Atomic Bomb Walking Ghosts

In the dead of night, as people sleep, that is when the spirits creep. As the bell tolls three dark things take power, we like to call it the supernatural hour. Hey, welcome to the Supernatural Hour. This is your host, Riven.

This is Chad. This is Drake. And we are super excited to be recording. Every once in a while it feels like, oh my gosh, we just recorded that this is one of those times where I think I'll feel like it's been forever.

Yeah, it seems like it's been a while, but it hasn't, but we're glad to be doing it. I don't know about you guys, but my July was absolutely slammed. I'm actually looking forward to August because, you know, we're all busy, right? Still busy, but it's not as busy.

How about you, Drake? As you're busy with new baby. A new baby and job. So basically you're getting no sleep, is that what I'm hearing?

Like two, three hours. Yeah, that sucks. Well, Chad and I got back from Hawaii just last night, so we might be a little, I was going to say hungover, that's not the right word. We're a little jet-lagged.

I slept on like to noon today. It was amazing. So we are going to be talking today about a lot of fun stuff, but first, Chad, you've got some interesting stuff to tell us. First of all, let's start out by we're being sponsored by Castle Photo Studio.

Castle does a great job. We've had recently taken by him for a team. We should be getting those up on our app site, and our normal site pretty soon to let people see our bright smiling faces and what a good job he does with his photography, but Castle does a great job with photography and he's one of our team members and one of the founders. So go to Castle Photo Art, it does weddings and or for sure, outdoor stuff, all sorts of different things.

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It starts with a J, and he's been with us for a couple of weeks. Yes. And he is local to the Utah area, so shout out to J. We'll be an official shout out.

We're looking to send him his stuff. We just need a little bit of information. We get him his special patron package. He's one of the new patrons that has qualified for a special goody basket, the Ravens put together.

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We'll do it periodically, but you never know when. And you know me. We might go for a long time before I remember to do it again. So if it's something that you're thinking, eh, I don't know if I want to pull the trigger on it because I got the stuff and a ton of stuff in there.

Tons and tons of stuff in there. So we have our shindig coming up for those of you who are already patrons and Jay gets to get in on that. And if you sign up. Absolutely, it's not too late.

Our shindig is on the 23rd of August. If you sign up the morning of the 23rd, you're a patron. You get to your inside. You get to come to that shindig and break hardly the best.

They are. And all the food that we get, especially if a certain insider that brings those cookies every single time. Oh, no, right? Yeah.

Those are amazing. I'm not supposed to eat sugar, but I eat those cookies because they're that good. So for you non-patron non-insiders, we do a potluck and people bring some of their favorite things and we share things and we have a great entree that we bring and drink and advance paranormal brings and utensils and the drink and everybody brings their favorite dish. And we have a great time just hanging together and then we do a great investigation at a fun place, a place where going is quite haunted.

Yeah, and the investigation we do is just, it's kind of a free-for-all. We eat, we talk and then it's just going out on your own. But if you're new, we'll certainly support and guide you and hang out with people that like to do it and we're there for everybody. Absolutely.

So that's August 23rd. Only our insiders get the location and you'll find out about it later after we've had it. And so insiders, you will be getting an email on location and times and all that fun stuff very soon because that's coming. It will be included in this month's supernatural insider pocket will be very important for this goes up.

So it's probably already up. So that's coming up. We're looking forward to it. We're not about the new investigation, but we're going to talk about that towards the end of the podcast with our other investigations that we are going to discuss.

So you can look forward to that. So like I said, Chad and I were just in Hawaii. We actually went for our nephews wedding. My name is beautiful, but while we were there we did some other stuff including Pearl Harbor.

And one of the interesting things about Pearl Harbor is the way they describe it there is it's the bookends of World War II for the United States. And what it means by that is the attack on Pearl Harbor brought the United States into World War II. And then while you're there, the Missouri is also there. You get the ship, the Missouri.

That was where they signed the peace treaty officially ending World War II on September 2nd 1945. You go to Pearl Harbor, you're seeing the bookends of the war, how it started, how it ended. At least for the United States, I mean it ended for everybody. So it's interesting because the topic we had already picked for this kind of has to do with World War II in a way, there's a connection.

And that connection is the atomic age. When the atomic age was born, the world entered a new era of science and power, but with that core. As we know radiation destroys flesh, but it can really warp reality. We look at the Bay Prize cities of Japan after the US dropped atomic bomb in World War II to just the soil from the Cold War testing grounds, which a lot of people say is cursed.

There's just a lot of stories that have come about that science can't explain. You know, ghosts and gas masks, undead pilgrims, their soldiers still waiting for orders in the desert. And tonight we're going to unlock what we're going to call the atomic vault and talk about some of the tales of what we're going to call the Walking Dead left behind by man's at least invention, which is the nuclear bomb. So the first one we're going to go to ties directly in with Japan.

That's going to be the walking ghosts of Hiroshima. And apparently there are radiation victims who reportedly roamed after death in Hiroshima. So if you're unfamiliar with this, or if you are familiar with this, a little recap, on August 6th, 1945, the United States dropped the first atomic bomb, which they named Little Boy on Hiroshima. Over 140,000 people died by the end of that year, maybe not directly at the time of the bombing, but over the course of that year.

And in the hours following that atomic blast, there were survivors that were staying stumbling through the ruins, of course, because that's going to be very, very shocking, very disorienting. And witnesses say there was skin hanging off, eyes glazed, mouth silent. And now they call this the walking ghost phase of radiation sickness. That's interesting.

Both of my grandpas served in World War II. And my dad's dad, I knew he was in World War II. Let me step back, getting ahead of myself in the story. My mom's dad was in World War II.

He was in the Pacific. He actually wrote a book, not one that people could buy. He was like a history book for the family about World War II. And so I knew everything that he did.

But I knew that my dad's dad was also in the war, and that he was in the Pacific. I didn't know anything. And this was just maybe a year or two ago. I asked my mom, I said, where did he serve?

What did he do? I don't know anything about it. And she said, well, that's because he served in occupied Japan, and he would not talk about it. And so as I was reading this, I thought, wow, I can imagine that would just be horrific to witness some of that destruction that happened to the people, so that makes a lot of sense.

So there are some things that have been told. Eyewitnesses describe just a surreal calm as the people walk through the burning city. And they said that a lot of them are aware that they were morally wounded. Of course, shock is going to sit in.

And you just wonder what kind of energy might that have invited in? Whether good people surrounding them, protecting them, trying to keep them, maybe safe, as mentally as they could, or negative energies, because they're compromised. Survivors and descendants report recurring dreams. Some say they've had visitations and spectral figures walking the riverside at night.

And I have not been there. I would like to go there someday to see Japan. We've heard it's beautiful. There's a place there called the Peace Memorial Park, which is built at the bombs epicenter.

And tourists often say that they can feel unexplained cold spots, unexplained nausea, and just an unshakable dread. So there are culturally essential pans, such as the Uri, which is what they call restless spirits. And it fuels the belief that many souls are trapped in the traumatic death and unable to move on. There's also a local legend, which is really well known called Black Parade.

And this is, I think this is just really sad. It's a line of ghostly school children that are seen walking to a school that no longer exists and their outlines are kind of charred. So those are some of the walking ghosts of Hiroshima. And Drake, I know that you're going to talk a little bit about some at the Nevada test site.

So mainly from 1951 to 1992, the US conducted over 900 nuclear detonations out in the Nevada test site. Soldiers often unknowingly exposed radiation were using desert exercises to test troop endurance near blasts. Many layered diets from radiation related to illnesses. I just think that's so sad.

They're just out there doing their job thinking that they're safe. And they were so unaware of some of the effects of radiation. They had no idea they were putting themselves in that much danger. And a lot of other people didn't know of all the dangers either.

This was new to everybody. It wasn't like they were just being exposed because people weren't taking precautions. They didn't know they needed to take precautions with much of it. Military braces and bunkers now near Yuckaflatt were left abandoned.

