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EPISODE · Jun 15, 2026 · 37 MIN

AUTISTIC Viewpoints Episode 12: Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough

from We chose play from Affect Autism · host Daria Brown

⁠AUTISTIC Viewpoints⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a podcast hosted by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Turrell Burgess⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Daria Brown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. On Episode 12, "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough," Turrell and Daria cover Michael Jackson: the new movie, the songs, the fandom, his intersection with DIRFloortime (what?!) and a few more surprises! Enjoy our special episode on the occasions of AUTISTIC Pride (June 18) and JUNETEENTH (June 19)! We hope you like it as much as we enjoyed making it!⁠Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://affectautism.com/autistic-viewpoints/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Timestamps:0:14 Introduction1:56 Turrell's first memories of hearing Michael Jackson2:27 Daria's first memories of hearing Michael Jackson3:07 The Jackson 53:45 Why the beginning of the movie Michael made Daria so emotional for more than one reason5:50 Turrell's reflections on the movie Michael7:05 Turrell's early experiences listening to Michael Jackson growing up7:29 Daria's real-time experiences of listening to Michael Jackson growing up8:28 The album OFF THE WALL: our impressions and memories9:45 The album THRILLER: our impressions, including from the movie, Michael, and our memories11:57 Thriller in the movie, Michael12:17 Turrell's favourite songs from Thriller12:40 Daria's favourite songs from Thriller 13:18 MOTOWN 25 and the movie14:13 The album BAD: our impressions and memories15:04 * AUTISTIC Pride tribute *15:38 Turrell's Fun Fact and Daria's reflections on Bad's impact16:23 The album DANGEROUS: our impressions and memories18:10 Daria's concert book from the Victory Tour21:55 Concert talk22:50 History and Invincible and the Michael Jackson Experience video game23:46 Memories of Michael Jackson's death24:32 The movie's foreshadowing25:23 What the fans wanted27:43 Jaafar!28:16 The movie's success28:28 Michael Jackson Cancun show29:52 * JUNETEENTH tribute *31:07 Canadian connection!31:46 DIRFloortime connection!33:25 ICDL connection!34:50 * Turrell's SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT! *36:27 Closing remarksResources:Wylie Draper: https://www.instagram.com/p/DSgOQKskT5x/ and https://www.instagram.com/p/DW7tFjija-o/* Thank you to Hungarian recording artist ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Post Analog Disorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the intro/outro music permission: ⁠⁠⁠https://postanalogdisorder.bandcamp.com/album/still-i-rise

⁠AUTISTIC Viewpoints⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a podcast hosted by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Turrell Burgess⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Daria Brown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. On Episode 12, "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough," Turrell and Daria cover Michael Jackson: the new movie, the songs, the fandom, his intersection with DIRFloortime (what?!) and a few more surprises! Enjoy our special episode on the occasions of AUTISTIC Pride (June 18) and JUNETEENTH (June 19)! We hope you like it as much as we enjoyed making it!⁠Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://affectautism.com/autistic-viewpoints/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Timestamps:0:14 Introduction1:56 Turrell's first memories of hearing Michael Jackson2:27 Daria's first memories of hearing Michael Jackson3:07 The Jackson 53:45 Why the beginning of the movie Michael made Daria so emotional for more than one reason5:50 Turrell's reflections on the movie Michael7:05 Turrell's early experiences listening to Michael Jackson growing up7:29 Daria's real-time experiences of listening to Michael Jackson growing up8:28 The album OFF THE WALL: our impressions and memories9:45 The album THRILLER: our impressions, including from the movie, Michael, and our memories11:57 Thriller in the movie, Michael12:17 Turrell's favourite songs from Thriller12:40 Daria's favourite songs from Thriller 13:18 MOTOWN 25 and the movie14:13 The album BAD: our impressions and memories15:04 * AUTISTIC Pride tribute *15:38 Turrell's Fun Fact and Daria's reflections on Bad's impact16:23 The album DANGEROUS: our impressions and memories18:10 Daria's concert book from the Victory Tour21:55 Concert talk22:50 History and Invincible and the Michael Jackson Experience video game23:46 Memories of Michael Jackson's death24:32 The movie's foreshadowing25:23 What the fans wanted27:43 Jaafar!28:16 The movie's success28:28 Michael Jackson Cancun show29:52 * JUNETEENTH tribute *31:07 Canadian connection!31:46 DIRFloortime connection!33:25 ICDL connection!34:50 * Turrell's SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT! *36:27 Closing remarksResources:Wylie Draper: https://www.instagram.com/p/DSgOQKskT5x/ and https://www.instagram.com/p/DW7tFjija-o/* Thank you to Hungarian recording artist ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Post Analog Disorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for the intro/outro music permission: ⁠⁠⁠https://postanalogdisorder.bandcamp.com/album/still-i-rise

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⁠AUTISTIC Viewpoints⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a podcast hosted by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Turrell Burgess⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Daria Brown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. On Episode 12, "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough," Turrell and Daria cover Michael Jackson: the new movie, the songs, the fandom, his intersection...

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