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EPISODE · Apr 21, 2026 · 28 MIN

Are We Thinking About Mental Health All Wrong? Marcus and Amber Capone on Real Healing

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When someone says “mental health,” most people freeze. Marcus and Amber Capone are changing the conversation. Subscribe for new episodes every week.WHAT YOU’LL LEARN✓ Why “mental wellness” opens doors that “mental health” closes✓ What helped Marcus release the weight he’d been carrying for years✓ What the default mode network has to do with repressed trauma✓ Why healing as a couple requires both partners doing their own work✓ The difference between mental toughness and mental wellnessMarcus Capone, Navy SEAL veteran, CEO and Founder of Tara Mind, and co-founder of VETS (Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions), spent decades carrying the invisible wounds of war, until he found a path forward.After years of antidepressants, talk therapy, and brain clinics, in 2017, he underwent ibogaine treatment - an experience that fundamentally shifted how he understood his past. In this episode, Marcus describes how the psychedelic experience allowed him to see his childhood through a new lens, releasing self-blame he had carried since he was a boy.Amber Capone, co-host and co-founder of VETS, shares how faith, prayer, and daily practices supported her own growth alongside Marcus’ healing. The Capones explain why couples who heal separately but show up together create the strongest outcomes, and how the wrong environment can impact that progress. The Capones explain why couples who heal separately but show up together create the strongest outcomes, and how the wrong environment can impact that progress.The Capones reveal why individual healing - and mutual accountability - both matter in a relationship. They discuss the default mode network, how the ego builds narratives that keep trauma locked in place, and why vulnerability is the greatest show of strength.This conversation covers psychedelic therapy, ibogaine treatment, childhood trauma, and its connection to military service, mental wellness habits including meditation, breath work, journaling, and gratitude, and the critical role of spouse support in veteran healing. Marcus and Amber also preview upcoming episodes on bullying, gratitude practices, and deeper dives into integration tools.Subscribe to Conversations with the Capones for honest conversations about healing, resilience, and building a life worth living.ABOUT THE CAPONESMarcus Capone is a decorated Navy SEAL veteran, CEO and Founder of Tara Mind, and co-founder of VETS (Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions). Amber Capone is a veteran spouse advocate, co-founder of VETS, and leader in the movement to expand access to psychedelic-assisted therapy for veterans and their families. Together, they have helped thousands of veterans access life-changing treatments.FIND THE CAPONES HERE: Website: thecapones.comVETS: vetsolutions.orgTara Mind: taramind.comInstagram: @marcus_amber_capone#ConversationsWithTheCapones #MentalWellness #VeteranHealing #PsychedelicTherapy #Ibogaine

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