Arne (Fyrn) - "When you feel stuck, sometimes you have to force change"

Arne from Fyrn joins me to talk about the ideas behind their upcoming EP Hope Despair. We dive into lyrics from their song Grip, about feeling stuck in modern life, and a line from La Dispute’s I Shaved My Head, which leads us into a conversation about forcing change when you feel trapped.We also talk about boredom and creativity, building a band from scratch, cutting back on drinking and smoking, and trying to find a place for yourself somewhere between hope and despair.Fyrn's EP Hope Despair comes out March 19.Follow Fyrn: @fyrnbandFollow Into the Cave: @intothecavepod