Ariana Grande's Meltdown, Explained

Tim Rice sits down with Daily Wire Upstream editor Madeleine Fry Schultz for a special pop-culture edition of Behind the Story. They break down the internet's biggest celebrity conversations of the moment — starting with the backlash over Ariana Grande's new "Petal" music video, where she pushes back on fans and media who've raised concerns about her weight and appearance. From there, they widen the lens to pop music's biggest names: Sabrina Carpenter's campy sex-symbol persona, Olivia Rodrigo's Lou Reed-style pivot (and her outspoken Planned Parenthood advocacy), and Hilary Duff's surprisingly wholesome comeback tour. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices