I say.

I said that division is awful everybody got a shot I think I think the division is sneaky. It's like a uh It's like it's like one of them gambling rings where it's like you can make some money, but you really don't want you really shouldn't gamble there It's like that's what I feel like that the That is you wested like the Rams the Cardinals the Cardinals the Cardinals are just saying the 49ers all them are good. Yes Jimmy Regresson bro. I'm not Jimmy.

What's the name? All those things all those things you said the Cardinals are good I said they're their number one in the division people But does that make them good though? When else I'm making this the same as number one of the NFC AFC North that only made the best team They're good. I said it was the best.

I said it was good. I'll say it was a good The Cardinals are a good football team. We're talking about I watched him come back. I watched him come back.

It's the Dolphins the Cardinals are good football team He's not against the Dolphins. I'm not yet We're tour we're tour tour just got his brain I'm saying Two got more two now in his head Cardinals are better than a lot of y'all favorite NFC teams Like who? The Cowboys they're better than the Vikings. They're better than the Eagles.

She'll be better than the Vikings Absolutely We talk about the Cowboys right now We So we're not just they back on the playoff push though. I guess I don't believe it. I think the Rams are more dangerous though Let me say this. I don't know if they know I don't think they're back on track only because they still haven't figured out a way to close games They damn their blue that game last year if that could have done or the Cowboys could have done anything They've been blown another four quarter league.

That's a problem. They got to figure that out And if they if the rest call that pass interference, but obviously we know how things are when NFL you don't even the rest saying that's a different game Hmm. Yeah, so what are we done here with these with these Cowboys man? Anyway, what is there even to say at this point like the question about what it out is Jerry don't want to refund shit.

I'm like Trey Montez telling Nick is talking to his nuts and shit like it's getting crazy dude Like I don't know what's going on. Uh, Dagg is at the podium time. I'll start with me, you know, it starts with me Every damn game starts with him. Yeah, it does I was you but But But I don't even know what to say because Jerry this is his mess.

He has this is the bed that he's made He got a lay in this. I don't even know how much percentage to put on Dagg. I probably say like 30% is on Dagg because you got the corpse of Dao and cook And in the back field like you you didn't even like where is the The foresight to see that there can we once they come to your team He works out in off season in Dallas And I understand Cowboys fans. I wanted to tell me that oh, well that won't take it That won't take it because jerry got all the money in the world The 49er somehow can keep pulling millions out they ask every other year for all these positions And they can't find eight million dollars for a two-year deal for a derk Henry because he wants to stay in his home or where's where he's at?

I don't understand what's going on I'll go ahead part of that with the Cowboys. Jerry Joseph's talking about what schematic bit not just leading him under the top That's bullshit I'll say Hey Lou at one point in the game. I sang with us last week at what point the game did you give up? That's all I really want to know.

I'm wanting to know at what point did you know it was over was it? Did that bring you back a little bit with that? No, we're decked with a second deception When he was looking for him up the sideline and just like so it is like you know, What you doing? Why would you throw that ball right there?

That was what it was over because to Q's point It ain't necessarily got as much to do with everybody else than it does with that And I may be being hard on him But they paid him the highest paid salary ever in the NFL because you're expected to be better or lead when everybody else can't step up Yeah, you have a watched up course of Ezekiel Elliott and Dalvin Cook Yes, he is the only person that you have. Yeah, the offensive line may be skeptical skeptical But at the same time when you're paying someone like Tom Brady or you're paying someone like Patrick Holmes And I don't want to hear that isn't in that ballpark because he gets paid more than them So if I'm paying him more than them, I'm expecting him to do as much and he can't do shit But throw it a step since and make bad fucking reads So that's a mega fix. Yeah, that's the reason that the Cowboys in a position that they need because they expect that could be a game Breaker and he's not he's just an average regular quarterback who needs a really good football team around him to be successful And if there's not a really good football team around him, he's not going to be successful. They didn't be good coaches You're gonna be a good What's that?

I had to cut you off because don't you think that the two of you listed have exceptional things around them and some and some and some And some like okay, the Chiefs might not have the stellar Y receiving core. They got Andy Reid Yeah, like that's the exception of the bail to you don't do that I'm not That's the truth Make the deal step out of his home No, that does not happen Like I understand telling the QB that you got to step up But how do you step up in a dilapidated building like that? They ain't got steps like you know me like how do you step up in a How do you step up with no steps? I've seen some of the many exceptions and he's throwing some of the interceptions Natives here But I don't know I don't know if he had a better coach than McCarthy that he would be doing the same things I don't know this so he was got a point if he had an Andy Reid what bill better sit on the sideline Maybe he would be different but I don't know that and yeah, you can blame Jerry for that cue Like you're saying I would go 30% Jerry 30% Dak 30% McCarthy 33 33 33 as far as it's a bad coach on the sideline who can't get Dak, right?

It's a bad person up front in the person that offers who can't put the people around that and then it's just that like you're not The dude they're paying you to be it's never going to happen. You just gonna be after it for the rest of your career like Unless you have an exceptional football around you never be the quarterback of Dallas high-risk people and that's what we do No 30 30 30 30 10% goes in fans None goes to the fans we've been bearing a lot. I've been waiting set for 30 years, so I gave up. Yeah I'm still here.

I ain't got any raiser that I'm still playing the flag I came in to say I think my ass will put this hat on I wore it around all day They got ridiculed from random ass people in fucking public's parking lot, but still I got this hat on So it ain't it ain't got really a lot to do with the fans other than it's Jerry one who doesn't want to hire a coach who can put this You didn't write and then it's the coach who's on a one-year deal and I mean, what's he supposed to do and it's a quarterback? He's not as talented as he's getting paid to be it's like it's never going to happen depending on Dak But my thing my thing with all of this is and this is the one thing that will not change And I can kind of probably mention this when we get to the other subject too, but Jerry Jones is just I really think he set them all up to look to fail this year like purposefully more than normal Because normally he don't really you know his actions don't really cause any change anyway But this is like you mentioned like he doesn't give your culture an extension at all he basically saying like it's a play It's like you know I'm saying he gives he waits to the last minute to re-sign that and cd So that you can have saved him $20 million in pre-eight exactly he could have more bread to make something like if he He wanted to do those things he would have done him You know I'm saying it's like it's like your girls say like if you I know you want to cheat on me because you keep doing it Don't tell you sorry they like you keep doing like you could have done all these things Especially like you mentioned there can't be was literally begging. Yeah, yeah the plane. Yeah first class.

I get the Dallas saying like they go I ain't trying to only it I don't worry about tomorrow, but I don't I'd rather go home You know I'm saying like I just feel like he really just set this team up to lose because like We don't even have to get to the playoffs Because we know that that but regular season that is supposed to be the whole reason why you're paying them on this And if you're not said and we know how that that operates if you want to get 12 wins You guys said a nice run game and a solid defense and it's just like your front runner. You got to go ahead I got a great from the head that back is not an improviser And that's one of the best things all of the top quarterbacks in the league when you're talking about the mwajax and you're talking about josh out And you're talking about Any top quarterback in the league I disagree All of the top quarterbacks excuse me quarterbacks in the league are improvised They can make a play happen. You look at patch from homes We got the week rolling out after the play is broken down doing those plays where he can connect with the receivers with Kelsey He did that shit all year last year y'all were doubting him. Oh, it doesn't look good But he still made it super one That is only good when the play works at the beginning if you gotta run scramble do anything else It's over.

I gotta say this. We're not good I gotta say this because to me is like with that again. I'm talking about regular season Fuck the I know y'all bring up playoffs and when it really counts. We know that that I gave up on that day The regular season that is what I'm talking about He came back against Pittsburgh and he made a lot of instinct moves that went on that game We're in and he fucked up in that game too But he did just enough to win and come back.

I was shocked by that because I was You know As far as defense but my other thing is this like We also think like we bought a patty mahomes or I think somebody did and it's like the way patty's playing And patty was playing like this in in Dallas with this roster. They would be losing games too as well as but like if Patty was playing the way he has been also and you should be ready Andy read that defense on the real defense No, no, no, he was right. He was doing great. The dealers doing great.

