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EPISODE · Nov 25, 2025 · 48 MIN

Are We Numbing our Feelings with Productivity? A Conversation w/Healing Equity United

from Come to The Brink w/ Zoë Flowers 🪬

Welcome to Come to the Brink. This is where we gather — the grievers, the dreamers, the builders — to speak honestly about what it means to live through endings and still create.My guests today are Fiona Oliphant and Cassie Whitebread of Healing Equity United, an organization dedicated to centering those living at the margins by valuing lived experience, amplifying marginalized voices, and realigning power within institutions and communities.Their recent article, “Preparing for the Future Means Feeling Now,” reminds us that numbness is not neutrality is the only way through this dystopian nightmare.Fiona brings decades of experience as a legal advocate, executive director, public speaker, and Jamaican-American mother with an unshakable belief that collectively we can end violence and oppression.Cassie is a radical educator, coach, and community builder — a former teacher turned consultant who helps organizations operationalize equity through honesty, care, and connection. She believes that transformation starts with courageous conversations and collective action.Click the link below to reference the article mentioned in the podcastLink to original article (https://bit.ly/start-with-feeling)Connect with Healing Equity [email protected] Linkedin | HEU InstagramRegister for the upcoming conference!Rooted & Rising: A Virtual Gathering for Healing, Connection & Collective Action (bit.ly/RootedandRisingHEU)Feb. 5, 20269 am - 2 pm PT | 12 - 5 pm ETEarlybird registration is open until December 15!In times marked by grief, uncertainty, and the urgent need for justice, Rooted & Rising offers space to pause, replenish, and reimagine what’s possible together in 2026. Through story circles, experiential healing practices, and action-oriented breakout sessions, participants will leave grounded in community and inspired to take meaningful next steps.

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