Modern workers reported hearing the shamarching, drill commands and seen shivering men in gear. Multiple paranormal teams had visited Area 13, a highly restricted testing site. They had a cold record of straight anomalies, ghost meters spike when names of test operations like Benon Blom on the upshot, not poor or spoken. That's just, think of it, that's huge trigger words right there.

Absolutely. Atomic shadows appearing on test structures resembled those burning into walls. In Japan, they had some of slowly during surveillance footage. Many of these ghosts are said to not react to living in the state of acting out routines like haunted echoes from a nuclear past.

They're even tales of phantom helicopters circling the desert, seeing but never heard. That is interesting. That sounds like a lot of, not all, but a lot of residual stuff. And residual, I mean, that just the amount of energy and the amount of emotions behind that.

I could see a lot of residual that makes total sense to me. Also, for example, it was a certain area in Utah, especially in the last couple of weeks. You get enough to get stuff there. So it's going to walk around.

It's just had a lot of UAP activity, even all the way over into Vernal. Oh, I don't know. It sounds like it's time for us to come out and camp out on your front lawn. From where my house is, we really don't see a lot, but it's from coming into Vernal from the reservation.

Yes, but you're a close drive, a lot closer drive than from my house. Like, it's like 45 minutes. Yeah, that's not bad. Okay, back to our topic.

So we talked about Hiroshima. We talked about some of the testing grounds. We're going to go back to Japan and talk about Nagasaki. They just feel like in Nagasaki, there's a lot of spiritual fallout in hauntings.

Also on August 9, 1945, they dropped the meaning of the state to drop the second comic bomb, which they call Fat Man on Nagasaki. This one killed about 74,000 people. And what I thought was interesting is Nagasaki actually has quite a long Christian tradition, and it was just as far as what I want, religious districts. It was really spiritually distinct in Japan.

They had a cathedral there called the Yurikami, and at one time it was the largest Christian church in Asia, but this cathedral was destroyed in this blast on August 9. So a lot of the clergy and faithful were inside the cathedral during Mass when the bomb hit it. The ruins are preserved. There are still ruins there, even though the cathedral, you know, as an intact piece is destroyed.

And there are stories of priests that are seen walking through these ruins. There are locals that claim that there's a bell that tolls on some August nights, and they thought it was to be a spiritual memory of the church's massive bronze bell that I had that they would ring often. Pilgrims often will visit the atomic bomb museum that's there, and many of them have fainted or claim to feel hands pressing on their shoulders. Of course, paranormal investigators are going to go there.

I certainly would like to throw a normal investigate there, and they have measured temperature drops and emf spikes on a hill pass that lead up to the cathedral ruins. And there are some legends that speak of a burned bishop who guides lost children to safety only for them to later find out no one was there. These are living children, so the kids will come home and say, oh, this bishop that was burned helped me find my way home. And then they go to try to find him in these mother.

And interesting. So what does anyone know about Chernobyl? Chad and I watched a really good documentary on that about three or four years ago, and he had a son that served his mission in that area. So we, by no means are experts, but we've heard quite a bit about it.

So Chernobyl is kind of, if you don't really know about Chernobyl, when hiding under a rock, Chernobyl was the largest nuclear reactor meltdown in history. But there has been multiple events happening in Chernobyl, because you have, even though it wasn't a nuclear weaponsite, the Chernobyl disaster in 1986 in the USSR, which is now Ukraine, was one of the worst nuclear events in history. Like I said, it was a huge nuclear meltdown. The area around Perpiat was abandoned leaving behind ghost towns.

Soviet secrecy led to widespread mist and dark folklore. There's even still talked about that today in conspiracy. But Soviet soldiers and liquidators who helped clean the reactor often die from radiation, while locals claimed their bodies were never properly buried. Miss Suna Mergedov, Chernosombe's burned figures, seen crawling from reactor ruins and wandering Perpiat's empty streets.

Explorers report hearing voices that mimic their own, footsteps behind them in empty hallways, and figures moving on the red glow of Geiger counters. Villagers and Belarusians Ukraine passed down oral tales of the Greyman, described as tall faceless entities who appeared just before. A quick quote, equipment fails. A former scientist recounted seeing a blister humanoid figure at a reactor that had been sealed for years, he quit and never returned.