So the Nick but patch my home is playing much better football than that I Watching the game When you're watching the game the stuff that patty mahomes does to win football games with it's rolling out extending a plate Because I need context This may seem like I'm going off road, but how do you how did you feel about running rumbles tenure in Dallas? Average to above average average to above average Is better than decks. Okay The reason I'm asking the reason I'm asking the question is very important for Dallas fans remember where we come from you know, I mean Always remember the regime or better than that question. I can respect that But here's the thing is that I remember year after year after year after year Where we're talking about that interceptions?

I remember telling almost very untimely interceptions every postseason every key game And there were there was better defenses with the markets where and all these people on this when Sandra was okay You had people on in the secondary I remember their names, but as an equal say I used to hate when it gets Dallas in Dallas because you had a pre-solid secondary from like 2010 to like 2013 three-year run with the defense was pretty solid with 20 room and towards the end of his senior started to throw more picks started getting hurt all the time Some of the way it happens with deck and I think there's a little bit of revisionist history because the conditions ain't changed Jerry still not spending on the team Jerry still not necessary People around and they've had a better online. That's what that that's that's a line that that can hear it And that line it got old and now that is dealing with a makeshift online Defense that's makeshift basically you don't have much help in your in your a seal positions And then you have this carousel of coaching from Garrett to you know, and you say they're both clowns So you have this clown show around this one piece and in cd and mica So you have three good things in a sea of mediocrity and trash And I just don't think it's fair for any fan to be like you're because we pay you money You're supposed to pull all this out of that. I don't think that's possible you're supposed to perform and I'll give you two Revutals to what you're saying there are two instances where the cowboys could have gone to the super bow and deck hasn't been in that scenario because he hasn't been good enough One was when he far moved to stop against the Seahawks when Tony roman was back there and all we had to do was take a field goal We were going to the super poll that year the second one was when Tony roman threw the catch today as brian And we caught the pass against the Packers and we probably could have went to the super bowl That hasn't even put the team in though Well, I get what you're saying it has been a comparable Track as far as what roman would and what deck done but what I'm saying with deck is he's less likely because he's not taking advantage of any scenarios He's only gonna do what you're expecting him to do as an average quarterback. Tony roman did sometimes step up and you're like, okay, I'm surprised He's doing better than I thought he would do he's doing better than I thought he would do it Only having dares brian as a primary receiver.

You'll never get that from Tony roman with Excuse me, you'll never get that from that press spot with Tony roman. You have some sense of where okay We ain't got that great ever running back. We ain't got that great ever receiving court He still led us to positions to be in we're going to the super bowl that press guy isn't and can't do that He got to have the best water around him. He got to have the best coaching around him Everything got to be perfect what to work for that it wasn't that way with roman now roman did have some fucking situations We didn't come through but it wasn't because of everything wasn't perfect around him that has to have I recall Roger's driving down the field on your defense and kick it in a field goal to win that playoff game Yeah, I believe that puts you on position when that game and the defense didn't hold up there in the bargain Air rod is that was the last that was probably one of the last great air rod just throw games I like James cook I think it was like and James cooking That day like he had 20 roman I believe 20 roman had a more balanced team for years on it and more consistency years on it She would still tell games and and there were still fans who would say that oh well We got to get him out of here.

There was very split It was 50-50 people would say oh he's trash and got get him out here And there were people who say well who else are we gonna get because he puts us in position He just had untimely turnovers that doesn't have any of that consistency outside of maybe 2016 in 2017 where you had a zik And then the remnants of that of that o-line that tony roman had with a with a kai and Zach fredger eggs all these people exact martin and fredger's about that Those those iterations of the cowboys undersold and disappointed whereas the underlings that you have around deck now He's the only reason why y'all even in these games at uncd and then sometimes when michael when he shows up Everything around him is going against him if he had an Andy read if he had a dude if he had if he had a matla floor around him Am I look different? I can play this year. Yeah Um, what if they had what if he had a zach taylor? What is that taylor with him because the philadelphia eagles Dominated the bingles on the road 37 and 17 Uh, the question is is jalene hurts better than joe burrow And do you believe the bingles are officially out of the playoff contentious old from uh, so uh Real quick real y'all was nasty nasty way to write that question so he could still come out on top as a bingles Really Is We talked about that was it because we talked about bad It's okay.

I was I was bringing it up because I was bringing it up because that was a question I was asked earlier on a few weeks ago. They learned to joe burrow and I forgot that they even was playing this year So who you think you think I'll ask this the question is for the group on the discuss The whole the same way except there's no one should build you No one sitting up here talking sports tonight should be I never I never said I never just just to be clear. I never said jay the hurt was better than joe burrow what I said was He's I'm going out playing like he did He said he was he said joe burrow always hurt. That's why he better than him No, the question was actually the real question was which one would I take and I said I take jay the hurt because his availability is better than not the What joe burrow is because he's not gonna be available on that's what I said I bring that up because a lot of people been covering that joe burrow and they saying this nigga may be overrated I'm just I'm just I want that's why I said we need to we can have that no burrow conversation right now If I want to have a camera right king if you say he overrated would you still put him in the top five Well, um the thought crossed my mind Uh, and it wasn't that he was overrated because I think this is kind of like his first down year But joe burrow was supposed to be one of those guys and You know the record isn't there.

We know the accolades. We know the history of him You know planning the super bowl etc etc. So the thing I was asking myself is Have we seen the best of burrow and if is this is what we're gonna have that's left are the bingles going back to um Mount mannered like in relevancy, you know where we only talk about them niggas around Like if the bingles got the the lions office appointed as a head coach next year joe burrow is right back as one The reason why is because the loose it the loose it made so much sense that the bingles ain't never gonna do that Like he gonna keep exactly because he took him to the super bowl I'm now on the fiefel train as far as the zach Taylor welcome wagon is gone And then because of you fiefel is because of him But um I just I just think that it was the fourth it was the fourth and it was the third and one that turned into a fourth and two or four And he both calls like why don't you do a qb sneak you really seen j-luh her's do it all fucking again You could do it too whether or not just keep changing moving and too. That's the fourth down call That's the goofiest fourth down call to do against that defense like when every especially Like he doesn't even out there so everybody's focusing on chase what you want to do is screen pass one fourth and three like That's like that's the soon he right there with my micard him my micard the No, so that's the thing like that's the reason why i'm like It's only when it don't work, bro But I'm a lot of people say you want to get the ball in their hands and your best player They try to play that would normally work on most teams.

It just scooped the gene made a good play And that's really what it boiled down to I don't think it was a I don't think it was a I'm not disagreeing it wasn't a good play, but it was an easy play to make You know what i'm saying like he made it easy for an anime Like who like like show them what you is that without a smart play call for you if you like take your egos fan away Would you have called that's what i'm saying that's that's what i'm saying i'm saying it wasn't it wasn't you got the ball in chase's hands That was what you really needed to do no I trust Is doing it down in distance like it's not changed more than the rest. No, no, absolutely not You don't pay your offensive line and you're running back that to do that for fourth and whatever it may be to throw the jamart Chase on the edge. It's not good coaching. That's bad.

That's bad coaching It's like a little game to teams to have a running back and quarterback like the Eagles. That's why it happens I run it back show. I played joke with it back. I tell you that much I was thinking I was thinking that the whole game i was like, bro They do one more touch was because I know I got sick on my fantasy I I Do it because they didn't last week he was like, no, no, this is what we do here So he actually He's too much of a team guy.

He's too much of a team guy. You see that's why he ain't on the Giants no more because he was willing to do anything and they still don't know which is dumb on them But now fuck all that shit. You gotta run it back for a reason right and say quan bar he's the best back in the lead this season Like let's keep it a bean. Yeah Between exactly and Mike McQuarthia.

I like right there together. It's very stupid. All things. I mean, excuse me If the question is jailers better than no, that's like no, he's not better than Joe burrow That's that's kind of ridiculous to me Joe burrow am I thinking I think just from a talent aspect he's played like a top-up QB this year I don't know what everyone else has seen.

