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Jun 5, 2026 43 min

Are We Teaching Programming Wrong? | Shop Talk #83

from Dave’s Garage: Shop Talk Hosted by Dave Plummer and Glen Hodges

Are we teaching programming wrong? In Shop Talk #83, Dave Plummer and Glen Hodges explore how programmers learned to think about computers in the early days of personal computing—and whether something important has been lost along the way. The discussion begins with a viewer question about systems thinking and how younger generations can develop the same understanding of computers that earlier programmers gained by working closer to the hardware. From there, Dave and Glen dive into programming education, abstraction layers, memory management, operating systems, Windows internals, neurodiversity, career development, and the skills that still matter in modern software engineering. Topics include: • Learning to code in the 1980s versus today • Systems thinking and engineering mindset • What modern programmers may be missing • Memory allocation, malloc, and abstraction • Understanding what happens under the hood • Windows internals and software complexity • Neurodiversity and problem solving • Career advice for developers • Viewer questions from Dave's Garage and Dave's Attic Plus: the bozoliveshere registry key, Saskatchewan stories, microphones, Joni Mitchell, and a few classic Shop Talk detours. This episode was built from more than 3,000 viewer comments and hundreds of audience questions. Thanks to everyone who comments on Dave's Garage, Dave's Attic, and Shop Talk. Leave your questions in the comments for a chance to be featured in a future episode. #ShopTalk #Programming #SoftwareEngineering #ComputerScience #DavePlummer

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