I don't blame it. That would be unsettling to say the least. Yeah. In that documentary, it was interesting when they talked about how many people were impacted by this.

They got literally hundreds of men go in and try to cover the reactor, the parts that were radioactive of the material, the different things. And they'd only be in there for like 90 seconds, because much more than that it was a lethal dose. And so they were doing that. But they went through hundreds of men and then they would just cycle them in and they could only do it for about 90 seconds.

And they were fully in it year and everything else. But yeah, it was just terrible as far as how radioactive that area was. And they say it will still be even past art of lifetimes. Oh yeah, when Chad's son was there on his mission, there were, and you'll know the story about it.

But there were times they were told they couldn't eat the mushrooms, they couldn't eat fruits at certain times. Any of the local Rome, and when you say local it was a huge area, the ball out impacted a lot of, well this wasn't Belarus, which is in the western Soviet Union kind of area. And it went there over the F-Grainburg and it also impacted a lot of Europe. Not as heavily as the Soviet Union, the country, the Soviet entities that were.

Yeah, and he said that they would take a train and drive through areas and he said that there were just strange things that were way taller than they should have been. And I don't remember exactly what, but like eight foot dandelions and just, you know, nothing unusual like... Or had a mutants or things like that. But unusual size of thing.

Another interesting part about it is it's re-wilded and a lot of the natural habitat is taking over. Wildlife has moved back in, deer, wild animal, things else because of the human presence isn't there. And they seem to be doing pretty well. They're right out there, they're still there and they're not hanging right around the reactor in those areas.

But the areas, quite large, almost become like a nature reserve for many animals, some of which are in danger and not seen much in Europe. Where they've found their way there, since humans aren't there, they have a lot of animals have thrived in the Chernobyl extended area around them. People aren't allowed to go, except with special permit. Yeah, that's crazy.

And I can just see with all the terror and horror of that and everything that the people went through how that could just be such a magnet for energy. And again, part of me wants to say for negative energy, but you think about it, just everything they went through, I can see a lot of positive energy wanting to come through here. Like I mentioned before, of people coming to comfort. People that have passed coming to comfort, their family, comfort, their loved ones.

And with the city there that was close, the evacuations happened so quickly to get everybody else. Now that life just basically stopped, people weren't even packing up their stuff to go. Everybody just left because it was that dangerous. So it's literally a city frozen in time at the time when those evacuations hit.

Most people didn't even have time to go get possessions and belongings and were never allowed back in. And so much of that and so these documentaries can go out and it's very fascinating. It's literally a city that's kind of frozen in time for what was in 1986. Yeah, I remember when this happened.

The Secret Atomic Experiments and Corpses and their hauntings. The Project Sunshine was a top secret US research program in the 1950s that involved harvesting body parts, especially from infants and children's without family consent. And the goal was to study how radioactive isotopes like strommium-90s spread in human tissue after a nuclear fallout. The government did some secret testing on dead people, courses, children.

The program wasn't declassified until 1994 and families were horrified to learn that their loved ones remains had been used in atomic experiments. So these people didn't even know what their children had been taken there that died and went to be tested to see what different atomic things happened, what effect would have on it. So it's interesting. Hospitals in New York, Chicago and London were involved and many of these buildings are now report hauntings and labs in the works.

That doesn't surprise me. I think a lot of hospitals and works are haunted anyway, but to have these extra energy around the secrecy and people's children being subjected to things without their notification or knowledge that just seems to bring negative energy also when things happen without consent. Oh, yeah. And a lot of families, if they knew, they just put out a thing, hey, we need to do some testing.

And people are always donating to their bodies to science. You know, just ask for heaven's sake. I think there's a lot of people that would say, yeah, sure, we would love to help. So that makes me think it was a certain three-letter acronym.

Yep. Very possibly. So paranormal events include crying behind the walls, hospital beds moving on their own, and cold zones where autopsies were performed. Those are some of the kinds of things that happened in these areas that are paranormal.