I think exact Taylor is the problem I think that the ownership group of the of the bangles routinely does not invest enough in their quarterbacks I think from the Carson Palmer days They just don't invest enough and you see it in the way that they tried to you know kneecap ochosingo and stop him from being like a bigger than life personality I don't know man the way that you have jamaa chase being utilized in this offense even with how much of a monster he Is he still not being utilized what he should I think that even a team like the Giants utilizes league neighbors better than Uh the bangles utilize um jamaa chase and even guys like t higgins are not being on lock the way that they should be Uh, this is a game where I just look at it similar to that press guy There's just like you're they're not investing in these QB They're not investing in the future of these quarterbacks and they're resting on the laurels of the talent's gonna do what it does The coaching side on both of those teams that we just discussed especially cowboys. It's the same thing It's just I don't know what the identity is. I don't know what it's actually there's way too Tenant is way too passive. He's way too weak when it comes to yo You can go for this more than one and you can step on the next with a screen pass But trying to get jamaa chase emotional and like a side out Let him make a play in space, but that's not how you do it Get him a screen pass instead of blockers for him and let him make miss make it one guy miss Unless see if we can keep the drive going take take more shots across the middle there They were tearing our defense apart with these like with these And I'm like you have you have all the talent necessary to make this a real game And I think that the first quarter kind of it came back a bit then where they had that very long drive in the first quarter And then we came right back we came right back and scored and then we get the ball in the second half And it's like that's where the game time unravels take one started wearing down to the D.F.

The defense But no, man, I definitely am not going that far to say that the other hurts better than Joe world Nick real quick. You you watch a boy be enemy in there I'll take it. I'll take a chance on me over the next day I'll say Look y'all always be talking about some Well at this point, yeah, I would take a brown floor is because at least I know the defense would be good But you know, you're gonna take no medicine boys But I would take I would it brine for as high as the office of court and I'm with it too You know saying like fucking like I need I need to see like I would love it Ben Johnson If the bangles were like look we not trying to maximize on Joe boers for career fire exact Taylor because he always starts off oh and too Like get Ben Johnson in here. He would do wonders.

We'll still have chase obviously Higgins will be gone But we got a young kid like we we don't have a draft wide receivers It's like the Steelers and the bangles are great at drafting wide receivers even I'll say the Packers too But we don't get the most out of right now in this offense And I just like that's why I put so much I think I looked at this game and I was like everybody's pressing from the head coach to the quarterback Like they're just pressing because they know they dug themselves in the hole And it's hard to get out of it like every game is basically a playoff game to them right now They only can go seven and two to get to the playoffs, but you think they will get out of their question Hey, yeah, I still got a look. I'm not going nowhere. You know, I'm saying like I'm gonna have faith regardless, but I'm also gonna keep it a bean like you and you and you have no faith You hear just what you do. That's what you call me on heads Hoping that your teams win games and when you don't you all you know, we're not gonna win But then you know if you do win you can jump up and shout let you know You don't have no faith.

You don't have no faith Let me say this about this. I understand the question is daily better than Joe bar I don't think he's better talent wise, but let's put it this way He played head to head He had four touchdowns and four incompletions. We're talking about Taylor hurt now He played head to head last year with Patrick Mahomes who came out on top on the road Daniel hurts beat back to my home. You're guy, right?

And then he's Josh Allen up another top record of that hit ahead So all these guys that we're putting on this list this is my rush more these last couple years have been taken off by Daniel hurts So we don't I Anybody throws you say he couldn't make The Super Bowl he played Patty to how that turned out I I'll say okay within what happened in the playoffs last year who I played him was it a nigga named Baker? I think this is this is definitely jennel iris's best game probably in two years If you want to be generous his best game price in the last year against either kc or the dolphin But I definitely think it's the best sense that's a little both Just seem more This is the best game that he's played in a year and a half Trying to convince me Oh, this is okay How did he play how do you play in that bill's game? He's going to win Yes, what he do that's his career No y'all paying him enough to be in a lee quarter back and he's not when jayla when jayla hurts does good I think that we can say that it's an example of what happens when organization invest in their QB So I feel like instead of hating on jayla, you should be like really political for you. I mean you should be Usually clustering Jerry's boys male with yo, you see what happens when you get a saquon bargain Even though even the little congo worst QB in the league and can win games in touch my mom's imagine if you get that some help Jerry ain't been good since he blocked them like don't put this on jerry.

Let me talk about jerry. Let me go back to jerry We talk about jayla hurts in his and very average performance from the Let me say one bit game. Let me say the last two Jayla hurts. Yeah, he's we thought he was coming in teams at the league lu 32 right 32 teams in the league there was only 30 there's only one out of 32 teams They didn't have a turnover in the month of our toe which team was that all right, bro You put a show you should watch your head Okay, I'm sure that's a big fan of lead after the dude that led the league internal You'll be led your favorite QB.

No, no, you're your team's quarterback. You'll be led the league and turnovers. Who knows how long Now he just decided. Oh, I ain't gonna throw in a sepsions.

Oh, I'm gonna put a football I'm saying I'm taking that I'm taking on I'm taking on as an equal saying his best performance in about a year and a half for sure Uh as a team I'm not I'm not really riding too high on this because I think it's a good win But playing the Sean Watson and then playing the Giants is not necessarily Called for celebration and being in the biggest yeah, I mean shit Like three teams that are one team one team one team is excited that that the QB had an Achilles there One team is just hoping that they will don't get off the contract as fast as possible and listing on this other Figure out one team is struggling to figure out who they want to be so as an equal fan I'm not over here. They're like doing cartwheat. They're like yeah, we back us up. It's up We still got a phase of So I gotta see it, but um, it's still it's still a good win and still one of those wins that is good for confidence Yeah, y'all play Pittsburgh this year, right?

Yeah, we play Pittsburgh, but I want to see us against Washington and I want to see I mean Should be the hell out of watching They should watch Washington always give a And they got a quarterback, right? We don't meet a battle with the Cowboys probably for you know a quarter or two. I don't know Yeah, I mean and you know speaking of quarterbacks just to kind of close this out Nikki a guy burrow has a 32 and 27 and one record as a force career. So he's almost at five They let him they let him wait down, but like they let him wait down like I'm sorry Like I'm sorry like that's on the team and be like that's on the world like that's not on you Like that's what I'm saying like like it's like it's like it's on me to talk about him because it's like his stats screen like top five Easy and but like obviously when you watch the games is like of course it's a course right now supported back during league So like wins and losses everybody's gonna take that partially on the QB But I'm looking at it like over the last couple years like we really have not been hidden The Bengals have not been hitting hard on the draft like especially their first round picks like I love the first round pick they had this year because he actually helped out constraint brown guy hurt But we've been giving up players like Jesse Bates DJ reader.

Oh I forgot the other oh, she didn't have a Uzi when back when he was a little bit younger Like we gave up on them because he was like we gonna draft these lose We're gonna rebuild as we were competing and it's just not hitting and we just now gave up mixing last year Mixing falling for you. So like he's really like to me. He's the reason why he wouldn't win it like He's gonna be a Receivers for what AJ Brown does for Jla Hertz. That's what mixing is doing for CJ's throughout this year I'm gonna have to mute your mic you because what you're doing is shooting bail for Nick and Lou Because they're going against everything that they say about every other quarterback because that's always about we as a losses But right now we're not About oh we got Come on 37 and 37 and 37 Around it I lose in Last year last year I don't know I didn't I'm not sure we broke barrel bill at all.

I'm just saying like it's hard to make it It's I'm saying it's hard to make a case for me to defend burrow because they lose it regardless of what this that's it That's what I'm saying, but I'm saying like even harder to defend uh Jen Hertz You know how to the record defensive Records you talk about records. You talk about records Well, I know there needed to be some better defense in that Washington Chicago game because how in the hell the bears let that happen I have no idea Was No The fact that Tyreeks even said was the one that set the ball. Yeah Yeah, yeah, he got humbled you right you I saw that he make it best i'm gonna go in the bench and mortgage Hey, look man. This dude man.

He was he was extremely extremely humble. So he looks stupid No, he looks stupid, but it wasn't his fault. It was 31 so 31 Hey, bro Because of all the There've been a lot of infill players coming about Not even that not even that more so to my point in it being 29's fault 29 was the dude that was closest to dude to call the ball 29's job was to box the dude who called the ball out instead what 29 did was jumped up and tried to Hit the ball like y'all do who was over on the sidelines waving and talking to the fans He jumped up and hit the ball had there been someone on the receiver behind him boxing him out Which is what all the analysts said they were supposed to be doing on first take and fs one or whatever It may be someone should have been boxing the dude behind the tip out and he wouldn't got the ball And that was the dude's job who was behind the tip. I didn't do it.

