Are we kidding ourselves about decarbonisation?

Australian rooftops are resplendent with solar panels, but sustainability expert, Martin Brueckner, warns the popular notion that we're rapidly transitioning away from fossil fuels is deceptive. When you add Australia's fossil fuels exports to our domestic energy usage, he says, it's clear that "decarbonisation is yet to begin in earnest". Also, whatever happened to the dream that Australia could become a world leader in Green Hydrogen production?GuestsAlison Reeve — Energy and Climate change Program Director, Grattan InstituteAdjunct Associate Professor Madoc Sheehan — Researcher, James Cook UniversityProfessor Matthew Hill — Head of Materials Science and Engineering, Monash UniversityProfessor Martin Brueckner — Pro Vice Chancellor Sustainability, Murdoch University