When there's claim that she quit after seeing a child shadow on the X-ray machine, but this room was completely empty. So there wasn't anything there to throw a shadow and yet she saw a child shadow on that. Investigators conducting spirit box sessions in old research rooms reported, a voice saying, not yours to take. And I do think this gets back to that idea of permission and consent and approval.

Yeah. Like I said, I think it's like to say, hey, we need to do this. I think a lot of people would have volunteered. You know, volunteered, loved ones, volunteered themselves.

It went from the 1950s. Yeah, that's just wrong. And I was surprised to learn about this. I really was.

But after the bombings in Japan, I think a lot of people would love to have said, sure, he'll help in trying to figure out everything. So this episode, a little heavy because talking about the atomic bomb, I mean, that's not fun. I think the world at large really tries to avoid having that happen again. And I don't know that we fully understood exactly how it was going to go down.

A lot of people died horrifically and suffered because of just basically that science. And as we've talked about, nuclear fallout is supposed to fade with time, a long time. They're still dealing with stuff in Chernobyl. But spirits don't.

Spirits are always going to be there. So there's been many continents that's been in Japan, Russia, the United States, and we've talked about witnesses that have all described the same thing. They've seen burn figures, silent processions. Voices where no one lives.

We've discussed that maybe it's residual energy, echoes of trauma, which is kind of what residual energy is, or something darker, torments of spirits, or even evil spirits that have come in to feed off the macabre stuff that's going on. But one thing's for certain, bombs didn't just destroy bodies. They left ghosts. So the next time you hear footsteps in an empty room, ask yourself, is this just a Greeky floor, or is it someone who never got to stop walking?

And that is why we investigate the paranormal. It's an interesting subject. It really is. It makes me wonder, I wanted to go investigate the Mummies in the camera museum.

When I got there, I just had the feeling of don't. And there was, oh, and then in the catacombs. I also took ghost hunting equipment, and I just got the feeling of don't. And apparently investigators have investigated these sites that we talked about tonight.

But I just wonder, if I would get a don't, just leave us be, or are they the spirits there that want to talk, that want to say, hey, you know, they want to tell their story? Because those victims are going to be a lot more unrest than in the catacombs and the Mummies, I would think. All right. So if you haven't been to the Mystic Frog, jump on down there.

I did not, my July was so busy, I have not even had the moment to think, but I think I'm going to jump down to the Mystic Frog here. Can we hop on down there? Because it's a frog. I see what you did there.

And go see what they've got going on. Also, want to give a shout out to the Huey Shperforming Arts and Cultural Living Center. Down in Payson, we look forward to, I think we've got some time scheduled down there, not until we're going. We're looking at doing that.

We haven't confirmed that. We're interested in having this. Yes. So we hope to be back down there soon.

If you haven't had a chance to get down there and investigate there, it's quite haunted. We've had some pretty creepy stuff happen there. Watch for that because we are getting something in the works. We're going to have a few things going this fall, this spooky season.

We've got a number of events, including Dead Talks at libraries, events going on. It's going to be a hop in time from now until the end of October. Absolutely. If you're a patron, I'm going to have the events updated tonight.

I'm going to have to have to after we podcast, I'm going to sit down and update those. So by the time you hear this, they should be eliminated. I'll have everything that I know of in October because it is spooky season and spooky season. We start scheduling that early.

I think we started scheduling stuff in May. So watch for that. All right. So I'm going to rattle around in the junk drawer and see what's in there.

And it is a full unghostly confession that was broadcast live on TV. You ready for this? Ready. I could have ever heard a ghostly confession on TV.

No. Me neither. So this was back in the 1980s. There's a British TV show called Strange, but True.

And it featured a paranormal segment about haunted council house in Southfield, England. And this was just your typical haunting. It had all the classic stuff. It had flying objects, weird smells, they reported furniture moving on its own.

How about the strangest thing was the ghost claimed his name was Fred. And he claimed that he murdered a woman and buried her under floorboards. And this wasn't people. This was the ghost that said this apparently.

So naturally the TV crew said, hey, let's film a science. Because there's nothing that says good decision making, like angry and a potential ghost murderer with cameras, right? Let's set up some cameras and see if we can fish off a little bit more. So anyway, they brought in medium.