He jumped up to the tip First of all First and foremost to receive it was out of position talking to the fans in the sidelines And then he was the one that ran across halfway through the field and tipped the ball Of course. So if we're talking about box out first and foremost, bro You shouldn't have been way over there on the end of the Anyway, it's job on the box. Do we have to talk about? You know what's crazy?

We do who lost his game was the one he was supposed to do that was we talk about one way You had a great week at your bail bonds company didn't you? So Right Do you um Here's the situation for people listening to wash the commanders were in an instant classic as you can hear the The steam panel or very passionate about the results of this game Which ended in a hill mary that allowed them to beat the chicago bears 18 15 on the last way of the game Which you know, there are two questions we have from this game one of the commanders serious contenders and two I feel like this is where you're gonna go shelter. Um, it's kalo living up to the height he had coming out of college So, um, what were you about to say? Shelton?

That's exactly what I was gonna say I was gonna say that we talked about this one play as if it dictated the whole game Washington was in control of this game because of what uh that defense and jay daniels doing jay daniels To pick it back up what nixa is every week jay daniels has been the rookie of the year so far And he dominated and kalo pissed blades up hard. Just like he did this whole game kalo didn't Really played well into the last series of the game when they took the lead other than that he did nothing because the defense kept him in it They kept watching it watching they were being but don't break watch it was moving the ball But they couldn't score so all he was doing was kicking field goals But there was a chance to win this game you had every opportunity all yet do's make a drive and he couldn't get it done When it mattered the most now he did get them down in the way they should want this game You should have got this game with a week but to say the least they could have taken control much earlier How you made a play and he was missing throws left and right? So to me it was just like I didn't realize how good the best defense was until this game Because I also have jay daniels on my fantasy team and scary terry for them You know the QB while I receive a combo and i'm like what's going on Like you were driving all the way down to feel scary terry called a 60 artist terry was cutting up this game Like but they couldn't get into the hands on and I didn't seem like his rib injury was hurting him too much Maybe up until that hill mary but like he was playing very well, but they couldn't punch it in and they're like high scoring like offense So then I was like I was looking at this game. Why the hell is it still non non zip or Non-not whatever it was.

It was just like How how is calip not able to produce anything against this washington defense up into this game with shitball from my mind? They played lights out Bobby wetner out there playing like he's still in Seattle like They were making plays. They was making plays and i'm just like break All these receivers you got deandris with who you started coming back on after being shitty as fuck this first after the season I just I just couldn't believe that he was playing like that so par especially after coming off for three games where he was throwing it all over the place Well that well the defense has been good for the bears all year the most they've given up until it's well even in this game 18 was the most they've given up all year and that was the Rams we know Rams can put up points Um court lines. I see it in the chat you absolutely right then hand out to the limon That drove me crazy.

I was like what were you thinking? Like why would you give the ball to a backup offensive liven on the one? You're not that's when I thought the game was over But that defense got them to ball right back and put them in position to score touchdown to win the game So they still had every opportunity to win this game several times and just didn't take it take it in Washington Wasn't I think that's gonna have a huge You can't give them an excuse for giving up like the ball to a backup offensive liven to seal the game And they end up losing that's coaching. I what the fuck right?

Right bro. You have the ball to a regular running back score win the game and in this Hey, we even saying being doing no favors in Chicago and they need to fire their coach Like the blue I saw the trash I saw the cobblows do something similar. It was 35 and handed it to the full that to the book What in the hell was that so yeah same situation stupid as Get him out of here, bro. What are you doing with this offense?

I don't look Caleb. Caleb um had a lot of hype coming in but he doesn't look like a bus as Because he played off with it first game didn't even have a hundred yards Throwing but he's played better Um with with each game. This was a bit of a down but both both of these guys struggled in this game Uh overall, you know jayden when jayden was hot coming in this game and and they kind of played They kind of match each other for the most part, you know jayden happened to get that touchdown to win the game Which put him over the top but you know in the defense that came down on this one Uh, even though they kind of was bailing him out but kaleb has to get some of that College shit out of him, you know where he thinks he's still at usc these guys bro This is the NFL we say this all the time these guys come in and they got defensive tackles that can run you down You're not out running people. You're not gonna outplay people.

These windows are are tight You can't play everybody's open in college. This shit is different You have to play the game at elite elite level so when we see jayden dang's before i'm at the level He's playing when we see kaleb williams start to make throws he's not all the way there But we see the improvement, you know, we we have to come in that now can you sustain it? Can you keep it going? Which is why when we look at guys like Anthony richison, um, and i've watched him play but he already got benched When we look at someone else's struggle he benched himself.

Yeah, they figured it Yeah, they somebody said all right, he get all the rest of one on the bench Can you hear the story about that? No, wait, wait, no, I did not No, it's not on the dock. It's not in the right now. We need to talk about it though.

Yeah, we can we talk about it? Okay, um can in terms of jayden daniels versus kaleb williams I don't disagree right like and i'm the one that's been saying kaleb week to week has looked better right from the previous week He struggled. I think he only had like what 33 yards past it like in the first quarter the first half or something like that some crazy low stat Yeah, you know, he struggled back at the end of the day can the difference between jayden daniels and kaleb williams And I just recently learned this like maybe about a week or so ago When jayden daniels transferred to lsu the reason why he skyrocketed was they have this virtual reality thing where he's taking mental reps Right, he's not on he's not on the field, but he's literally watching and taking mental reps And once the commander's trying out that he was doing that at lsu they implemented it I think that has a big reason why he came into the NFL and he's been dominant because mentally he's ready What the defenses are throwing at him. He's seeing it not only just on the practice field and fulfilled study But when he goes home and he's like yo, I got an hour.

Let me just go do some mental reps He's ready can and we're seeing it like we he has been on a historic pace We haven't seen a quarterback on my college and play as good as he has it has to be a reason for that There also has to be a reason for the um the Heisman Because he was a mediocre, you know saying very talented but middle of the pack quarterback and all of a sudden He's a Heisman and now all of a sudden it looks like he's he's in the MVP race. It's not saying he's gonna win it But yo, he has to be in the MVP race It's experienced. Um, like you're right. All of these things are adding to his experience However, it is still I had six years to play quarterback in college And I can come into the NFL and I can be better than someone who played two Anthony Richardson one Uh, Trey Lance whatever it may be I have more experience than those guys do I play six years at this position at a very high level and You're right before the the interactive aspect of it.

Whatever it may be with the test, whatever the apple idea Whatever you had that's cool. It's great. But I would blame I wouldn't give as much credit to jayton as I would Blame other coaches for saying why aren't y'all doing it? Why why folks next don't have it like why why why all like why Caleb don't have that?

Everybody should be duplicating this thing that we've seen be successful with jayton Across every other young quarterback in the league 100 percent Even down to the high school level. I don't disagree But this is something that's relatively new and we know what football is. It's a copycat sport Bucklee gets a copycat sport. Yeah, so the fact that jayton daniels has had this level of success I'm pretty sure especially with younger quarterbacks.

You're gonna see this be a norm even down to the college Should be should be like everybody everybody every young QB needs that I mean you say like jerry Why don't you have that? You know what I'm saying like at this point? I would say this though. We gotta We should talk about coaches a lot on here.

I'm gonna get a shout out to The dank win because that when say what you want man. He can turn around a program at least I see the commanders this good. It's just ever But I think this is most sustainable because they learn from those lessons are dandy dance the best Ricky QB I've seen since angel luck probably this is a this is a really special performance. I agree with it It's been very what he's been doing is like very Take a note.

I'll say tax rookie year So you guys got them contenders like what what about the attendance? I don't know the contenders because I'm not sure how well Honestly, they will be able to compete with Like I've asked your Texans. Yeah, they're there there in seeing expectations, but they haven't played tougher games as of yet Yeah, so it's all like no division games They played they played the Giants already, but my thing is like Luka but a bean at the time that that crust got rookie year, but no did you did you not? That rookie year was 18 hundred yards that year 18 hundred 1800 That's a table with that queen.

