EPISODE · May 21, 2026 · 1H 6M
Art, Memory, and the Generations Before Us Featuring Julia by Mes
from Healing My Parts: Real Talk on Dissociative Identity Disorder and Complex Trauma · host Healing My Parts
Some people find art. Others are found by it.Julia Mes had never made art in her life — until about a year and a half ago, when a stone-dotting workshop and a YouTube rabbit hole into neurographic art opened something she didn’t expect. Parts of her system turned out to be artists. Others are still not so sure. And one part has been loudly, clearly stating for months: “I am not an artist.” No further information.In this conversation, we explore what it looks like when creativity becomes a language between parts, how system mapping evolved from a spreadsheet to a 42-page Google Doc to a park in a shoebox to hand-painted stones. We also move into something rarely discussed: intergenerational trauma, the concept of the “Grandchildren of War,” and what it means to carry images that may belong to another generation entirely.This one is quiet, honest, and really beautiful.Inside This Conversation• When parts disagree about who you are — including one who is very clear: “I am not an artist”• System mapping as an evolving, tactile, annual practice• Neurographic art as an unexpected tool for internal communication• Late discovery, menopause, and the energy that was keeping things submerged• Growing up in Germany as a grandchild of the Second World War• Holding images that feel like memory — but may not be yours• What the messy, funny, sometimes devastating day-to-day looks like⏱️ Timestamps00:55 – Introducing Julia and her system07:43 – How the artistic practice began — by accident14:04 – When not everyone in the system wants to be an artist23:01 – System mapping: from spreadsheet to painted stones32:07 – Finding out you’re a system in your late 40s34:46 – Menopause, DID, and the energy that kept things submerged42:54 – Grandchildren of War: intergenerational trauma and the German context56:54 – The messy middle — desperate days, dark moments, and laughing because it’s so sad01:02:17 – What Julia wants listeners to take awayIf you’ve ever struggled to put your internal experience into words — Julia has an invitation: grab a piece of paper and a Sharpie, write “there is no way to do this wrong,” and see what happens.ResourcesJulia by Mes — juliabymes.comInstagram: @juliabymesFor more resources visit: healingmyparts.orgConsultation & Training Healing My Parts Substack — healingmyparts.substack.com@healingmyparts on InstagramThank you for listening! 🩷🫶💜 Get full access to Healing My Parts at healingmyparts.substack.com/subscribe
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