And during the seance, Fred supposedly spoke through this medium and confirmed the murder and even gave a first name for the victim. So viewers are watching this. They're horrified. Investigators even took it seriously for just a minute.

But there was nobody ever found and the house was clean. They couldn't find anything. So here's the best part. A week later, a local psychic group claimed Fred was fake.

They said he was actually a spiritual messing with investigators just because he could. So we've got human trolls that hop on the Facebook and post, but you know, you get no trolls. I just hop on and say outlandish stuff just to get people home and do the call. Apparently, this is a spiritual.

It wasn't a murder. He just wanted some screen time. So is it like other internet trolls? Exactly.

Exactly. So is it a spiritual? Are there spirituals? I think they're spirituals, honestly, because I've run into a few.

So basically, summary, there's a ghost that went on TV. He pretended to confess a crime. He got investigated. And then he got outed as a troll, the spirit troll with a flair for drama.

So moral of the story, don't believe everything in ghosts. You know, when we get into equipment, Mel wasn't able to be on tonight. We get into equipment and we've got our ITS machines and they'll spit out words. And sometimes they just spit out words that's going to be reading energy and not all energy out there as spiritual energy.

Don't get too excited until you've kind of debunked it. You know, and how do you debunk that? There's a lot of ways. One of them is the relevancy of when the words come out.

Is it relevant to what you're saying? Is it in a timely manner? That's one thing to watch for when you're speaking with those kind of entities. Also, if you're using some other kind, maybe you're not using an ITC, maybe you're using Dazzi, but you're using an EMF meter.

Most of us have stopped using ghost meter pros or ghost meters because we get the impression that they might be pre-programmed to do stuff. But always, always ask several questions. Ask the same question a couple of different ways to see if you get the same answer. Don't get too excited.

A lot of times with the ITC machines, we will think about those as just a way to think of questions to ask. When it really gets exciting is when what you're saying and what the spirits are answering to the box, just line up perfectly. But no matter what kind of device you use, check it, double check it. Don't automatically assume it's always a spirit because it might not always be.

Also, on the rare times that we've talked to what we believe are elementals, they're all over the place. You can usually tell the difference between a type 3 or a demonic entity and a human spirit, but elementals, at least for me, other people might perceive that differently, but for me, they're very erratic. The best way for me to describe it, and this is really kind of a broad thing, so take it with a grain of salt. For me, a human spirit usually won't tell the truth, most of the time.

Negative spirit and evil spirit, type 3, will usually lie most of the time. Right, I'll deceive you. I'll try to deceive you. And if the thing happens, they'll be, the drink gets attacked.

Yes, absolutely. But for me, elementals, they're just, they lie and then they tell the truth. They're just, they're like peeps, the poltergeist from Harry Potter, they just like to make it with you. So, just be careful when you start getting messages from the spirit world because you just never get it.

So our team has had two really cool investigations recently, and we're not going to discuss them tonight. Why would you think we're not discussing them? We're not a customer there. Exactly, no one on the show was there.

Well, the one I wanted to be there because it's on my bucket list to investigate. Well, we can talk about them briefly, overview, as far as where they are and we'll give some cool information about them because we're planning to have investigations of both of them in the near future. Yes. One of which is confirmed, the other one is one that we're working on.

Yes. So, the first one is, we were actually invited out as groups of investigators as kind of a meet and greet and mingle with your peers kind of thing. And it was fun. I was able to speak with most of the people there.

I think there was one couple. All I can remember is that as a man and a woman and the lady had long, longed curly hair. I just never got around to, not for any particular reason. Just never made a dron of talk to that about everybody else.

Everyone was just so nice and we're all there for the same reason, right, to investigate ghosts. Chad and I actually had to go home to get packed up and ready to leave early the next morning for our trip so we didn't stay for the investigation but we were there for the food because we wanted to stay, we just couldn't. And cookies. No, no.

And drinks was good. So, Chad and I actually investigated there with WISPS back before we had events, paranormal services. And it was a good investigation. It was a good hunt but we remembered it as being a lot smaller of a space than we had remembered.