I think he's having a more exciting gear than uh, cj strap. Can they win a playoff game? I would I would think it's possible. I think it's I think so because he's To me he could potentially be the scariest QB out there If he has the ability to be like a Lamar Jackson Ish or light mixing with like Joe burrows accuracy because this motherfucker don't have a place Look like they're all overplays.

Hey, and it's he got in my focus on like That's great. I want to ask you to say they will win a playoff game Are you expecting them to win the NFC East or you saying they'll win a wildcard? I think I would be so they'll be the five seed most likely and they would play the lower seed like Vikings Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to be here the Packers or something. I could easily see it I mean, I wouldn't be surprised to be the way I'm gonna just bet on the lack of the series And say maybe the five seed and have to go to Tampa Bay and they can win that guy They have to go to Atlanta.

I think I can easily see in Jalen Daniels. I'll do it Michael Phoenix You know what makes jayden special is the poise. Um, you know, obviously he has immense talent So when you're comparing them to to that Nick, I don't necessarily agree because jayden has and I'll just say what you're saying like You know, that's about the run. I'm just I'm just about to run I didn't tell you what I understand what you're saying, but at the end of the day We got it.

We got to look player for player and what jayden has is immense poise in the pocket and out of the pocket He has physical gifts that you know, only a handful of quarterbacks have but he knows how to maximize it and not only that He's in a situation where uh, what's his name? quiff kingsbury first and foremost learned his lesson previously in the NFL came back and now he's just maximizing Uh, his opportunity, you know, to say to have a french i scored a back and both of these guys You know, it's just divine timing for the both of them But jayden if he can stay healthy he is going to be somebody that special I just hope he keeps his ego in check because that's the only thing that can get in his way. Yeah, like Archie three go out last night I was gonna say real quick people For people who are able to look back over the games took the point that you're saying there was a throw to jayden made The third play before the hell married like there was one that was out to terrible words Yeah, it was one before that where he skipped a pass And it didn't make it to the receiver, but the reason that he skipped it is because it would have been intercepted had he thrown correctly And that's the point to where people was talking about just the overall game knowledge that he has versus a deck press guy versus someone Who i'm gonna try to make it here because I think my arm telling this going to work versus not I know what the defense is giving me This is what i'm going to take and i'll take the rest of these two plays to try and win the game That's exactly what people were talking about if you look back You have NFL plus look at that third to last play when he skipped the pass to the receiver and only reason he did it Because he could have tried to make that completion but the only reason he did it was because it was two people right there It couldn't intercept the ball and that wouldn't have did it so great point before Last one we got when we get into our weekly picks the brown secure their second win of the season at home defeating one of the AFC's elite teams the Baltimore Ravens who were on a bit of a hot streak uh they beat them 29 24 Uh same thing man. Let's look at the Ravens as uh contenders or pretenders and then I think the Question for me honestly is the second part about the james can james to be to the browse what jino is or was to the seahawks The fact that the brows be the Ravens was such a shock that they had to go trade for the what is it they uh shall Change this right I'm gonna trade I find that trade very weird because why you go you go and get a ride receiver because your other wide receivers drop the ball And then you go get the nothing Johnson the only Johnson does the ball all the time He drops the ball and keep her downs he babbles the ball on key possessions and you go get the other Johnson ball So you think they should you think they should have a Cooper cut yeah Clayton anybody I like Think they can win at the business.

Cooper cup is available. I would have got the cheese over Yeah, he is the cheese was got him he was before this week, but now they see They would have got a second round pick bro. The Rams is moving off of a bro. I don't know I mean And poop and poop is playing well in two two's playing well too.

Yeah The Rams can't get his injury problem and not selling off as Without cup that's the point We're getting to the point in the season though where wins like this Kind of defined the characteristics of a team and losses the on pictures of the other teams And I'm not saying that the Ravens are not a good team But it's when losses like this where I look at the Ravens as being It's just kind of a jekyll and high type of team I know that they didn't want to for in a row for sure They want to really tough game against the commanders, but beyond that dude. I'm not Afraid of the Ravens. I'm not afraid of them like they and to be fair No team in the NFL is like put fear in my heart this season because everyone knows that they have blurring weaknesses But that's what the Ravens have is I see glaring weaknesses and sometimes and just the wiper season core Whether it's preparation whether it's identity for that week when they want to get their camera 20 carries They they give it to them when they give them 10 It's like I don't know what you want to do harvaugh like let's let's pick something here And um when you lose the guys like james it makes me think like okay, I can see this day was beating on play else I can see the field is beating on the regular season. I can see Either way the Ravens could get this football or they lose in the first round It's hard for me to see what this team is but no james is not gonna be there They're like saving grace Did you name is that everywhere he goes?

So have a 400 yard game with the saints and then three games when they go out of a four turnover game and then ends up a Dreaming somewhere else so I'm just getting you know, I'm wavering faith you shout out to Jalen for all of the low low a Thursday he's been putting And I'm supporting He's not like he sounded like if Martin Luther King was a opium Like I'm not saying to the Browns Orgo be a juggernaut, but they're gonna mess some teams up this year and I say that because you got to look at this team for what it is They have a really really strong defense, um, which they've always had you just got back nichub this week Which that's the biggest factor that people aren't paying attention to is the fact that you got nichub and in your life You got that harry back room That was you're not the father Mike You had a nichub to this office and all Winston has to do is be consistent not turn the ball over like you said he tried to get a game away He threw that far right to him Man Jackson one Look the rate the Ravens didn't lose on that last play The Ravens had multiple opportunities to kind of put this game away Um, it's a given more of a cushion than what they had But Shelton like one key thing you say and it don't go together, but this is not peanut butter and jelly James Wilts James Winston Go together We know he's gonna we know he's gonna turn the ball over a little at least a little bit Now here's the thing I think um and I put this in the chat and I just left it at what it is because I wanted to address it today Heavis the fans he's not on the hot seat and for myriad of reasons what being the main one being It's not his fault that there are as bad as they are No Are you saying the same thing about Brian debon because then I would say you consistent with that if that was that Whoa, yeah, you don't have I want to say like you for the same way about Brian. Yeah I feel 100% the same way about Brian debon I think they're gonna let him go only because they're they chose the qv Um over everybody else included sequon. So they ball obviously is expendable in my opinion. That's how reading that room Um in my way.

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Wait. Wait. I'm sorry Brian debon is more expendable than Kevin sepans. No, I didn't say that Oh, what I said is outside looking in it looks like the giant's moves have made brian debon expendable Including sequon The fact that you are willing to let your best offensive player go because you signed down your Jones That tells me that the coach you don't really care.

Well, that was the GM because the head the owner was like nigga Don't let sequon out the door Regardless how I very went down people it doesn't really matter though in the coaching circles man They're not they're not shooting be able to know coaches these coaches don't get a pass And it's wins and losses the bottom line no matter what your situation is your owner is gonna make a move I mean, it's not it's getting personal and I get Cleveland is different. Cleveland is different They don't know this whole thing up. So now it's only a couple places that get passes and that's you're gonna get you'll get a pass in Uh, and you read will always get a matter of what's going on It's certain places like that, but Cleveland is not one of those places you went through it where you sat through and watch some of these other coaches Um, but the reason I was the fan They're not gonna get in that pass. This is the reason why I disagree We saw Joe flack will come in last season as instant success instant success the offense look night and day from de char Watson One game in obviously, you know, they were a whole bunch of But it's not in day I want to say I paid his duties guarantee money.

I want him to start this reason ain't bring flack go back Yeah But what I'm saying is this this go round. I don't know if they bring the shot back Then here's the thing it's sure if I'm the shawn i've already shown my ass that I don't want to really They get loud on here tonight. The song has been playing like he has no motivation because he's making how straight as hell So what's the point of him coming back? I agree.

I agree. It depends on the ownership ones man Because if the ownership is the sole reason why they paid the shawn Watson and Kevin stavansky is like having for him saying You know, I can't really win with this dude because from what I understand Hello brian implemented the shawwatsen's cleansing offense and made it more oriented to his college skill set Whereas kevin stavansky wants to run a lot of west coast a lot of just pro style offense and to shine it Downfield and the shawn is like, it's not my style. I never did that. I do way more like crossing routes You know get more like creative and it's the man's the other creative coach But it's still pro style offense and the shawwatsen has been bucking that system since he's gotten there So I think that the marriage was probably doomed to start and I think that it's also Making the shawwatsen look even worse, but I don't think it's the man's keys on the hot seat here because you know ownership I'm going ownership saying he I can't do it.

