Australia's spy chief Mike Burgess

Australia's top spy sits down for a candid conversation with Hamish and Geraldine about the modern art of spycraft and the current threats - foreign and domestic - facing Australia.Guest: Mike Burgess - Director-General of Security in charge of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation.Recommendations:Geraldine: The Rest is Politics: Leading - The new President of SyriaHamish: There's a term for what Trump and Musk are doing - Anne ApplebaumGet in touch:  We'd love to hear from you! Email us at [email protected]