Not smaller because the space is huge and massive. But I wasn't aware of places that we could go where there wouldn't just be massive contamination when you bring in 20 or 30 people so there'd be no evidence or anything else because it's such a big haul. We just remember the big open space but after being there we're like oh no this actually will work for the kind of investigations that we do so we are planning to. There are a number of really cool green rooms one where Marilyn Manson wanted everything in the room completely black except for the mirrors and things so they've got sound happening black cloth completely in the Marilyn Manson green room and they've left it that way they could have taken it down but they left it that way.

There's other green rooms that are separate that can house different investigations. There's an area where there's an equipment room area and then next to it and this one was really interesting. There's another green room I think would be on the north side of the building where when you open the door there's no like air conditioning or venting going in but there's air pressure and the air that comes out is cooler than the other air around. They talked about that one and that one was very interesting.

That one probably I don't know 15 feet by 15 feet a pretty good sized room a green room where investigations can be held so there were a number of unique spaces that we'll be able to do investigations and so I was really excited about that. The guy that runs the place gave tours of it they've got some really interesting places up on the second level by the bar and there's some VIP areas and additional green rooms up there which will be able to investigate and what the cool things is they have an original staircase from the hotel Utah that goes down from the second floor to the main ballroom floor and it's a beautiful staircase. It looks like something out of the Titanic. It was built at the end of the 19th century early, very early 20s.

It's beautiful. And just some of the history if you've never been to Salter it's just out in the boonies. There's a major road next to it. It's not completely isolated.

There's not a lot of restaurants around it. It's just kind of there. In order to be there to be at Salter it has to be kind of your destination. You don't just happen to stop there.

And this version is the third version of Salter. The person was built in like the 18, 70s, 80s. There was a train hub that went out from Salt Lake there and it was a big deal at the time. It burned down I think about 1926 and then it was rebuilt in 1927 for a second version and it lasted for a while and then was shut down and it burnt down I think in the 1970s and then they built this third version which is about a mile away from where the other two were but very, very close and that was built in the 80s.

And they've hosted lots of bands and lots of things going on there. It's a very neat and haunted venue and I think it goes to adventures, went out and has done an investigation there that's well documented. A lot of different activity. Just the energy that's there from the different concerts that they've had out there and because it's out in the boonies they've found a lot of bodies that have been dumped there.

Fun fun I cut. I was going to say they were saying it's the best place to dump bodies between Salt Lake and Reno. Right and there's Quick Sand out there and there's a fellow that actually wandered out there and there's a lot of exposure to Quick Sand because no one knew he was out there. And I...

It didn't pull him completely under but he was stuck in it and he couldn't get out. Yeah so he died of the elements but you know when I was and I don't mean to make light of his death because that's terrible but I remember being little watching cartoons and movies. There was always Quick Sand. You know it was just a given.

You know in movies and cartoons there's going to be Quick Sand and I remember being little and there's even a meme that floats around about this that I saw and I was like yes. When I was little growing up I always thought Quick Sand was going to be a bigger deal than it is. Something to worry about something bigger to worry about than you really need to. Yeah you know thinking oh my goodness I go about my daily little life I need to watch for Quick Sand.

And so when I said oh there's Quick Sand to I thought oh it really exists well. Not to mention the massive lake that's there as well. Yes so a lot of water. The little energy from the lake.

Yeah and then another thing they said was because it's the Salt Lake and there's a lot of salt out there folks. You know the salt surrounding this building actually kind of keeps it's free energy contained. You know a lot of them. Kids there are kind of stays there.

Yeah so we are going to be going there eventually. So Drake was that the one on your bucket list? Yes sir. Yes well we will be going there so you need to make sure you.

Come out for that. We'll chat with you so that you know we know when you'll be out and try to make it easier for you. Yeah because that's a four and a half hour drive. Yeah it's not really close to you.

Yes but Moon and Aurora, Kristi and Whiskey were able to investigate. So we will get them on the show and chat about them. And Moon and Aurora they haven't left us they just come to me. And then the next one is actually our regular investigation.