He's not he's not listening see what happened when we put a joke like a 37 36 And you see what we can do with this guy we can get to play off here So that's that's where I think we're headed now is Came as Nancy will keep his job and they're gonna have to put something around him that he wants So y'all saying what should happen though, but not what owners think y'all know owners don't think like that owners don't ever think that You say all this Is going to happen what I'm saying is owners owners don't think that it's them that's the problem ever They don't dare tell us whatever you think it's going to happen. No, not cleaving. What do you think it's going to happen? They're gonna get rid of the quarterback and get rid of the coach too unless he They're gonna win the streak.

They're not gonna keep this game. They're gonna fire him I don't see They can't get rid of it. I don't see that. It's like never have I seen a scenario in preface I've never seen a professional sports where the talent that the ownership wanted to win with and you can't win with And he gets hurt and then you bring in talent.

There's backup talent and you excel Constantly multiple times with different guys a PJ Walker all these different different guys I've never seen that scenario where the ownership and especially if you're in constant contact with ownership being like This is not my system. You just He's he's auto pulling out of place. He's checking out of place He's not listening to me and if you're the ownership and you're just on somebody. Oh, make it work.

Make it work You you gotta have a backup plan. Who's your back up? But going to get Brian Flores. He's gonna want to come here like what the if you keep this on what the team fire Kevin It's the fancy this by the first time where I think coaches will get turned off from the fact that you let you let the coach go But kept the talent because it's like We saw we saw you mentioned it people when he said when they did it to see Wilkes It doesn't matter.

It's the owners way of thinking the owner owners owners are not logical thinkers They're not saying well, it's not we know Brian Davis is a good coach, but we're not they're not thinking that way He's gonna have to go he's gonna have to because I'm even saying that's how coaches love But they give a day about multiple seasons and I think that I'm not I'm not even trying to show anybody's fan base But I think that Carolina and Dallas are two outstanding examples of like owners that have a large amount of hubris And way too much arrogance and I don't think it's relevant because how he rose me wouldn't do this You know I'm saying Jeffrey Laurie wouldn't do this if we saw that Dylan hurts was playing like absolute garbage And then we put in fucking Kenny ticket and we're winning games They're not gonna fire next year. Yani and be like, oh, well, we paid them hurts No, they're gonna be like, okay Well, we have a coach you that can win the Rams would do that if Matthew staffers are stinking these old and they're gonna fire Sean Big Bay I think you got a franchise used to losing that you know, I mean that or franchise that's under, you know Underselling themselves to actually get away with coaching talent that clearly can transcend with just minimum down Well, he's been there five years And I think that Watson can hurt was the best thing that could have happened because he was losing with Watson And if he finds a way to win with Winston that will help him But if he would have continued to lose with Watson after producing results with flaco He would have been out of there. So we'll see how it plays out people But yeah, I think and thanks for that queue. I don't think I didn't know that because when I saw the results of the game in terms of Winston's productivity as a quarterback compared to Watson I'm like, well, what the hell is the difference?

Yeah, you know, and and of course also Winston and flaco And this is just the one game sample They'd be like like it's pretty it's pretty clear to see that the coaching talent is there And especially when but when your fan base is cheering that your quarterback is towards Achilles I don't think the ownership is looking at that is like But see you're right, but see that's what I'm saying that ownership that you're talking about that that is so near sight And they don't have the same site when it comes to the coach. They're not gonna look and say well Hey, maybe it's my fault. They can see is your fault regardless, you know, we've all worked at places that look at it that way These folks ain't playing themselves ever. I think Just gonna blame to Sean Watson.

I think I don't think they're gonna blame this the fans. I think oh, yeah No, he's trash. They should know I'm with you. They should I think that gerameo just saved his job by being the Jets So I think yeah, I think he was gonna be because I listened to that bill since podcast where most of the he was the main one criticizing Everything.

They tell about this is a bit of down here for mayo between uh, what's his name? Will Levison? And gerameo what they was coming at the day, so I think any black too. I mean, uh, Owners.

Yeah, we got a quick trigger on a shitty coach speaking of a down years. Can we get into this Anthony Richardson? I was gonna ask right before we got to pick up. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead.

Go ahead because pick something else So apparently what happened if unless you want to go and give this a sense of this and not to see Yeah, yeah, like like can I'm surprised that you you haven't seen or heard about this but The man took himself out in the third quarter and said that he needed a break. He was tired about He ran he he Was just Please yeah, I'll be he subbed himself out and took a knee on the sideline because he said I'm you know, I was really tired. They asked him after the game reported raising so Anthony on that on the third downflay How can you stop down unless you know and he's a man. He was a man.

Honestly man. I was just tired, you know, I was really just tired And he's getting grilled by Pat mega feet and sharp everybody's like yo, you just lost a locker room, dude Yeah, this is what I would say to that. I think more so than it being a blamable offense As far as him really admitting what was wrong. He just is not experienced is an experience enough to lie He told me to he said it said he should have said it's a hamstring.

I told my ankle Anything this other anything other than I'm tired and I want to come out. That's what you need to say Never comes out of you a good player Yeah, he but see the thing about it is when he said that he said it like there was nothing wrong Exactly. Nobody said anything to him until he got to the media Once he put it out there once he once he put those words out there. That's when the media attack him next thing You know, he's bitch I don't even think it was that big of a problem in the locker room to be honest with you.

I was Yeah, no, no, no, but I'm saying I don't say that was a professional sport before that's a big problem. You can't say I'm tired Now that but he but the way he said it in the press house with like he had a problem with So, something to me already said they knew it I got something to coach lock on right him to me It's just like regardless if he meant it or not then the world doesn't need to know that right? So I'm saying like his his age tells you that he does not know how to know We need to keep it a bean and we need to keep it to yourself like We talk about the wrong thing here has this man just played his last down in Indianapolis doing that. Yes Football This man is completely this man is completely his passer rating is in the 50s this man is barely completing 40% of his passes He's barely completing 40% of his passes This man has almost a two to one interception a touchdown ratio What is we talking about this guy was pure raw talent coming out of Florida and he was questionable there We just knew that he had a crazy arm and crazy legs, but we knew up top mentally He didn't have it all put together He may have played his last down at least for a couple of years Look, I'm not saying I'm not saying he doesn't deserve another chance I'm not saying that the talent says that you take a flyer on his god But he may need to sit like Gino has like some of these other journey back That may be him Real quick.

I just want you know it's time to pay him next year is his card ticket Yeah, no, no, they're not paying him That's what I was saying to me to me is like if the if the Raiders can't This is a contract here. It's a regular If the Raiders can't get she'll do it If the Raiders can't get you do I see them making a trade for riches and get And how did you see someone trained us? Do you know? You can go up for a six rounder If Trey Lance got a deal he can get That's what I'm saying I'm not going for a first one I was like maybe a third person saying my same ass right Lance I think But I agree with you Q was like I think he may have played his last down and Andy because I don't see how you come back from that as well as an organization And and fans one flacko and on top of that This also is a This is also in these fault like you said everything you said before we all knew that well into the draft and well after the draft Yeah, they wanted to throw him out there to the woods like he's a 22 Who's just pure raw time like you said if you like what like obviously sometimes it works sometimes they don't but when it don't it's ugly And that's what he is He don't know shit because he ain't getting coached right in the organization.

Don't know what the hell they doing He would have suited so much better for himself if he was sitting behind black over two years He could have learned how to keep me and then he could have came out there 24-25 Coming more into his grown man body and being able to understand the majority of your man I mean for sure, but it's like he like he fully will develop as like a human being by 24-25 And his mind would have caught up to your front of your front of cortex I ain't even developed a 23-2 like 22 So it's like he could have been a fully grown man ready to go understanding the game I think that this is a failure on once again, man We're seeing that ownership and coaching matters so much in the NFL And people have to highlight that more because the philosophy of an organization the philosophy of a coach It matters so much more because it all comes top down like very rarely in In team sports do you have these just organic flashes of genius just happens? Always somebody pointing to see that ends up, you know, blossoming like you believe in patreon home So you put him behind Alex Smith for a year. You believe in Jordan Love putting behind Aaron Rodgers for two years You believe in Sam D'Arro, we've had this on that but if we're the Vikings three years down the line Yo, let's let's see what we can do with this guy It's all about your philosophy and opportunity And I think the opportunity was there for Anthony Richardson to be a good QB for the Colts But when you say I'm tired you lose a locker room. You lose the fan base They're already calling for flacko to start and I think he played his life down Yeah, he already been He's been he's been betched the cycle.

