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EPISODE · Apr 21, 2026 · 1H 16M

Assurance Unknown with Kai-Fan Chang and Martin Schaffer

from Assurance Unknown · host Kai-Fan Chang

Welcome to the first episode of Assurance Unknown podcast, a podcast about the untold stories of the high assurance security evaluation and certification industry. My guest of this episode is Martin Schaffer. We touched upon different topics in this episode including:The career path of Martin in this industry and how he created a dedicated security evaluation and certification department in NXPWhat was the strategy of NXP in choosing the evaluation labs for different productsWhy a faster CC evaluation and certification process was needed and how smart CC was bornThe creation of SESIP for the security evaluation of IoT products and how the idea of composition was appliedThe challenges for the future of security evaluation and certification in the era of AIFor a full experience of the podcast, please also check out the following channels:blog: https://substack.com/@certcleinstagram: @certclemy company website: www.certcle.comHope you enjoy the episode and feel free to comment, ask questions, and share your ideas with me. Special thanks to Narasimha for the cover art and Shiqi for the intro and outro music!

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