We try to have one of them every six weeks. July gets a little crazy because Utah has two major holidays. We've got the 4th of July and the 24th of July and the 24th of July. And then Chad and I wrote town and I was out of town and it just didn't line up to have one in July.

So we are planning on going to and I was screwing the game up this up. So Chad you're going to have to tell us the name of this. It is the stagecoach Inn which is a Utah State Park and the Camp Floyd Cemetery. And there's a historic building out there and the Camp Floyd Commissary.

So there's an old school the stagecoach Inn's got a bullet hole in it from something. From shotgun. From shotgun. From shotgun.

Mark Twain was out there. It was on the Pony Express route. So he had the Pony Express going through there. That's the whole trip station out there.

Yeah at that one point Camp Floyd was the largest military installation in the United States. They were out here for the Mormon War to make sure that the Mormon stayed. We didn't get out of hand. Didn't get out of hand.

This was just shortly before the Civil War. Yeah I pointed with the largest military installation in the United States. Like my third great grandmother was like a cookout there. She was one of the pioneers that came in early lived out in Lee Huyman.

She would come into Camp Floyd area and they would do a lot of work and cooking and cleaning and getting things ready at the camp. It was a huge big installation. I think at one time they said that they had the most. I don't know if I'm getting this mixed up with Fort Douglas.

But I think they said that Camp Floyd was one of the largest military installations in the United States at that time. Yeah that was a good point. Okay. Yeah it was enormous.

I think they said there was like 10,000 soldiers stationed there. So we've got the Camp Floyd Military Cemetery that's out there. Camp Floyd Commissary Military Museum. It's a smaller building but it's the only remaining building from the pre Civil War Army camp itself.

There's the historic stagecoach in which was to stop on the Poney Press Station and it's on route to the East and Sacramento, California and Mark Twain had won. And there's the district pool which was built in 1898. Signed by Richard C. Watkins and he's the same person who designed the Beating School in Payson.

We're going to talk about that in a bit. So I guess we have three investigations to talk about. The third one is Batinite. Our group investigated Batinite just as our group kind of as a slash birthday get together for Moon because they're birthday.

And Shad and I were planning to go to that but our flight got bumped 11 hours. And so instead of investigating Batinite we got to go explore Portland Oregon which we've never been to Oregon before so that was kind of pretty fun stuff to do. So we are going to be going to Batinite in October and to do our advanced terra normal investigation. But as far as what happened last night, again we're going to have to wait until now and then Aurora come back to tell us how that happened.

Because I haven't even talked to anybody in the group since I told them we weren't going to be there. I texted him from Portland and said, fun fact, we're still in Portland, we're not going to be there. The Batinite investigation will be October 11th. That's a Saturday night.

We've already got that one booked and we're locked and loaded on that. We don't have it up on the event bright site yet but it is locked and loaded as is our other event. Did we tell them about the new event we're just going to do? Can't play.

Yeah, we just told them that, right? Yeah, we just told them that I don't think you said a date yet. Friday is Friday, August 29th at Hanford State Park, Stagecoach Inn and the District Bull. And it's going to be a lot of fun from 830 until midnight.

We're looking forward to that. In fact, we got that one confirmed when we were in Hawaii. We were driving the gun phone call. It's not looking forward to it.

If you're a patron, you've got two investigations coming up this month with us and if you're not, you only have one. Isn't that sad? Well, you should become a patron. All right, well, I have had fun talking about a little bit of everything tonight.

We've talked about shadows born of fire. Got that from chat GPT just so you know. You think about it, though, the atomic bombs that, you know, it's fire. You see the mushroom cloud.

We had echoes in the atomic age and little shadows are kind of drifting through time. And when we pass, the dead don't always rest. That's why we do what we do. And sometimes people get lost in history.

And I think through life, that's what we try not to do. We don't want to be forgotten. No one wants to be forgotten. So as you're out investigating, listen close because there's spirits out there that are trying to tell us something they want us to know about their past.

So keep your EMF meters charged. If you have a fallout shelter, keep it stopped. And keep it creepy, my friends. We'll have a good night.

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