I agree. I agree with you in the sense of He somebody should have taught you differently from how you express how you were feeling when you took yourself out the end That's crazy for you to come out there and say that Because definitely I'm like let's not do it as quarterbacks have done this players have done I'm glad about it though. I know why I have it right but they get to the point of the oh yeah I nicked my hamstring and I had a knee on the sideline That's all I was lean too cute like people who are in these positions franchise positions They know how to lie about you can't you can't come out and be like oh man. I was tired bro Yeah, I'm coming out.

I'm tired you can't like everybody everybody I can't do it everybody who's going to the concussion tent don't have a concussion They go there I'm gonna go there to get a look I need a quick breather where they get like everybody has a homie on the coach and staff and then like a staff I need to give you a quick shot and my arm is what it is but him not knowing that Jim rsa setting up another QB for failure because in a different realm though This is what happened Andrew look when you kept letting your QB get demolished behind a terrible offensive line We lost one of the best QBs possibly that we've ever seen should have been now with you know I mean he should have been a top like QB of all time and because of brain and soft tissue injuries He came in tight shoes come again with without pain. So Jim rsa has to best of all billion this but Anthony Richardson This is this is bad dude. I feel like you just lost your opportunity here He made you know, yeah, you could have just said uh the coach could you could have stayed in the coach could have called a REM play or something like that Where you have to you know, it's their himself, but you know, it's it's a bad little but this is uh, we got a new wave of kids That's that's our hero. So yeah, I'm talking about kid.

Don't try to make some kind of That's the new generation of kids and how they deal with stuff One time I gotta be the leeway to rule it tell y'all my public because it's just Brad 22 years old is exactly That's what I'm saying. No, I'm not saying it's not this generation of kids. It's a 22 year old kid period No You must you must have got to raise that lose bell bonds. Yeah, they don't double your pain I don't work out the eight o'clock It's this man.

Look the generation is I know I sound like an old head, but it's just it is they're softer, bro. Don't say that they're softer Look, we are back Can't nobody yesterday on the basketball shift bags games this dad. They low management bro stop being soft, bro Ken who's your favorite player? Who you got number one in NBA?

What I got to do it Man Because he's different because he's not like the rest of the You know what it doing ain't doing the soft shit is everybody doing Jason Taylor ain't so I So He's soft Let's get it to the kicks, bro This is where we are Yes, this is because it was the goddamn watching to get it was all of watching the end. There was another upset. Oh, I got you I would have been better back if I had changed that Falcons big night. I was it was a table big Falcons game and which which Tampa almost They almost they said yeah, hey that fumble But did you see that?

What cow pits fumble the ball on the one y'all line that they missed what they're doing? Right now, what are they gonna do with cow pits? They have to let him go. They have to train him to the Chiefs because he is He looking good right now.

They were saying that How much you paying them though Because you got to pay and you got to pay Brian Ross or middle tier Money, but Nick you still under 500 though We About to be in the 2020 twins by the time we come back next week But yeah, it was it was interesting we last week everybody everybody took a long What do you mean? I want to um with the uh dead end viewers the viewers choice. Yeah, um, y'all been making a comeback as well Yeah, I was shit ball too. Just keep it.

You know, just laid out there But y'all are 12 10 and 2 They had it there was a tie um Between it was what game it was there was a time interesting game. I gotta find it But I was just like I was surprised that they couldn't figure out who was the better team on that one But they get it together So I'm next who we got we got yeah, yeah, where you want to go first? Oh, let's go with Who did I pick? I did it um Let's go to an interesting one something that hits both home and away.

Let's go with Dallas versus Atlanta. Boom Lulay While Because there's been like two or three weeks. He's been going against Cowboys That he had a piece of cobwebs at some point. That's it And we almost won we were leading a lot of the game to the 49ers.

I think the Falcons are a shitball organization The office fans that listen to me I think that shitball and I think they're one of the few organizations that will let us beat them in the state that we're right now They'll make a lot of mistakes her cousins are though interceptions They won't do the things that they need to do and win the football game and I take down See I say everything you say but I switched it from the teams perspective to just Kirk cousins Because I do think that the rest of the falcon scene is pretty good pretty solid Um, I just despise Kirk cousins because we talk shit about a lot of qb's But people always like the praise the ones as mediocre. You know I'm saying so yeah, to me. It's like I don't see How and why? Kirk cousins all of a sudden getting a nice rebranding candid.

You said that shit Kirk hello broke. Well, go on here's about Kirk cousin bangs whenever they're trying to call Um, but I do think that a lot of people have compared Kirk cousins with a Dak Prescott He's either the white or the black version one of the two And this would be interesting, but I just think that the father better team and they're healthy Check it. Come I could for the beginning of the clip because I want to be able to play that when we whip the ass He said we walk in your trap take over your trap. They go get trapped here.

Kirk Kirk bro. He buying in Too much Um, I can't wait to see Michael pennies Michael passes don't start before Everything's gonna have to get hurt I I'm just I'm saying is that it's gonna be next year. It's not gonna be this year. I can't wait to see Michael pennies That's when I'll become a falcon fan.

Um And a giant and a bingles I'm just to make sure I just to make sure I got all my my cards right in a row Oh, you gotta put the test in that too I'm a sauce and ronger's they say they'll even call themselves no more this year. He's just been a mark You all pro for two three years before they forget about you when you have a down you That's all around Up next we got an interesting game just for the fact of um, we're gonna see if he's more uh, two or than tuna We got Miami going to get buffalo With two a scramble I So I'll be interested to see but I just think that he goes back to my question earlier that I asked us In the beginning the season can I was like, why do we think that Miami was gonna be good this year? I know we given a lot of grace because of the Before that injury, but he was playing shit. No, no, he was But look if we look at what the dolphins did last year and they're bringing back right I talked about the continuity Um, and obviously, you know, we know football players everybody is liable to get hurt, but um Even though to it is susceptible even more so now to the concussion.

I didn't foresee it Um, and that's holding them back, you know what I'm saying, but it is what it is, man. Um, and they just paid this You know say so I think that that's the tough part. That's all I asked like who's in a worst qb situation the dolphins or the dal Browns I was saying dolphins are cowboys that between those two dolphins Because because the thing is is that you can draft a generational wire receiver DB running back whatever that can change the The trajectory of water. I was on the Northfield quarterback on the healthy though Ex with the dolphins exactly so to me with Dallas, you know for the most part that has been healthy You could draft one guy because because the foundation of the coboys ain't trash is just in my opinion They don't have enough right so one or two guys can change the trajectory where with two or he's one fall away from ruining the season again because it's not like they're devoid of talent, but They might have to draft the quarterback just because hey, bro.

You might not play 16 game So dolphins are in a worst qb situation versus the cobwood Up next um, I forget who's the redditor who always who's the he's the fan he'd be posting he's just He's all over the de that is for his reddit thread But we got he was the versus the jets in new york Um, this game is interesting because I've been watching the texas because I'm mixing on my fantasy team The dog and Ryan's he just mixes them in Oklahoma. I take shit Um But they be winning they barely be winning these games. It'd be like 23 20 20 they used to be how they lost to the Packers like even if that the last two times they face the Colts It's been like by three points for it four points for it. And it's just kind of like How I need to see a dominate win and I feel like with where the jets are And they already talking shit about sauce in the chat like if they're really that trash This is the game to prove that like this is the mail in the call from the season then over explain can Yeah, it got a turn at some point bro.

They got too much fire I think it's just gonna say that. Yeah, they got too much power This is the time like for what Nick just said. This is the time that it could turn because That these games are real close. Yeah.

