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EPISODE · Apr 11, 2026 · 51 MIN

Artemis II Splashdown ...Plus, Hapless Vance heads to Pakistan saddled with Trump's Iran folly

from The Briefing with Jen Psaki · host Jen Psaki, Adm. John Kirby, Robert Malley, Ali Velshi, Jim Bagian, Dr. Mae Carol Jemison, Moses Small, Josh Einiger

Former NASA astronauts Jim Bagian and Dr. Mae Carol Jemison are joined by Ali Velshi,  Moses Small and Josh Einiger to talk with Jen Psaki about the concusion of the Artemis II mission as the astronauts emerge from their Orion spacecraft. With the global economy in upheaval and his domestic approval dropping like a rock, Donald Trump is sending his number 2, JD Vance to Pakistan to try to make a deal with the Iranians that allows Trump to get out of the war he started with Iran with as few embarrassing concessions as possible. Adm. John Kirby (ret.), former Pentagon press secretary, and Robert Malley, former special envoy for Iran, talk with Jen Psaki about the challenges Vance will face. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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With the global economy in upheaval and his domestic approval dropping like a rock, Donald Trump is sending his number 2, JD Vance to Pakistan to try to make a deal with the Iranians that allows Trump to get out of the war he started with Iran with as few embarrassing concessions as possible. Adm. John Kirby (ret.), former Pentagon press secretary, and Robert Malley, former special envoy for Iran, talk with Jen Psaki about the challenges Vance will face.

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