No, no. I hope not that Yeah losing losing to the Patriots, bro. That's a low But so is like some Broncos as well. So it's an offensive look better But now it's like other things aren't coming into into play here So I just think this would be the one that they'll finally get back on track and figure out a way to start winning games again It's it's interesting that That one lost the Denver sent them on this down with swagger off of one Still go kick that should have been amazing And everybody autocultures we talked about already up to the season, but last one I thought was gonna get fired and we went five Was solid I'll at least thought they was going I'll at least thought they were going to that bill I let the diss and win to that bills game and or the atom straight, which we already know what's happening It goes to the point It goes to the point I was making these owners They don't care about these coaches We they don't care about what you should what what what you know when this circumstance and that circumstance all they care about is wins and losses And they'll get rid of a coach whether that coach has everybody support or not if the owner feels like a man I'm gonna change they're gonna change it.

I forgot The we got breaking news we've hosted on days and I'm for the season this game is a little bit more interesting Anything about it. I forgot about that. So what do you have? 20cl 20cl.

Yes. Yeah Damn You know what the issue is with the Jets Ken Here's the thing I don't disagree that you know This is if they're gonna turn it around. This is this is one of those games that they need to turn it around But the reason why it feels like they are spiraling is because they don't have an identity Um, erin rogers, I'm not gonna say he's a shell of his former self, but he's not he's not the QB He wants what he's done defense is not dominant at all, right? And then Even in the defense, it's like, okay.

What part of their defense is super exceptional, right? Like they're good, but they're not exceptional at either rushing the pastor's stopping to run Like they're not exceptional how they have been so again They lack identity when I watched the Jets is just like, okay. Well, what the hell are y'all? Y'all the air roger show, you know saying the air roger show and got no game plan Uh the final game, which is now interesting one because I forgot about this injury is where we got detroit going to green bay But jordi love may not be starting got a growing injury.

Well, he had in the last game um However, it's Gucci was in that Gucci like made before at that right lu. Like, I'm sorry He's one he's proven elite will is can win games. Yeah, but that's that's the whole yeah, if he's yeah, he's not playing This is correct. This is correct.

Fuck all that. We damn near all of you that the lines were the best NFC team They don't matter The marjax said it we all agree that That um the rapers were good The best thing when jerry gov and erigov and erigov and erigov and erigov is clicking on all cylinders and they said they're good in that Yeah, I feel I think green bay Um they got the line. This is when I thought join-a-love was playing me too So I like their chance me to especially against that secondary because we know where join-a-love's gonna do bro. He's throwing off Hey, my elite may do so Maybe above average daily not just the fields in this game.

He may do some running. He may do a challenge like daniel john But okay, well, you know, we'll see how they play out. Yeah, those are the picks All right, uh, I mean you give up 500 I got to Just a kid loop ties it if the card was gonna be my Dolphins don't put it on me. Hey, they keep it winding down for a minute That's why jaylee began out here too, man.

He'll be about something something here. I'm gonna say don't know me and jaylee got out here I mean it's early now. I'm good. Hey, lu Exactly who asked like we deflate the airbag You get real sleepy like that I see it do I see it every time I'll sleep like a slop All right All right, uh, rom-ca suggest might need to start taro Taylor No You might be right.

It might be over with Uh, josh rose this taking 15 years of waking up at 4 a.m Every money to watch them for the just to finally break me every just fan should work out this season Maybe that's not give us any of their money to woody Rajas has had the same stance for the last two to three years He tried to hold it. He tried to hold on You may hear from my burner account the bingles was in the Raiders I'm just praying for us to go So don't break the world break your head Perhaps gonna hope for us. That's wrong. Oh, we got it.

They got to worry about his next president Got shit else over there. Uh, another week of people realize that he brought us over ready and osmond loser I'm glad people are finally seeing what I've been seeing. You know, it's interesting man. That man is old and like 40 It's actually with people that shit bro.

Don't know what you know I don't know what you can't you can't you can't say that because everybody was just saying he was the difference though People were no no he should have been no he said he should have been no I got you what I'm saying is have that stance when he was winning They're waiting until the man, you know starts losing to finally say all this stuff. Yeah, oh, yeah No, I don't believe he's overrated and ultimately that makes no sense. They want a Super Bowl You know I'm saying some of other heaven damn Reno didn't you know I'm saying anyone for MVP's like oh, you know, oh, right? It's just they didn't win as much That's it.

Yeah, he just yeah, it's just yeah He's old To Tampa, baby. Well, I'm ready. Well, I'm good. Fuck that people everybody ain't patty my homes That's what we need Telling a Brady's career.

He wasn't all that and neither was Peyton Manning I don't disagree can't but all I'm saying is is that when they went to their perspective teams the books and in the Broncos They they won hey, Rocco's the Broncos you remember Carrie Peyton Manning, bro 100% can can can all I'm saying is that they won that's all I'm saying a writing do a writing doing that people I got every PC ask for that's why I get the problem with people I agree with you. However, if the Broncos didn't win the Super Bowl that season we'll have with Peyton Manning We will look at Peyton Manning totally different. We were having a conversation while it was in season 100% Together That's why I said just the wins Our resident Trump supporter showing up. Hey, man, if you're a supporter you got you share more money than that, bro He was you all so well who if y'all had to bet he's winning the selection Trump account I hope Trump wins y'all don't have the answer that question if y'all don't want to I just wanted to put that in there showed over under Kamala or Trump.

What's the over? I got this Trump has just about a chance to win it as Lou has a stand away No keep going keep going. Hey, go have a week. I'm awake.

I said so keep going I was turned keep going. I was about to lose this last game until shelters cues don't lose rain through my head Where's the whistle being echoed into that a super hit mic and that's And last one Uh, jon's rose. I don't want to pile on riches buddy in a fair history through 10 stars is completely percentages only above 10 tibo He just is ready. They may never be god lead us Project quarterback now he has a project man.

I think he's gonna be okay though. He'll see gonna be okay in in uh, Vegas I'm like Get back out there what you did. I think you know, right? I'm a star some house Yeah No Yeah, I'm looking at this.

I didn't see the game but he looked like he Statistic way well. He wasn't no He wasn't he wasn't gabbing. He was He thought he was nobody. He's he's not really whatsoever in quarterback development.

Um Yeah, different paces, but once again, you throw in some uh See bro, what hey, but run the final credits like I was like Is this is many interceptions is that I'm staying up for rice young. No I thought this was interesting. So I read this in what we're called in the night Uh, this is on twitter uh sam block who uh roe anthony richison is 22 bench rice young is 23 bench Trae lance is 24 bench and he's been in the lead five years. It feels like just if he was a 25 bench will ever since 25 bench That was some 25 bench matt jones 26 bench and kenny pickett is 26 bench and he said the NFL is a QB development problem I felt has been the NFL is has been spoiled by some of these guys that come in play already from day one They're not all on this same level.

They're not that that doesn't mean they're tricking won't get them there Sometimes but I see why I see why the NFL is pressing because they was losing a lot of day legend They white man legends quick and they didn't know how to make these black boys was going to be box office and that So they was that's why they were just running through all these qb trying to figure out who's gonna be To cast You know what i'm saying? You know what it comes down to um, I don't know if you remember but before the the The draft picks were slated Um to a certain salary like the NBA is now right before it wasn't that like we're talking rookies getting mega contracts The last person to fuck that off everybody was demarcable. I thought it was Sam branford I thought he was a man bran for both of them It was in that time frame both of those guys got side massive deals as rookies and both of them were bust Because that and in some of these rookie quarterbacks coming in just being ready The NFL does have a QB development problem And sometimes you have to identify those ones that are ready to go and the ones that aren't and the ones that you play that aren't You know, you should you should give him grace, you know what i'm saying? It's not up to me to the side.

Um, I think every situation is different Anthony Richardson again, I'm mentally talented But he wasn't even not just ready like he was a project Me like like outside of the crazy arm and the crazy legs there was nothing NFL ready Yeah, he should have been sitting like Jordan love did Like He never he never had the time to develop. He only started I think 13 games in college It wasn't like he had a huge similar similar training to be honest These guys did not have um, they have a mitz talent But they didn't have the time to develop to learn to read defenses learn to handle the day-to-day living and these teams are Are not equally yoked. So we take for granted sometimes where these players go. That means everything that that that's everything So, you know every program at the same right all right, well, we'll end it there man Uh, we appreciate you guys coming through once again and we'll catch you guys next time we all peace